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This is the main method I'm thinking of and using an exit bag to make sure I pass out quickly while hanging because the stories of hanging without passing out for half an hour scare me.
I know besides firearms hanging is the most common and lethal method to CTB but we discuss so much all the things that could go wrong (and rightly so) that I'd like to hear about things going right. I want to be more optimistic about this working. I've got the rope, I've got a beam in the garage, I've got 8hrs alone time during the day. I'm not planning on doing it immediately but I'd like to hear more about how people did it right rather than wrong. I'd like a little less stress :)
 
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After I left school this really nice, quiet girl that was in my class hung herself in the local woods from a tree a few months after we left. We were in different friend groups but I always used to talk to her in the mornings when we first got into class. Apparently she had a really shitty home life she hid from everyone, I wish I would've known how she felt.

Someone who was the same age as my oldest sibling hung themselves from a bridge too a few years before that. Idk any of the details besides they were both full suspension hangings but you wanted "success" stories and they both died.
Idk of anyone personally who has failed.

I'm sorry you feel that this is your only option. I hope things get better for you and if not then I hope you find the peace you're looking for.
 
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I do think this is a very reliable method if you are not interrupted- if a person has a house or building to themselves so that no one will hear them it is extremely likely to work. In a building with others how much noise it makes is a variable that a person can't be sure about, but this is the main cause of it not working- someone hears noise and they end up getting pulled down. As I mentioned on another post, the time to unconsciousness varies a lot based on things I have read- with a rope that slides easiily and a simple noose or slipknot a lot of people say it will get tighter faster than a hangman's noose. A hangman's noose is possibly a more reliable knot but may take longer to tighten up enough. The is one of my top two methods, along with sn. I'm scared to try either but eventually I think I will, too many things have gone wrong. I just keep trying to learn more to make an attempt more likely to work, plus I am still trying to get the whole kit for sn together. If a person is not interrupted and what the rope is tied to doesn't give way, and the rope doesn't break. it seems almost certain to work. Getting the knot and rope the best you can can make it go faster. I still don't fully understand why the carotid close off sometimes and not others.
 
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I do think this is a very reliable method if you are not interrupted- if a person has a house or building to themselves so that no one will hear them it is extremely likely to work. In a building with others how much noise it makes is a variable that a person can't be sure about, but this is the main cause of it not working- someone hears noise and they end up getting pulled down. As I mentioned on another post, the time to unconsciousness varies a lot based on things I have read- with a rope that slides easiily and a simple noose or slipknot a lot of people say it will get tighter faster than a hangman's noose. A hangman's noose is possibly a more reliable knot but may take longer to tighten up enough. The is one of my top two methods, along with sn. I'm scared to try either but eventually I think I will, too many things have gone wrong. I just keep trying to learn more to make an attempt more likely to work, plus I am still trying to get the whole kit for sn together. If a person is not interrupted and what the rope is tied to doesn't give way, and the rope doesn't break. it seems almost certain to work. Getting the knot and rope the best you can can make it go faster. I still don't fully understand why the carotid close off sometimes and not others.
The reason for the two different knots is that there's two different ways to do full suspension- long drop, or short/no drop, and they require different knots.

The hangman's noose is for long drop, and it is designed to kill via breaking the neck. It does not tighten very quickly so is inefficient at strangulation, and it isn't suitable for short/no drop. This is traditionally how executions were carried out, and is a very quick death, though it's quite difficult to do on your own and would be painful if you didn't get it right.

The more common and easy method is with no drop, just full suspension- for example standing on a chair, putting a noose over your neck, and kicking the chair away. This kills via strangulation, cutting off the blood supply to the brain, and so you need a knot that tightens easily such as a simple cinch noose. The hangman's noose is not suitable for this method. It should lead to unconsciousness within 15-20s (videos I've seen seem to verify this), and during this time the only pain that is felt is that of the pressure of the rope on your neck, you shouldn't feel air hunger so long as you can hold your breath for 20s.

People that take too long to fall unconscious were likely using the wrong type of knot or rope for their method, ie one that doesn't tighten very well. Also helps to put the knot at the back so there's definitely pressure on the front of the neck
 
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The reason for the two different knots is that there's two different ways to do full suspension- long drop, or short/no drop, and they require different knots.

The hangman's noose is for long drop, and it is designed to kill via breaking the neck. It does not tighten very quickly so is inefficient at strangulation, and it isn't suitable for short/no drop. This is traditionally how executions were carried out, and is a very quick death, though it's quite difficult to do on your own and would be painful if you didn't get it right.

The more common and easy method is with no drop, just full suspension- for example standing on a chair, putting a noose over your neck, and kicking the chair away. This kills via strangulation, cutting off the blood supply to the brain, and so you need a knot that tightens easily such as a simple cinch noose. The hangman's noose is not suitable for this method. It should lead to unconsciousness within 15-20s (videos I've seen seem to verify this), and during this time the only pain that is felt is that of the pressure of the rope on your neck, you shouldn't feel air hunger so long as you can hold your breath for 20s.

People that take too long to fall unconscious were likely using the wrong type of knot or rope for their method, ie one that doesn't tighten very well. Also helps to put the knot at the back so there's definitely pressure on the front of the neck
How is it possible to avoid pressing on the trachea? When I put the rope high on my neck (not attached to anchor point) and tighten it even a bit I feel discomfort on the front on my hyoid bone and I feel when hanging the windpipe is just going to be crushed and it will be very painful. That's why I want the exit bag to knock myself out so I don't have to feel it.
 
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How is it possible to avoid pressing on the trachea? When I put the rope high on my neck (not attached to anchor point) and tighten it even a bit I feel discomfort on the front on my hyoid bone and I feel when hanging the windpipe is just going to be crushed and it will be very painful. That's why I want the exit bag to knock myself out so I don't have to feel it.
I'm not aware of any ways to get around this I'm afraid, especially full suspension will definitely crush the windpipe. Some people may be more sensitive to this than others (eg I can tighten a rope around my neck quite tight without it being that uncomfortable, I think it's just luck)
 
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I'm not aware of any ways to get around this I'm afraid, especially full suspension will definitely crush the windpipe. Some people may be more sensitive to this than others (eg I can tighten a rope around my neck quite tight without it being that uncomfortable, I think it's just luck)
With many methods the trade off is- is it worth it to feel more intense pain- and even possibly terror, to be honest- over a shorter period of time- or a less intense but still very bad pain over many years. How much pain and possibly terror would a person tolerate over how long to end the pain of depression in this world forever- it's a tough question, and I definitely support any efforts to less pain involved in ctb.
 

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