Discussion DNR and DNI

[Thatdude]

So most of us knows about DNR, but most don't know how to go about getting one. In most places you must talk to your doctor about it, and both you and your doctor must sign it.
You can get a DNR card or other things, and you should have it on you at all times. If you don't, then it is possible you might fall out in an area where they might try to bring you back. Note if a normal person does try to do CPR on you and they do bring you back. Please don't legally go after them. Most don't know to check, and they are trying to do the right thing (and to be honest, IDK if you can go after them anyways).

Anyways, while you get this if you want to die look into a DNI do-not-intubate. A DNI basically says don't stick a breathing tube down you or something like that. There is cards and stuff for that.


Both you can revoke them quickly if you decided you wanted those treatments. And if you don't have the cards and stuff on you. Then the place will assume you want to stay alive and you want to take out a new life long loan for every second you are in their care

 

[Jrmull1993]

One thing to keep in mind that many people don't realize in a time of duress, a DNR and a DNI do not mean "Do not treat." If you are caught in an attempt to CTB lifesaving measures such as reversal drugs will still be given.

In cases where the DNR or the DNI are signed just prior to a suicide attempt, it can easily be argued that it is invalid as you were not "mentally fit" to make that decision. If your looking to get such an order, I'd have it in place well in advance of your early exit.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I'm not sure if a doctor has to sign them. I always thought that a DNR was only issued to those who met certain criteria, like severe chronic health issues, terminal conditions, that sort of thing? I don't think they issue them to someone younger in good health.

As far as what the OP said about possibly not being able to sue a good Samaritan who performs life saving measures on you..............I'm pretty sure the OP is right that in the DNR laws there are protections written-in for those that don't know about a DNR, so that they can't be sued, or if they injure you (break ribs for instance). But, as we all know, it only takes a greedy lawyer to try and sue anyway and get around the law through some technicality.

 

[Jrmull1993]

I'm not sure if a doctor has to sign them. I always thought that a DNR was only issued to those who met certain criteria,

This all depends on the state. In New York for example, our draconian evil witted "laws" do not allow an individual to draft their own DNR or DNI, they must be written medical orders signed by a doctor. While anyone over 18 regardless of health condition, can request it, a doctor has the legal right do refuse.

If you wish to bypass a doctor in New York, you'd need to have a healthcare proxy in place and it must state that they are allowed to refuse lifesaving measures on your behalf.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

draconian evil witted "laws"

LOL

I don't get how the same people who wrote these ""draconian evil witted "laws"" would include in these laws clauses that allow anyone over 18, regardless of health conditions, to have a DNR. Actually, thinking about it, that is very liberal thinking. The other part about not being able to draft your own DNR/DNI is not.

 

[Jrmull1993]

I don't get how the same people who wrote these ""draconian evil witted "laws"" would include in these laws clauses that allow anyone over 18, regardless of health conditions, to have a DNR.

The fact that a physician is required is evil in my opinion.

 

[HomesickAlien]

Depends on where you are.
In my jurisdiction, and in most of the developed world, you can't preemptively refuse first aid in the event of an accident or an ongoing CTB attempt.
But your living will (same document where you state your funeral arrangements and such - it can be notarized and it doesn't require a doctor to be registered) may contain a clause to reject prolonged machine-assisted living. In the same document you could even request a euthanasia (though this particular request does have to be approved by doctors when the time comes) if your medical quality of life were to suddenly take such a severe hit that you would require 24/7 assistance.

 

[outrider567]

My father had a DNR when he died in the ambulance but the paramedics didn't know about it so they brought him back to life--We were able to say our goodbyes to him in the next few days---Paramedics said if they had known about the DNR,they would of just let him go right there in the ambulance