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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
433
People will always suggest self care as some sort of antidote for healing and I just giggle because that used to work. I used to be able to utilize all the feel good tools in my life, until they stopped working. Self care only works when you have the ability to still push forward but once you've hit the bottomless pit of darkness, those cutesy self care rituals are going to feel like an act, a role that you're simply just playing with zero satisfaction. For me, dying will be my self care when I'm ready to make that leap. The only self care method that brings joy to my face is the ability to finally die in a peaceful manner. Death is what shall bring me joy and happiness because this earth has become a personal hell
 
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locked*n*loaded

Archangel
Apr 15, 2022
8,448
I suppose that's as a legit a way of looking at ctb as anything else. If one can't get the self care they need to feel better, or have tried everything in their power to get some type of self care but none is available, or none works, then I suppose the last resort is to exercise the ultimate self care and remove yourself from that which caused the need for the care in the first place.
 
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Messgram

Meaningless struggle
Dec 30, 2021
202
I agree, but if you're looking for happiness in death, I think you're going the wrong way, there's no way to be happy if there's no longer you.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
11,692
Yes, I look at it like this too- It feels very appealing as a permanent solution to problems that never really go away.

Really irritates me when people say it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Granted, that could be the case but I think for a lot of people, to be considering suicide and in this state of mind, a fair amount of crap had lead up to it and once the thought is there, it's like a 'splinter in your mind.' (Love that line from 'The Matrix). It takes so much effort to change and I think for many people in this state of mind, it's hard to see the point.

Trouble I find is- while suicidal ideation is a comfort of sorts- a way out when I don't want to deal with life anymore. Actually going through with it is a whole other thing. I have massive anxiety about finding a peaceful, reliable method, it succeeding and any possible shitty afterlife. If only doing it was as easy as thinking about it.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,571
In my case, the best possible thing would be to exit this world. I think that I deserve non existence, I never asked for any of this in the first place anyway, and I was perfectly fine not existing until I was forced into this life. Death takes away all of life's problems and instead of being trapped in endless suffering, there would be nothing, and nothingness is ideal. As long as someone is alive, they are capable of experiencing so much pain. I just think that it's so horrifying how life even is a thing at all.
 
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PigeonDreamzz

The broken Pigeon
Feb 3, 2022
68
People will always suggest self care as some sort of antidote for healing and I just giggle because that used to work. I used to be able to utilize all the feel good tools in my life, until they stopped working. Self care only works when you have the ability to still push forward but once you've hit the bottomless pit of darkness, those cutesy self care rituals are going to feel like an act, a role that you're simply just playing with zero satisfaction. For me, dying will be my self care when I'm ready to make that leap. The only self care method that brings joy to my face is the ability to finally die in a peaceful manner. Death is what shall bring me joy and happiness because this earth has become a personal hell
omg that's LITERALLY me! You speak from my heart so often...
 
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Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
3,621
I get what you're saying but I still couldn't help but laugh at the title. I mean it sounds absurd but then a lot of things are a bit perverse and back to front
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
433
I agree, but if you're looking for happiness in death, I think you're going the wrong way, there's no way to be happy if there's no longer you.

Death is the only thing that makes me happy. Being alive doesn't. Next
 
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Messgram

Meaningless struggle
Dec 30, 2021
202
Death is the only thing that makes me happy. Being alive doesn't. Next
yeah, and you're only happy because you can contemplate death and for that you need to be alive, so your sentence is contradictory and self-refuting. Next
 
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damaged_soul

Student
Jul 30, 2022
199
For sure. It's ironic how people keep preaching about self-care while at the same time shunning suicide, not realizing that suicide is the ultimate form of self-care since you're literally getting rid of all your pain.
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
433
yeah, and you're only happy because you can contemplate death and for that you need to be alive, so your sentence is contradictory and self-refuting. Next
Oh I'm not contemplating death when I'm actually going through with it. Now, move along with your disgusting pro life views
For sure. It's ironic how people keep preaching about self-care while at the same time shunning suicide, not realizing that suicide is the ultimate form of self-care since you're literally getting rid of all your pain.
Exactly. There are even some pro lifers who have outed themselves on this thread, shaming suicide. I'm like why are you in here if you aren't suicidal? Why shame people who want to die? Doesn't seem very pro life to me ;)
 
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Rogue Proxy

Enlightened
Sep 12, 2021
1,315
For sure. It's ironic how people keep preaching about self-care while at the same time shunning suicide, not realizing that suicide is the ultimate form of self-care since you're literally getting rid of all your pain.
Self-care is evangelized to increase resilience, lifespans, and ultimately maximize human servitude. Can't "serve the greater good" for decades when you're deceased. (Of course, body and organ donations contribute to life-saving transplants and important medical research, but the main point still stands.)
 
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Messgram

Meaningless struggle
Dec 30, 2021
202
Oh I'm not contemplating death when I'm actually going through with it. Now, move along with your disgusting pro life views
you look so mad its funny. And why am I pro lifer? I'm one step away from being a pro mortalist yet you call me pro life, it's the funniest shit I've read in ages 🤣
 
Insomniac

Insomniac

𝔄 𝔲 𝔱 𝔦 𝔰 𝔪
May 21, 2021
1,357
suicide is selfless so it's more about preserving others. the narrative that suicide is selfish is bs (unless you're the parent of a minor)
 
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lights_are_on

unfortunately
Apr 9, 2022
45
I agree, but if you're looking for happiness in death, I think you're going the wrong way, there's no way to be happy if there's no longer you.
Whats the point of saying this here
 
Ash’Girl

Ash’Girl

Girl, Interrupted
Apr 29, 2022
386
You know, I was thinking at some godforsaken hour of the night when I couldn't sleep.

All these people on social media share these memes about how silence kills, mental health shouldn't be stigmatised, reach out, talk about it.

So you do… and they think you've grown another head, want to get you locked up, accuse you of attention seeking or just avoid you because they don't know what to do.

Then you get spaces like this, where people actually can speak up about it and others get it, don't minimise or invalidate your feelings (which probably in itself does actually help some people to recovery, if that's their path). And the same meme sharer types want to shut it down. 😑
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
433
you look so mad its funny. And why am I pro lifer? I'm one step away from being a pro mortalist yet you call me pro life, it's the funniest shit I've read in ages 🤣
You're pro life and it's obvious but if you're going to claim to not be, by all means sl*** your wr**** 💋
 
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Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,487
Death is self-destruction.
You're pro life and it's obvious but if you're going to claim to not be, by all means sl*** your wr**** 💋
What does the "sl*** your wr****" mean?
 
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Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,487
slice your wrist i guess, better slice my throat instead
Are you serious? That's what I thought they meant. I didn't see anything that you said that seemed "pro life"
 
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AliceTheGoon

Specialist
Jul 1, 2022
399
I agree, but if you're looking for happiness in death, I think you're going the wrong way, there's no way to be happy if there's no longer you.
mblum has N so unlike other methods she will have some happy moments between the fatal act and death. I made an attempt with pills many years ago and the time between swallowing the pills and falling asleep was euphoric.
 
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Messgram

Meaningless struggle
Dec 30, 2021
202
Are you serious? That's what I thought they meant. I didn't see anything that you said that seemed "pro life"
yeah, I don't know how they came to that conclusion either. Whoever seeks death does not need happiness.
 
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Kazeeemoo12

Member
May 23, 2022
23
Death is like being frozen in time. Its fascinating and exciting
 
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Snatsbats

Student
Jan 9, 2021
182
yeah, and you're only happy because you can contemplate death and for that you need to be alive, so your sentence is contradictory and self-refuting. Next
You dont need to feel happiness once you are dead. A happy life is better than non existence, but non existence is better than an unhappy life full of pain.
 
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chloramine

Mage
Apr 18, 2022
504
Yes, I look at it like this too- It feels very appealing as a permanent solution to problems that never really go away.

Really irritates me when people say it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Granted, that could be the case but I think for a lot of people, to be considering suicide and in this state of mind, a fair amount of crap had lead up to it and once the thought is there, it's like a 'splinter in your mind.' (Love that line from 'The Matrix). It takes so much effort to change and I think for many people in this state of mind, it's hard to see the point.
That saying also completely ignores that permanent solutions are great. Temporary problem or not if there's a solution that solves it forever then that's much better than a temporary solution.
 
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Messgram

Meaningless struggle
Dec 30, 2021
202
A happy life is better than non existence
those who don't exist don't need happiness as you say, so it's completely illogical to say that a "happy life" is better than not existing.
 

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