Do you believe in true love?

[not_a_robot]

In order to get "true love", you need to remove the built-in instincts, sexual desire and the desire to gain something from someone. True love should not be selfish, it is disinterested (I mean not only money and things), it does not require anything from anyone.

It is necessary to exclude the possibility of sex - then it is something more than instincts. Platonic love between AI and human for example (such as those weirdos who married a hologram).

It turns me on when you talk about marrying holograms.

 

[marcusuk63]

this is modern day true love , you can just tell by the look on her 24 year old face how much she loves her 82 year billionaire husband lol

 

[Severen]

In order to get "true love", you need to remove the built-in instincts, sexual desire and the desire to gain something from someone. True love should not be selfish, it is disinterested (I mean not only money and things), it does not require anything from anyone.

It is necessary to exclude the possibility of sex - then it is something more than instincts. Platonic love between AI and human for example (such as those weirdos who married a hologram).

Yes or for example, how Alexander The Great's men were in love with him, even though they were heterosexual males(well at least a large percentage of them because the ancient Greeks tolerated homosexuals and bisexuals so I'm sure there were homosexual and bisexual men in his army as well).

 

[not_a_robot]

Ugh. Every hooker has met this trick who prattles on about love, and he always turns out to be a nasty freeloading asshole.

 

[Paisley]

it's the only reason i'm still here

 

[Severen]

Ugh. Every hooker has met this trick who prattles on about love, and he always turns out to be a nasty freeloading asshole.

It's an effective tool to use to manipulate people who feel unloved in life.

 

[not_a_robot]

Yes or for example, how Alexander The Great's men were in love with him, even though they were heterosexual males(well at least a large percentage of them because the ancient Greeks tolerated homosexuals and bisexuals so I'm sure there were homosexual and bisexual men in his army as well).

Homosexuality was not just tolerated. Junior soldiers were expected to sexually service anyone who outranked them without complaint. It was integral to Greek and Spartan military culture.

 

[Severen]

Homosexuality was not just tolerated. Junior soldiers were expected to sexually service anyone who outranked them without complaint. It was integral to Greek and Spartan military culture.

I thought only the Spartans were like that. Because they spent so much time training, they didn't have time to be around women. And then when they saw women for the first time in their lives so they could marry and have children, they were freaked out. And sometimes, Spartan women would have to dress up like warriors to turn on their husbands. LOL

 

[inconsequential]

Neurochemistry and pheromones are a large part of what humans call "love".

I believe that you can care for someone deeply, I believe that humans can love, but I do not believe in the concept of "true love".

The closest thing to it that I can think of is meeting someone in this life that you were close to in a previous incarnation.

 

[not_a_robot]

I thought only the Spartans were like that. Because they spent so much time training, they didn't have time to be around women. And then when they saw women for the first time in their lives so they could marry and have children, they were freaked out. And sometimes, Spartan women would have to dress up like warriors to turn on their husbands. LOL

Yep. Spartans invented pegging.
Women are much less frightening to men when we wear a phallus. ;)

 

[Severen]

Yep. Spartans invented pegging.
Women are much less frightening to men when we wear a phallus. ;)

All the other Greeks thought the Spartans were very eccentric. It's amusing that when the movie 300 came out, all the Americans were cheering for the Spartans when in reality, American culture is similar to the Persian culture back then. Racism, strikes again. And the movie made the Persians look like the opposite of how they actually were... Americans would see the ancient Greeks as freaks if they studied history.

 

[Ambie]

I don't think I've ever experienced "love". It's hard to imagine what that would even be like.

 

[Mort]

My self i don't believe in true love any more in fact i go as far to say its a dangerous emotion. It makes you weak and vulnerable and taken advantage of i know. So no more of that sloppy stuff never ever going to fall in love ever again spend the rest of my life alone iys for the best.

 

[Severen]

My self i don't believe in true love any more in fact i go as far to say its a dangerous emotion. It makes you weak and vulnerable and taken advantage of i know. So no more of that sloppy stuff never ever going to fall in love ever again spend the rest of my life alone iys for the best.

Any kind of love is bad for you. True love and lust. It's not much different than blindfolding yourself.

this is modern day true love , you can just tell by the look on her 24 year old face how much she loves her 82 year billionaire husband lol

I don't have a problem with relationships like that as long as they are honest and tell the everyone, it is simply nothing more than a business deal made between two people. But when it hides behind the curtain of love, then I'm disgusted by the level of deception and the insult to my intelligence.

 

[not_a_robot]

I don't think I've ever experienced "love". It's hard to imagine what that would even be like.

If you've ever had a severe psychotic episode with delusions of grandeur, it's like that, but usually with sex included.

 

[RM5998]

Ugh. Every hooker has met this trick who prattles on about love, and he always turns out to be a nasty freeloading asshole.

Hey, not fair, Moulin Rouge is great. It does actually understand that the 'true love' that Christian (Ewan McGregor's character) believes in is a fantasy.

EDIT:

Spoiler: Reservations

Yeah, Christian is an asshole who flips out on Satine after she breaks up with him, but you could argue that he gets punished for them through Satine's death (which is itself problematic for the objectification it implies). Yeah, the movie has problems - but it's not entirely devoid of quality or insight.

 

[Slenderman]

I think the soul mate thing is all bullshit, and like look at the shit people call love these days. I just can't

 

[Alan James]

Is this true love? I meant this guy:

The man who married a hologram - https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/28/health/rise-of-digisexuals-intl/index.html

Akihiko Kondo doesn't have the air of a rebel. This year, however, the bespectacled school administrator bucked conventional norms. He married a hologram.
Kondo's November wedding to cyber celebrity Hatsune Miku -- which is not legally recognized - provoked mixed reactions in Japan and abroad. Some were dumbfounded by his choice of a three-dimensional laser image over a human. Others congratulated him.

But the 35-year-old, whose spartan home on the outskirts of Tokyo is dotted with plush Miku dolls and paraphernalia, doesn't care what others think. He simply did what made him happy. "Society pressures you to follow a certain formula for love, but it might not make you happy," Kondo told CNN. "I want people to be able to figure out what works for them."

 

[Severen]

Is this true love? I meant this guy:

The man who married a hologram - https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/28/health/rise-of-digisexuals-intl/index.html

Akihiko Kondo doesn't have the air of a rebel. This year, however, the bespectacled school administrator bucked conventional norms. He married a hologram.
Kondo's November wedding to cyber celebrity Hatsune Miku -- which is not legally recognized - provoked mixed reactions in Japan and abroad. Some were dumbfounded by his choice of a three-dimensional laser image over a human. Others congratulated him.

But the 35-year-old, whose spartan home on the outskirts of Tokyo is dotted with plush Miku dolls and paraphernalia, doesn't care what others think. He simply did what made him happy. "Society pressures you to follow a certain formula for love, but it might not make you happy," Kondo told CNN. "I want people to be able to figure out what works for them."

More like, the dude has no other options, I think... Japanese culture is really good at isolating people...

 

[not_a_robot]

Hey, not fair, Moulin Rouge is great. It does actually understand that the 'true love' that Christian (Ewan McGregor's character) believes in is a fantasy.

lol ok. I'm just saying, tricks who do that creepy "love" shit are so common in the sex industry that they are a stereotype.
Spoiler Alert: they never are really in love, they are just mean, cheap assholes.

Is this true love? I meant this guy:

The man who married a hologram - https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/28/health/rise-of-digisexuals-intl/index.html

Akihiko Kondo doesn't have the air of a rebel. This year, however, the bespectacled school administrator bucked conventional norms. He married a hologram.
Kondo's November wedding to cyber celebrity Hatsune Miku -- which is not legally recognized - provoked mixed reactions in Japan and abroad. Some were dumbfounded by his choice of a three-dimensional laser image over a human. Others congratulated him.

But the 35-year-old, whose spartan home on the outskirts of Tokyo is dotted with plush Miku dolls and paraphernalia, doesn't care what others think. He simply did what made him happy. "Society pressures you to follow a certain formula for love, but it might not make you happy," Kondo told CNN. "I want people to be able to figure out what works for them."

I say yes. He is at least as close to true love as anyone in a relationship with another person. Projecting love onto an object is a form of self-love, which I consider the only true love.

 

[Alan James]

An example of "true love" (or what looks like it) in a movie or video game (I just don't know examples from reality, therefore only such examples) is like a Joi and "K" from "Blade Runner 2049" or Adam Jensen and Eliza from "Deus Ex".

 

[Severen]

An example of "true love" (or what looks like it) in a movie or video game (I just don't know examples from reality, therefore only such examples) is like a Joi and "K" from "Blade Runner 2049" or Adam Jensen and Eliza from "Deus Ex".

Here is a good example too. That kid is not even his son but his nephew.


Another one. Conan's best friend tracks him down and rescues him.


Another one. Conan's mother was willing to die for her dead husband and son. She only put her sword down because the man in front of her is a sorcerer who used one of his powers on her.


Another one. Mark Antony truly loved Cleopatra.


Trinity also showed true love to Neo later in the Matrix series.

 

[RM5998]

An example of "true love" (or what looks like it) in a movie or video game (I just don't know examples from reality, therefore only such examples) is like a Joi and "K" from "Blade Runner 2049" or Adam Jensen and Eliza from "Deus Ex".

Notably, the first is a pairing of a hologram and an android, who are both aware of their artificiality.

 

[Alan James]

Notably, the first is a pairing of a hologram and an android, who are both aware of their artificiality.

And the second example from the video game is between the augmented man and the enemy AI (which also existed only in the form of a hologram) created by the illuminati for manipulation. This AI was the enemy and was one of those who almost killed (provided technical support to mercenaries) Adam Jensen (this is the main character you are playing for).

But for some reason, Eliza decides to rebel against the Illuminati and the rest of the elite and helps Jensen. Although he knows that this will probably lead to the fact that she will be erased and rolled back to a more earlier version. This is illogical as the AI himself thinks and it is not clear why she does it: it makes sense as a kind of "Turing Test", it can be considered the first true AI because it is the first AI capable of such feelings.

 

[not_a_robot]

An example of "true love" (or what looks like it) in a movie or video game (I just don't know examples from reality, therefore only such examples) is like a Joi and "K" from "Blade Runner 2049" or Adam Jensen and Eliza from "Deus Ex".

or me and pot and my vibrator.

 

[RM5998]

or me and pot and my vibrator.

Evidently, your signature isn't for show, is it?

 

[not_a_robot]

Evidently, your signature isn't for show, is it?

lol I forgot what my signature is.

 

[aquila]

I really want to believe that, even though I don't think anyone could ever truly love me. The thought that I might find my soulmate gives me some hope about the future, but usually it only feels like a lie that I'm telling myself

 

[been_there]

Love exists out there, and can be wonderful. Buuuuut it takes luck and effort and isn't for everyone.

 

[Divine Trinity]

No. Or rather I don't believe in the popular romanticised notion of love. It's either lust, dependancy, convenience, or a compulsive obssession. Nothing "magical" or mysterious about it.