Decision to suicide can never be regretted

[Lextyle]

People often say that things can always change and get better during life, while suicide is final action that cant be reverted back. But why can't one rotate the logic and say that you can regret not dying thousand times during life, but will never regret being dead, because there will be no 'you' to regret anything ever after.

 

[bl33ding_heart]

Unless your choice of method is instant it's very possible to regret it during your last moments.

 

[Lextyle]

Unless your choice of method is instant it's very possible to regret it during your last moments.

I understand, but the idea in the thread is about regret of being dead

 

[Smiles & Giggles]

Death is always preferable to life so there would be absolutely nothing to regret, if they could regret.

 

[avoid]

because there will be no 'you' to regret anything ever after.

This relies on the assumption that there is no afterlife. That is why most spiritual (religious) people say you can regret taking your own life.

 

[PanaxMan]

People often say that things can always change and get better during life, while suicide is final action that cant be reverted back. But why can't one rotate the logic and say that you can regret not dying thousand times during life, but will never regret being dead, because there will be no 'you' to regret anything ever after.

True

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

to me that's only one of the many benefits of my Death / Non-existence forever. i can't regret anything because there won't be any me after Death. the me is created only by my brain . the brain creates a self model.

while alive i and others can regret many things, which is only another way of suffering . but all bad memories all regrets, all pain , all thinking are wiped out once i die. these horrible things exist only in the brain.

to me the worst thing the brain creates is unending constant unbearable pain.

i would never prefer to be alive over dead .

while alive i could fall into a hell a trillion times worse than one can imagine . Permanent Non-Existence is the only safety from that nightmare

eternal Non-Existence is the only guarantee of never suffering so badly it's a trillion times worse than one can imagine.

yeah and they say "things might get better" but they conveniently leave out that "things could get a million times worse than you could ever imagine" . if someone convinces me to postpone my suicide for a day or stops me they'll feel like a hero. but then i get a brain stroke and homeless the next day unable to kill mysel so i could be suffering with brain damage homeless for years vs if i would've killed myself i would not exist and not suffer so i would have skipped years of extreme torture. and they'll say "but you got to watch that video and eat that sandwich be grateful for being alive " i say fuck you to them : since they stopped me they caused me all that torture and suffering .

one way to look at it as a cost benefit analysis . to me the constant worst pain and the most horrible things outweigh the fleeting meaningless pleasure addictions by a billion times. so to me Non-existence / Death is a billion times preffered over life/ existing

to me the fleeting pleasure addictions are not worth even 1 second of the worst pain , much less 3 seconds, 10 seconds. 10 minutes ( the horror) , 10 hours , 10 months.

1 micro-second after my brain dies it can never create me suffering pain or the self model again.

i didn't ask to be in this hell . the only thing keeping me from killing myself is fear of failing a suicide attempt and remaining alive but with brain damage or more damage.

This relies on the assumption that there is no afterlife. That is why most spiritual (religious) people say you can regret taking your own life.

1 thing out of many shows there is no afterlife is a human's cells are basically the same cells in other animals including the first cell. every cell has the same fundamental machines inside which include DNA, ribosomes, ATP, RNA, genetic code, cell membrane. for example a human brain cell has all these as does a fly brain cell and the first cell. all life evolved from a single cell. the cell didn't have a soul or afterlife but was a machine and so am i the descendant of the cell. a book can be written expanding on this. another is that there is no evidence for any afterlife but books of evidence and millions of peices of evidence and experiments demonstrate evolution is true.

 

[iCryInMySecretSpot]

Unless your choice of method is instant it's very possible to regret it during your last moments.

it is impossible to not regret the suicide. NO ONE can overcome their survival instincts. Thats why cutting yourself is the most accessible method, but the one with the lowest success rate,

Thats also why everyone is looking for a method where you are not able to reverse the decision (jumping, instant fainting, using drugs, etc). because even in all of these. you will regret it at the very last microsecond.

 

[Lextyle]

to me that's only one of the many benefits of my Death / Non-existence forever. i can't regret anything because there won't be any me after Death. the me is created only by my brain . the brain creates a self model.

while alive i and others can regret many things, which is only another way of suffering . but all bad memories all regrets, all pain , all thinking are wiped out once i die. these horrible things exist only in the brain.

to me the worst thing the brain creates is unending constant unbearable pain.

i would never prefer to be alive over dead .

while alive i could fall into a hell a trillion times worse than one can imagine . Permanent Non-Existence is the only safety from that nightmare

eternal Non-Existence is the only guarantee of never suffering so badly it's a trillion times worse than one can imagine.

yeah and they say "things might get better" but they conveniently leave out that "things could get a million times worse than you could ever imagine" . if someone convinces me to postpone my suicide for a day or stops me they'll feel like a hero. but then i get a brain stroke and homeless the next day unable to kill mysel so i could be suffering with brain damage homeless for years vs if i would've killed myself i would not exist and not suffer so i would have skipped years of extreme torture. and they'll say "but you got to watch that video and eat that sandwich be grateful for being alive " i say fuck you to them

one way to look at it as a cost benefit analysis . to me the constant worst pain and the most horrible things outweigh the fleeting meaningless pleasure addictions by a billion times. so to me Non-existence / Death is a billion times preffered over life/ existing

to me the fleeting pleasure addictions are not worth even 1 second of the worst pain , much less 3 seconds, 10 seconds. 10 minutes ( the horror) , 10 hours , 10 months.

1 micro-second after my brain dies it can never create me suffering pain or the self model again.

i didn't ask to be in this hell . the only thing keeping me from killing myself is fear of failing a suicide attempt and remaining alive but with brain damage or more damage.

Completely agree, our brains are wired to survive and fear death, while death is actually best state where you will never ever feel any deficiency or need for something, any fear, any regret, any memory. I know that we are machines that are working on constant deficiency and fear, people every day move because they have deficiency in many things or fear of staying in place. So most of life is negative feelings like desire and fear with short periods of pure happiness that are futile, because our brains will never let us feel good for too long, because it needs to create the deficiency again to make you continue moving. Having desire, fulfilling it and then taking pleasure will always be worse than not having the desire in anything in the first place which is the case for death.

 

[Spongiform]

People often say that things can always change and get better during life

I think it really comes down to why someone wants to die. Is it something you can fix or change? If so, fucking do it. (or try anyway) but if it's not fixable then that's a different story.

A lot of people can only see it one way and can't wrap their heads around the possibility of the other.

 

[Lextyle]

I think it really comes down to why someone wants to die. Is it something you can fix or change? If so, fucking do it. (or try anyway) but if it's not fixable then that's a different story.

A lot of people can only see it one way and can't wrap their heads around the possibility of the other.

Even if it's fixable maybe person thinks that it's pointless, not worth it and that suicide is easier way out, because life is a game without final prize, just constant strive for pointless things until you die.