Dare to commit suicide - is it only a matter of motivation?

[NormaJeane]

I am going to kill myself with plastic bag and handcuffs! The R2D Rebreather II did not work for me, so I have been planning and pondering about the plastic bag method since last year. It is difficult to take your own life alone without the help of a doctor. I live like in a prison in my country, I can not import lethal drugs so I do not have many methods to choose from. I prefer a method that is reliable to avoid failure. Many people have committed suicide with plastic bag over the head - the method can succeed if done correctly. The plastic bag method is reliable but not peaceful. The death process is short and the cause of death will be lack of oxygen and carbon dioxide poisoning.

When I placed the plastic bag over the head, I panicked and started hyperventilating because of carbon dioxide and then I tore the bag off my head before I had time to lie down and die. The problem is to overcome the survival instinct. The only drugs I have are alcohol and sleeping pills. If I overdose sleeping pills to become unconscious with this method, I must have antiemetics, which I can not get hold of. However, if I use drugs to overcome the survival instinct, maybe the method will fail because I will lose control of my movements. But without drugs I can not overcome the survival instinct, not yet anyway.

Many people want to commit suicide, but some of them only think about it. To move from thought to action with suicide, I think one has to solve two problems: find the courage to die, which is psychological and to overcome the survival instinct, which is physical. It is possible to overcome the fear of death by preparing mentally well in advance. The survival instinct is about physical reactions; escape, battle or a paralyzed condition.

The plastic bag method must be possible to implement. You can read evidence of successful suicides with this method below: plastic bag with handcuffs and couple committed suicide together with plastic bags.

Maybe I have to perform the method without drugs. Maybe it is better to suffer so that the method does ot fail. Humans can do many things because of motivation: study in school, climb mountains and travel in space. Do you think that finding the courage to commit suicide only is a matter of motivation?

Woman found dead with plastic bag and handcuffs
Article on the Internet: New York Woman found dead on bedroom floor with hands cuffed Plastic bag on head by Benjamin Berkowitz
Plastic bag suicide and whiskey

 

[Anónimo]

Sounds like the duct tape method. I assume it can be done but requires a lot of mental strength. It's crazy how something so simple such as not breathing can be so hard to overcome.

 

[FuneralCry]

Of course suicide is very difficult as the society does not respect our right to die and denies us the option of a peaceful way to exit, and we are also programmed to survive. I believe that many people overcome the SI when they get desperate enough and the pain of living becomes unbearable. The plastic bag method does sound like a horrible way to go, but for me it would be preferable to using a risky method. To me it is awful hearing about how people have got damage from failed attempts. I wish you the best in whatever happens.

 

[NormaJeane]

Sounds like the duct tape method. I assume it can be done but requires a lot of mental strength. It's crazy how something so simple such as not breathing can be so hard to overcome.

Yeah, this situation feels crazy, but it is very hard to commit suicide alone without lethal drugs. It seems like when life has evolved, life does not want to die. The duct tape method is harder to cope with than plastic bag method I think because with the duct tape method it will be impossible to breath and then panic occurs before you will have time to tape the face and the head. I suppose people who succeeded with the duct tape method had practiced to hold their breath beforehand.

 

[new.solution1]

I am going to kill myself with plastic bag and handcuffs! The R2D Rebreather II did not work for me, so I have been planning and pondering about the plastic bag method since last year. It is difficult to take your own life alone without the help of a doctor. I live like in a prison in my country, I can not import lethal drugs so I do not have many methods to choose from. I prefer a method that is reliable to avoid failure. Many people have committed suicide with plastic bag over the head - the method can succeed if done correctly. The plastic bag method is reliable but not peaceful. The death process is short and the cause of death will be lack of oxygen and carbon dioxide poisoning.

When I placed the plastic bag over the head, I panicked and started hyperventilating because of carbon dioxide and then I tore the bag off my head before I had time to lie down and die. The problem is to overcome the survival instinct. The only drugs I have are alcohol and sleeping pills. If I overdose sleeping pills to become unconscious with this method, I must have antiemetics, which I can not get hold of. However, if I use drugs to overcome the survival instinct, maybe the method will fail because I will lose control of my movements. But without drugs I can not overcome the survival instinct, not yet anyway.

Many people want to commit suicide, but some of them only think about it. To move from thought to action with suicide, I think one has to solve two problems: find the courage to die, which is psychological and to overcome the survival instinct, which is physical. It is possible to overcome the fear of death by preparing mentally well in advance. The survival instinct is about physical reactions; escape, battle or a paralyzed condition.

The plastic bag method must be possible to implement. You can read evidence of successful suicides with this method below: plastic bag with handcuffs and couple committed suicide together with plastic bags.

Maybe I have to perform the method without drugs. Maybe it is better to suffer so that the method does ot fail. Humans can do many things because of motivation: study in school, climb mountains and travel in space. Do you think that finding the courage to commit suicide only is a matter of motivation?

Woman found dead with plastic bag and handcuffs
Article on the Internet: New York Woman found dead on bedroom floor with hands cuffed Plastic bag on head by Benjamin Berkowitz
Plastic bag suicide and whiskey

Is it true that SI and courage to die are separate?

I've seen people use the term SI on here without distinction. If there is a distinction, then that would mean a method like N would have no SI, since all it involves is drinking?

 

[romanholidaydionysu]

I don't know that I would consider it from the standpoint of courage to overcome SI so much as becoming desperate enough to push through SI. For example, the people who jump from a burning highrise aren't even suicidal, and are well aware of the effects of jumping from a window. However, the terror and pain of the flames overcomes the fear of the fall. Considering it this way may open paths previously unconsidered.

 

[its-about-time]

I don't know that I would consider it from the standpoint of courage to overcome SI so much as becoming desperate enough to push through SI. For example, the people who jump from a burning highrise aren't even suicidal, and are well aware of the effects of jumping from a window. However, the terror and pain of the flames overcomes the fear of the fall. Considering it this way may open paths previously unconsidered.

I've wondered about this. Did the jumpers from, say, 9/11 choose to jump (faster, less painful death) instead of face their certain fate (staying in the building until it collapsed on them- death likely by burning or crushing)? Or were they so desperate to escape certain death that they jumped, even though doing so was also certain death?

My survival instinct is strong, psychologically, which is why a method that incurs unconsciousness or death very rapidly is preferred. I'm sure I want to ctb, but as soon as I get there, I suddenly want to live. SN is my current method but I'm hoping to overcome the mental bit with lots of sedatives and benzos beforehand.

 

[Mocon33]

I don't know that I would consider it from the standpoint of courage to overcome SI so much as becoming desperate enough to push through SI. For example, the people who jump from a burning highrise aren't even suicidal, and are well aware of the effects of jumping from a window. However, the terror and pain of the flames overcomes the fear of the fall. Considering it this way may open paths previously unconsidered.

I've often wondered why people in this situation don't at least try to climb down, Sure it's risky, but not as risky as jumping.