Discussion Death: It DOESN'T MATTER how you "get there"

[ContinuousJump]

The result is always the same.

(I mean after you die. Of course, one must have a reliable method. I'm taking about trying too hard, thinking too much about making it a perfect experience.)

 

[ClownMe]

Yep, no matter who you are and what you've achieved in this life, it doesn't matter, everyone dies eventually.

 

[Hope]

For me the most important thing is the state of your mind in the end, are you calm? are you afraid? Did you have any regrets?

 

[forgotten15]

For me the most important thing is the state of your mind in the end, are you calm? are you afraid? Did you have any regrets?

Yes, i heard a theory that basically says the state you are when you die will be the one following you after death. I really hope this is not true, because obviously I will be a mess when I decide to end it and I always hoped feeling like this will end after I die.

 

[Hope]

Yes, i heard a theory that basically says the state you are when you die will be the one following you after death. I really hope this is not true, because obviously I will be a mess when I decide to end it and I always hoped feeling like this will end after I die.

reincarnation belief is very long, nvm, if there's life after dead, you ll forget your actually life. In fact, you ll be clean, and start again.

 

[forgotten15]

reincarnation belief is very long, nvm, if there's life after dead, you ll forget your actually life. In fact, you ll be clean, and start again.

Ugh, I really hope reincarnation is not true. I just really can't handle another life on this planet. I only want to disappear and not ever come back. No even as a cat.

 

[Amumu]

Given I absolutely don't believe in life after death, I find your post infuriating, OP.

Yes, it does matter where I get there. It'll be the last experience I have, maybe the most important one.

 

[FuneralCry]

Death is the only thing that is certain and life is temporary. Our only true purpose is to die. To me ctb is necessary to prevent decades of pointless suffering. I just wish it was easier to exit this world. It is difficult to ctb as we are programmed to survive. Methods can go wrong as well so you are right in saying that methods need to be reliable. The human life expectancy is too long, we deserve an option of euthanasia.

 

[Soulless Angel]

For me the most important thing is the state of your mind in the end, are you calm? are you afraid? Did you have any regrets?

state of your mind in the end is irrelevant, when you are old and your body has given up, sitting there with regrets is pointless, because by then you have no choice. this is why I believe in CTB!

 

[ContinuousJump]

Given I absolutely don't believe in life after death, I find your post infuriating, OP.

Yes, it does matter [how] I get there. It'll be the last experience I have, maybe the most important one.

I too do not believe in any afterlife... and I wasn't meaning to refer to any afterlife or reincarnation. So I do apologize.

I was taking about the ctb itself.

And what you said next is exactly the problem I was trying to get at: Why make our moment of death so important? Along with all that needs to be done technically (to make sure method is done right)... why must it also be some kind of "special occasion"? It seems to make the stress even worse.

In the end, one's death itself is just not — nor should we make it into — such a "big deal", imho.

state of your mind in the end is irrelevant, when you are old and your body has given up, sitting there with regrets is pointless, because by then you have no choice. this is why I believe in CTB!

Not to mention people dying in suddenly in a plane crash, etc.

The idea that one's "final thoughts" and "final moments" are something special, when we have absolutely no evidence of it — makes me think it's something people-culture have invented to make people more afraid of death and suicide.

I believe all kinds of games are being played at our expense. We're being played by mere notions in people's heads.

It is difficult to ctb as we are programmed to survive.

And the idea that one's death needs to be a "special occasion" is another one of those programs!

Everyone: Don't get caught-up in the idea that your death needs to be a "special thing". (Unless that's something you want... and not just programming society has forced into you.)

 

[Soulless Angel]

Not to mention people dying in suddenly in a plane crash, etc.

The idea that one's "final thoughts" and "final moments" are something special, when we have absolutely no evidence of it — makes me think it's something people-culture have invented to make people more afraid of death and suicide.

I agree, we have no idea what someone is thinking when they die, I read of a car crash a day or so ago in my local area, the person died instantly, one min driving along, the next they simply didn't exist any more, there are no thoughts, prob thinking about what they were having for tea, or their destination, not exactly life changing insightful thoughts, Just bam not there.
this is how I believe it is, anything else is a comfort to the still living to help ease them on this path

 

[fox_wannabe]

Everyone: Don't get caught-up in the idea that your death needs to be a "special thing". (Unless that's something you want... and not just programming society has forced into you.)

Thanks, i think you are right. It isn't end of anything important. That is right. The best suicide mindset would not be making big deal about it. Unless you want to of course.

 

[tryingtoescape]

I really needed to hear this. Thank you. This has been giving me a lot of stress. I'm obsessed with "final thoughts." My life has been so horrible and I want my death to be peaceful. It'll be the same destination either way.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Yes, i heard a theory that basically says the state you are when you die will be the one following you after death.

Yes, the neurochemical state of one's brain will remain after the brain is dead. Quite obvious.

 

[fox_wannabe]

I think title is correct, but the moment of dying is not the only scary one, there is also anxiety before attempt.
Will I do It?
What If I fail?
This is also very unnerving. This and the fear of what comes if I do not ctb.

 

[forgotten15]

Yes, the neurochemical state of one's brain will remain after the brain is dead. Quite obvious.

That theory was definitely not referring to the neurochemical state of the brain since it was about afterlife. Quite obvious I must add.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

That theory was definitely not referring to the neurochemical state of the brain since it was about afterlife. Quite obvious I must add.

The brain decides your state of mind, this is the only reasonable conclusion to draw at this point.

 

[fox_wannabe]

Given I absolutely don't believe in life after death, I find your post infuriating, OP.

Yes, it does matter where I get there. It'll be the last experience I have, maybe the most important one.

Damn I also want it to be peaceful. I cannot afford any peaceful methods. For me partial is peaceful but It fails most of the time.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Of course my suicide has to be a perfect experience. I die only ones and it is probably the most important event in my life. It has to be perfectly staged, celebrated and it has to be dignified like a Japanese hara-kiri. I really don´t understand people who hang themselves in their closet.