Discussion Do you agree that living in a world that treats voluntary death as something that's never okay is pushing some people further towards the edge?

[Unending]

I personally feel like the mainstream views towards voluntary death and euthanasia push me further towards the edge. I'm not sure how many others here share this experience but was curious so I figured I'd ask. For example, in my experience, when a loved one empathizes with me and validates how I feel, I have noticed that it motivates me to last longer as a portion of the pressure/obligation is seemingly lifted when the guilt dissipates.

Just as easily as true empathy for my situation makes me feel a little less pressure, it can be extremely distressing being challenged on my autonomy. I've noticed in the last few weeks, there have been instances of this where I became very distressed and experienced a sense of urgency towards dying. Does anyone else relate?

 

[imcadt99]

Yes! I might be more open to reengaging with their supposed solutions and treatment, which I've tried countless times at this point, but they insist on eliminating any other options. Options disappearing by the day as sellers are delisted and open discussion of the topic is cracked down upon.

If they want to make it a race against time that is a game I'm willing to play. But hopefully one day they will comprehend the damage they're doing to suicidal people by denying them an easy out if they feel they've exhausted all other options.

 

[DarkFriend.]

Certainly.

I think that it has strong ties to the feeling of being trapped. I know that at least for myself, the thought of killing myself affords me great freedom and comfort, since I know that this "ultimate horror", this "worst outcome", is something that I may inflict upon myself, and that from many perspectives is quite possibly a most desirable outcome.

In a perfect world we all have the option at a certain age to freely remove ourselves from this place--but this is not a perfect world, and perhaps the idea of perfection itself is a mere fantasy.

I think that many of us feel similarly to you--that we are caged here, and that we should set ourselves "free" by rejecting the system entirely. A winning-by-not-playing stratagem.

 

[Lost Magic]

Indeed. Very few people have understood the deep pain I am going through. I have had some who have understood but it was rare and refreshing. Most just don't want to acknowledge or understand the profound suffering that many of us face on a daily basis. I am honestly past caring about what either group thinks. I will go when I am good and ready, and nobody will deter me from it.

 

[disillusion]

Yes
Are we worse than dogs or cats? When our pets r suffering we euthanize them and nobdoy raise problem with that. I think we ( suicidal ppl ) r all forced to live to be taxpayer or to make more $$ for medical industry( pharma, psychiatrists, healers. Nurses. Surgeons u name it)
Just cash cow for the world

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes, in fact I believe that if we existed in a world where suicide is accepted as being a rational solution it would make this world to be less of a hellish place. But the attitudes towards suicide certainly increase my hatred towards this world, and it certainly can be so awful and frustrating feeling trapped here because of the limited access to reliable methods.

For me, the only relief lies in the thought of this existence being permanently forgotten about and I view it as being cruel how this logical view is labelled as being an "illness". It's true that life in itself is the problem, and it disgusts me the lack of compassion and understanding towards those who wish to exit. I believe that suicidal people are treat badly everywhere in this world.

 

[Kanashii]

Yes, in fact I believe that if we existed in a world where suicide is accepted as being a rational solution it would make this world to be less of a hellish place. But the attitudes towards suicide certainly increase my hatred towards this world, and it certainly can be so awful and frustrating feeling trapped here because of the limited access to reliable methods.

For me, the only relief lies in the thought of this existence being permanently forgotten about and I view it as being cruel how this logical view is labelled as being an "illness". It's true that life in itself is the problem, and it disgusts me the lack of compassion and understanding towards those who wish to exit. I believe that suicidal people are treat badly everywhere in this world.

I couldn't agree more, I feel like this world will never ever treat suicidal people the right way due to what people who don't feel like we do think. The fact suicidal people are viewed as ill doesn't help in any shape or form.

The world and people in it will just get worse and worse, as nothing gets better in this life. People don't even want to understand or listen to what suicidal people feel like because they simply don't care which further backs your statement on suicidal people being treated badly everywhere.

 

[Sparr0w]

if you knew you could painlessly die at any time, you'd give life another chance because you knew that if it didn't work out, you could just ctb. when you did ctb, you could set up everything beforehand without the risk of people "finding out" or fucking up your failed attempt - thus you would do it, fully thinking through your decision, and maybe you'll live a little longer just to put off filling out those forms.

being forced to stay alive and not talk about your feelings leads to, as you said, guilt and hatred - feeding into your desire to ctb. the only ways out are painful, so you're forced to really commit to what you're doing. you don't want to give life another go because if it doesn't work out, you'd lose the ctb ticket you've committed so much to. maybe you write up a will or get your stuff in order, but you need to keep things in line so if you fail you can continue on tomorrow with no one knowing, so you don't bother.

...if that makes sense? lol