Do you believe in a benevolent loving God?

[alienatedmom9999]

If so, why doesn't (s)he listen when I beg him/her to end me?

 

[All Things Must Pass]

Of course not. If one exist though, maybe they haven't killed you because they're not capable of listening to you (so not omniscient) or not capable of killing you (not omnipotent).

 

[filthyrottendirty]

If so, why doesn't (s)he listen when I beg him/her to end me?

Because God isn't the type to kill people just because they ask to be killed. Instead the Bible says if we pray to Him and ask for strength to deal with whatever were going through He will grant us it. The Bible also says God does not test us with more than we can bear. Think of everything in this life as test.


Romans 8:35
35 Can anything ever separate us from Christ's love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36 (As the Scriptures say, "For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep."[a]) 37 No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.

38 And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God's love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God's love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

Because God isn't the type to kill people just because they ask to be killed. Instead the Bible says...

Is there proof anything the bible says is true?

 

[SuicidalAgain]

All I know is it doesn't make sense how religious people paint a picture of an all loving god, love thy neighbour and whatnot, but if you look closely that's not quite the case when they condemn gays to hell and people who commit suicide to an eternity of suffering.

Gay people don't choose to be gay like so many people seem to believe. The choice is "will I be true to myself or pretend I'm straight"? And even if being gay was a choice, what makes it so wrong? How is anyone's sexual and romantic life anybody's business if it's not hurting anyone? Why would it be a sin in the eyes of a benevolent god?

If there was a god and he was benevolent, why would he not intervene and make live bearable for us? Instead all we get is sucky relatives, shitty medical care, absent friends... A society that is simply not made for vulnerable people.

Religion was made by humans to control humans with fear of hell and promises of paradise to those who follow it.

We're in hell already.

 

[alienatedmom9999]

We're in hell already.

Yes. As someone who has spent a lifetime denying the power of emotions, I, regrettably have to admit that physical suffering (IMO) doesn't even begin to company to the agony of emotional suffering. I have always been in hell, and the only end to it that I see is to ctb.

 

[motel rooms]

God does not test us with more than we can bear.

I'm sorry you're suicidal, but shame on you for repeating that heartless Christian cliché. Where was your benevolent God when I was 5 & begging Him to make my father stop raping me? Are you aware that there are people in this world who rape, torture & kill children?

 

[AndromedaZ]

Yes, but not the usual one. I'm a Satanist. I don't ask him to end my life. I ask him for the strength I will need to do it myself. It's a very different relationship than Christians have with their god. I plan to ask Euronymous for safe passage out of this world and into the next, as that's what he does, guides souls, but Satan doesn't work like that. My gods are not here to grant wishes, but to give strength and wisdom.

 

[everydayiloveyou]

I am religious and believe that God is benevolent and all-loving. I'm also gay. I believe that suicidal people will go to Heaven, barring the obvious exceptions like school shooters. God is all-knowing, He will not punish you since He knows exactly why you made your decision, and that you were in pain.

My personal interpretation is that because God is all-loving, he's given us free will. Anything that He has the direct power to influence, He does His best to, but sometimes what is best for one person results in another person's suffering. e.g. a slumlord wishing to be rich and successful, so God gives them the luck to land cheap properties. But they misuse that gift, and instead they don't maintain their property and run eviction scams on the tenants.

This ties into free will. We are free to have selfish desires and ask for selfish things from God. It's our responsibility to became more loving and understanding so that our wishes don't negatively interfere with others' lives. Loving thy neighbor if you will.

No one has the ability to speak directly to God or comprehend His Plan for us though. So maybe God is trying to signal that it's ok and to prepare to reunite with Him in Heaven. Or maybe He has a great plan for you and needs your cooperation before things can get better. We'll never know, all we can be sure of is that God loves you by default. He understands and forgives you.

Maybe this is all contradictory lol but religion doesn't have to be what your church or holy text tells you to do. It's a way to give comfort and meaning to your life. Every holy text is just a few people's intrpretation of what happened. After all, right before the famous Leviticus verse against homosexuality, spoken by God to Moses, God says not to wear clothing of mixed textures. He also says it is forbidden to hold someone's wages overnight. Now how many devout Christians pay their employees as soon as their shift ends? And how many avoid mixed blends like they're supposed to? everyone is cherry-picking, even the priests. So feel free to think however you want.

 

[Dear Agony]

I'm sorry you're suicidal, but shame on you for repeating that heartless Christian cliché. Where was your benevolent God when I was 5 & begging Him to make my father stop raping me? Are you aware that there are people in this world who rape, torture & kill children?

Feel this too much. There's just no way God is real, to the point I get angry when I see someone quoting the Bible. Just... No. Call me religiously intolerant or whatever, I don't care. The Church is responsible for SO many deaths.

 

[filthyrottendirty]

I'm sorry you're suicidal, but shame on you for repeating that heartless Christian cliché. Where was your benevolent God when I was 5 & begging Him to make my father stop raping me? Are you aware that there are people in this world who rape, torture & kill children?

Yes I'm aware. I'm sorry that scripture was used incorrectly and taken out of context. The actual scripture (1 Corinthians 10:13) refers to temptation not hardships. "No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God isfaithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it."

 

[Conker]

Imaginary friends can be comforting, and prevent one from drowning in sorrow.

I've never seen evidence for such a benevolent entity. On the contrary, they seem to be evil to the core with no regard for any life forms besides pandering to the parasites. Leaving everybody else in agony.

Parasites aren't even in symbiosis with any natural balance, they're the real virus that should be hunted down one by one & deleted from existence.
Or if nothing else at least let us be taken to the real timeline freed from their disgusting presence.
Literally no one will miss them were their souls to die, the "respect" for them is inauthentic and it's all loyalty inspired through fear anyways.

 

[motel rooms]

Yes I'm aware. I'm sorry that scripture was used incorrectly and taken out of context. The actual scripture (1 Corinthians 10:13) refers to temptation not hardships. "No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God isfaithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it."

There's no point in continuing this discussion. Believe whatever makes this horrible life more bearable for you...

 

[Superdeterminist]

Definitely not, there's waaaaay too much suffering here for god to be benevolent, if god exists at all (personally doubt it).

 

[Naufrago]

All I know is it doesn't make sense how religious people paint a picture of an all loving god, love thy neighbour and whatnot, but if you look closely that's not quite the case when they condemn gays to hell and people who commit suicide to an eternity of suffering.

Gay people don't choose to be gay like so many people seem to believe. The choice is "will I be true to myself or pretend I'm straight"? And even if being gay was a choice, what makes it so wrong? How is anyone's sexual and romantic life anybody's business if it's not hurting anyone? Why would it be a sin in the eyes of a benevolent god?

If there was a god and he was benevolent, why would he not intervene and make live bearable for us? Instead all we get is sucky relatives, shitty medical care, absent friends... A society that is simply not made for vulnerable people.

Religion was made by humans to control humans with fear of hell and promises of paradise to those who follow it.

We're in hell already.

Concordo com o que você disse. Mas perceba que como você mesmo disse que "são pessoas, nossa sociedade que provocam a dor e o sofrimento". Deus não é responsável pelos atos dos ignorantes, todos tem seu livre arbítrio e a maioria usa de forma errada.
E a quanto a questão da homossexualidade, Tenho certeza que Deus é Pai não padrasto nem carrasco. A verdade é que, muito, mas muito mesmo que tá na bíblia, é história e regulamentos e leis de povos primitivos, preconceituosos com sentimentos de superioridade e idéias de "povo escolhido".
Deus se ocupa e zela pela sua alma para a preparação da eternidade.
ELE não se preocupa com a opção sexual do indivíduo.
Sexualidade é matéria e Deus é espírito.

 

[finalexit]

Lost my faith years back. If there's someone/something in control, they're psychopathic

 

[meetapple]

God hasn't made him or herself visible so the only reason to believe in him or her is by taking the words of others who have supposedly seen him or her. I tend to not believe those people.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I believe that there very well could be such a God or Gods but whoever they are, they likely hate me regardless. I also think that humanity will never be able to definitively prove whether or not they're real anyway.

 

[existtosuffer]

God is just an adult version of Santa Claus.

 

[OnlyTheWind]

I believe in a benevolent God, but not that He involves Himself with peoples personal lives. Humans are components of a galactic experiment at best, and only the chosen are of value; the rest are plants. The fortunes/ misfortunes that abound here are not the work of God, but the work of influences and space aliens who manipulate the planet and it's inhabitants in order to keep them enslaved here, either through addicition to "life" or through suffering. This garden/world has been taken over by the weeds and things have gone too far with zero chance of ever getting better. Humanity can start righting their wrongs by putting itself to death, starting with politicians. If I were God, I would kill all those motherfuckers around me.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

No. Not at all. From the perspective of a random mortal: there is far too much pointless cruelty and suffering. Either "god" is apathetic or non-existent.

 

[Shadowplay]

No.

I believe in a benevolent God, but not that He involves Himself with peoples personal lives. Humans are components of a galactic experiment at best, and only the chosen are of value; the rest are plants. The fortunes/ misfortunes that abound here are not the work of God, but the work of influences and space aliens who manipulate the planet and it's inhabitants in order to keep them enslaved here, either through addicition to "life" or through suffering. This garden/world has been taken over by the weeds and things have gone too far with zero chance of ever getting better. Humanity can start righting their wrongs by putting itself to death, starting with politicians. If I were God, I would kill all those motherfuckers around me.

That's crazy man ... ever tried DMT?

 

[ForNow]

If there is a god, do i believe it is anything other than a narcissistic misogynistic psychopathic sadist? No. Regardless, I want nothing to do with it.

 

[OnlyTheWind]

No.



That's crazy man ... ever tried DMT?

Never tried anything like that, but being depressed and suicidal for so long has led me down some interesting paths.

 

[Jumping_realms]

No.

Cross your fingers, you'll get the same outcome.

No.



That's crazy man ... ever tried DMT?

I have done deemsters multiple times... you?

I'm still 100% an atheist, though.

 

[Shadowplay]

No.

Cross your fingers, you'll get the same outcome.

I have done deemsters multiple times... you?

I'm still 100% an atheist, though.

Nah I've done other psychedelics though. DMT apparently wild you see the elves or whatever.

 

[AtMostOkay]

 

[FuneralCry]

There is no evidence of a God existing. I do not believe in religion. I think we are just here because of evolution.

 

[Midgardsorm]

 

[Jumping_realms]

No gods, no masters.