Death gets a bad rap

[whatevs]

I'm 30. Every year I see dying as less horrifying and undesirable. We will all die anyway, and the shitshow that goes on while we are alive is really quite pathetic. What's so grandiose about survival? Another day with the same problems, which you will likely never solve, another day where horrible illness and injury are possible, of fighting with everyone else for attention, space, resources, of emitting sticky fluids from your sexual organs and sitting down in the toilet to crap.

Honestly, I'm grateful for Will Smith. But we need more. He went on to grab his golden idol thingy anyway. The shitshow regained its natural flow. We really need to break the monotony here. We need catharsis. We've been doing the whole reproduction, death and sentience thing for a long time, and apparently nobody is coming down to tell us if we are going in the right direction or stuck in the mud, running in circles.

With death there is another advantage, if you are metaphysically inclined you should be expecting SOMETHING, whatever it might be, but certainly distinct from what we are enduring now. And really, why would self-removal worsen your "spiritual situation" after death compared with living desperately until an involuntary exit, not being the nicest person either?

 

[Darkover]

death is easier than life its just so hard to kill yourself, if everyone had access to easy way out nobody would be alive here, really tells you all you need to know about this place that life just isn;t worth it.

 

[whatevs]

death is easier than life its just so hard to kill yourself, if everyone had access to easy way out nobody would be alive here, really tells you all you need to know about this place that life just isn;t worth it.

That's not true, normies love life for the most part. The Earth is squirming with millions of people that hold on as best as they can to their bodies.

 

[walt]

Personally, I'm still on the "Life is a positive thing" train, but I can absolutely reason with anti-natalists, and I can understand where you are coming from, as much as I may come from the same background.

But I have to say, I agree that death gets a bad rap, and that death can be a positive thing. I have no quarrels with suicide besides me being an emotional wreck every time I learn about someone actually doing it. The problem lies at the fact that most people aren't really living.. Most people don't know how to live. And neither do I. I think that this must be a problem in our mindsets. A lot of people don't think positively on survival, because the feelings of survival against the odds overwhelms them, even if they are still living. Most of my positive mindset comes from the fact that I'm still alive, and I'm still holding on to my good side despite my family basically torturing my brain into thinking that I'm a bad person.
A lot of it too, comes from my knowledge of the human condition, and the universe, as limited as I might be in that field. It's cool to think that I was somehow chosen to be here in such an extraordinarily rare time, and that for trillions of 'my time-s' ahead, there will be absolutely nothing. No energy, no heat, just nothing, not even blackness. It makes me nostalgic, and makes me feel kinda special.

 

[Rational man]

Humankind in general has a poor relationship with death. Death is feared and yet we all die. People live day after day, not accepting that death gets nearer each day. I hope my death will be celebrated to the things i have done and not be remembered as that unfortunate person who developed a rare autoimmune disease. I am more than my physical body. I am the memories and the legacy i have left. My extinction will.arrive soon and until that day, each day is my only guarantee.

 

[Darkover]

hat's not true, normies love life for the most part. The Earth is squirming with millions of people that hold on as best as they can to their bodies.

evolution favours those without the inbuilt ability to cease functioning but if everything a live had a way to cease functioning there would be nothing alive, it seems has tho the only way you can keep life alive is to enslave it without anyway to ceasae functioning the only way to keep the cycle going is to stop everything from leaving, evolution isn't pretty it's functional producing the kind of results you see here people wanting to die but can't and therefore are being held hostage by a rogue system.

 

[Gsvko]

I think those bad things are acceptable to an average person because they are able to experience enough of positive to counter. I've never heard a regular person complain about having to shit, it's negligible.
The reproduction thing can be very enjoyable to some, I can understand the appeal even if it's not for me. If people have children out of love and are mature, they appreciate life, want to give, protect and love it, I think they can experience a beautiful range of emotions. A lot of children are grateful to their parents. Of course, not always the case. Suicide it is.
No life is perfect, it just has to be worth living.

I don't understand what would be right or wrong way for us to do things, I see us just as another species that happend.

If there really is something after, I hope pain exits the chat and "they" say: "You idiot, we predicted you to save yourself much earlier." And I hope there's beer.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

I'm 30. Every year I see dying as less horrifying and undesirable. We will all die anyway, and the shitshow that goes on while we are alive is really quite pathetic. What's so grandiose about survival? Another day with the same problems, which you will likely never solve, another day where horrible illness and injury are possible, of fighting with everyone else for attention, space, resources, of emitting sticky fluids from your sexual organs and sitting down in the toilet to crap.

Honestly, I'm grateful for Will Smith. But we need more. He went on to grab his golden idol thingy anyway. The shitshow regained its natural flow. We really need to break the monotony here. We need catharsis. We've been doing the whole reproduction, death and sentience thing for a long time, and apparently nobody is coming down to tell us if we are going in the right direction or stuck in the mud, running in circles.

With death there is another advantage, if you are metaphysically inclined you should be expecting SOMETHING, whatever it might be, but certainly distinct from what we are enduring now. And really, why would self-removal worsen your "spiritual situation" after death compared with living desperately until an involuntary exit, not being the nicest person either?

I do not understand how Will Smith falls into this equation lol, but yes, the void is something that we should all be immensely grateful for.

Unfortunately, an image of an all-mighty God has taken all the credit for the still, unassumming void we all were "ripped" out from -- but will return to!

Death sets all score sheets to zero. Null. Nada. Nobody wins, nobody loses. Nothing is grand, but nothing is uncomfortable. Total harmony.
It is the human instrumentality project, but much better because consciousness is erased as a non-state "collective". But how can nothing form a collective? It cannot.

Eternal peace. Sleep is laughibly more uncomfortable than the void "after" death.

 

[whatevs]

I do not understand how Will Smith falls into this equation lol, but yes, the void is something that we should all be immensely grateful for.

Unfortunately, an image of an all-mighty God has taken all the credit for the still, unassumming void we all were "ripped" out from -- but will return to!

Death sets all score sheets to zero. Null. Nada. Nobody wins, nobody loses. Nothing is grand, but nothing is uncomfortable. Total harmony.
It is the human instrumentality project, but much better because consciousness is erased as a non-state "collective". But how can nothing form a collective? It cannot.

Eternal peace. Sleep is laughibly more uncomfortable than the void "after" death.

I tried to spice up things in my thread a la Gillean Bandeleur (alias off the top of my head of that poster)... As per Will Smith, he disrupted the flow of events with a slap recently. I appreciate those things.

 

[jimmy7754]

I'm in hell at 32 and I can attest that 33 will be even more hellish.. I gotta go..

 

[whatevs]

I think those bad things are acceptable to an average person because they are able to experience enough of positive to counter. I've never heard a regular person complain about having to shit, it's negligible.
The reproduction thing can be very enjoyable to some, I can understand the appeal even if it's not for me. If people have children out of love and are mature, they appreciate life, want to give, protect and love it, I think they can experience a beautiful range of emotions. A lot of children are grateful to their parents. Of course, not always the case. Suicide it is.
No life is perfect, it just has to be worth living.

I don't understand what would be right or wrong way for us to do things, I see us just as another species that happend.

If there really is something after, I hope pain exits the chat and "they" say: "You idiot, we predicted you to save yourself much earlier." And I hope there's beer.

The shitting thing is getting on my nerves, I shit you not. I genuinely feel disgusted by life in some respects, I know that it is bizarre. Eating, sex, excrement. I do and enjoy those things but I am ambivalent as fuck, because I'm not posing, a part of me just looks at life from the outside and doesn't respect it at all. I'm not sure where the hell does that comes from.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

I tried to spice up things in my thread a la Gillean Bandeleur (alias off the top of my head of that poster)... As per Will Smith, he disrupted the flow of events with a slap recently. I appreciate those things.

I must admit I got a lot of entertainment from the reactions. The sheer excitement of someone doing something they are not meant to do under any circumstance. It was so absurd.

 

[Gsvko]

The shitting thing is getting on my nerves, I shit you not. I genuinely feel disgusted by life in some respects, I know that it is bizarre. Eating, sex, excrement. I do and enjoy those things but I am ambivalent as fuck, because I'm not posing, a part of me just looks at life from the outside and doesn't respect it at all. I'm not sure where the hell does that comes from.

I really like reading your views because they sometimes remind me of views I used to have, not saying that they are better now lol.
I didn't understand sex, I mean I did but not the hype. My doc once told me that I'm autistic, wasn't sure if that was an insult though.
Anyway, I understood the appeal once I fell in love. I know you mentioned somewhere that you didn't have a partner, perhaps you have some unlocked potential hah. That was my issue.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

I really like reading your views because they sometimes remind me of views I used to have, not saying that they are better now lol.
I didn't understand sex, I mean I did but not the hype. My doc once told me that I'm autistic, wasn't sure if that was an insult though.
Anyway, I understood the appeal once I fell in love. I know you mentioned somewhere that you didn't have a partner, perhaps you have some unlocked potential hah. That was my issue.

Yeah sex with a partner you actually love is something entirely different.

It is the difference between carnal desire and something almost poetic. I sound like a loon, but this is how I feel.

 

[Nightmare Painting]

That's not true, normies love life for the most part. The Earth is squirming with millions of people that hold on as best as they can to their bodies.

I'm not sure that they'll be singing the same tune when they can't escape reality anymore with distractions and have to face things like finite resources, climate change, war, poverty, mass migrations, etc in the future. I think normies love certain aspects of life that make the mundane suffering from the generic life script acceptable. But if they ever have to experience the kind of profound suffering that can't be overcome with hopium and distractions then even suicide will become an acceptable option for them.