Cyanide vs Thiopental Case Studies

[eashanm]

Hello,

As I look to make the final exit this Sunday 14th, I'm looking to choose between Cyanide and Thiopental.

Does anyone have any case studies on Cyanide?

In the movie - The Sea Inside (2004), cyanide is described as peaceful. People say that it kills very fast in less than a minute, conciousness is lost in mere seconds.

In PPH, it is rated 10 on reliability scale compared to 7 for SN, while 5 on peacefulness compared to 7 for SN.

Some comments on Cyanide:

1. It is very quick and rather painless from what I have seen. During a court procedure I saw a guy secretly slip a capsule in his mouth, it was later proven cyanide. He sat there as normal until about 2 1/2 mins. later when he swivelled around his chair and began making these loud unnatural sounds like snorting & snarling. His attorneys immediately knew something was seriously wrong, especially one female attorney sitting next to him who started to lose it as she called for help. Then he began seizing and fell onto the floor. The attorney was so shocked she could barely get any words out. I couldn't see the rest as people huddled over him but soon after he fell over and that was it. I think the entire episode took about 3 1/2 mins. Paramedics came & hooked him up but I believe he was gone as they wheeled him put .

2. Evidence from people who have suffered cyanide poisoning and been successfully saved by immediate administration of cyanocobalamin is that consciousness is lost very early in cyanide poisoning, so although the seizures look as if they would be painful, the victim does not feel them.

3. It kills much the same way as carbon monoxide in car exhaust — by preventing oxygen from getting to your blood cells, and by extension, the brain.

4. The LD50 (Lethal Dose that will kill 50 percent of the population) is 350mg (a rather sizeable capsule) taken orally by a human being of 160 pounds with a kill time in most circumstances of less than one minute but in certain cases it can take as long as four minutes. However, consciousness is usually lost in a few seconds after ingestion following a sensation of extreme pain or shock by the victim.

5. However, all indications are that it is not painful, you just slowly stop all respiratory processes and die.

6. Cyanide doesn't kill you instantly. You are unconscious in a few seconds and unable to do anything before death in a minute or two.

If you have any case studies of oral Thiopental, that'd be great too.

Here: I've made a document discussing various methods where you can check the PPH scores and more comments on Cyanide/SN/Thiopental: Euthanasia Plan - Methods

 

[walkingdead2023]

Hello,

As I look to make the final exit this Sunday 14th, I'm looking to choose between Cyanide and Thiopental.

Does anyone have any case studies?

In the movie - The Sea Inside (2004), cyanide is described as peaceful.

In PPH, it is rated 10 on reliability scale, while 5 on peacefulness compared to 7 for SN.

Some comments on Cyanide:
1. It is very quick and rather painless from what I have seen. During a court procedure I saw a guy secretly slip a capsule in his mouth, it was later proven cyanide. He sat there as normal until about 2 1/2 mins. later when he swivelled around his chair and began making these loud unnatural sounds like snorting & snarling. His attorneys immediately knew something was seriously wrong, especially one female attorney sitting next to him who started to lose it as she called for help. Then he began seizing and fell onto the floor. The attorney was so shocked she could barely get any words out. I couldn't see the rest as people huddled over him but soon after he fell over and that was it. I think the entire episode took about 3 1/2 mins. Paramedics came & hooked him up but I believe he was gone as they wheeled him put .

2. Evidence from people who have suffered cyanide poisoning and been successfully saved by immediate administration of cyanocobalamin is that consciousness is lost very early in cyanide poisoning, so although the seizures look as if they would be painful, the victim does not feel them.

3. It kills much the same way as carbon monoxide in car exhaust — by preventing oxygen from getting to your blood cells, and by extension, the brain.

4. The LD50 (Lethal Dose that will kill 50 percent of the population) is 350mg (a rather sizeable capsule) taken orally by a human being of 160 pounds with a kill time in most circumstances of less than one minute but in certain cases it can take as long as four minutes. However, consciousness is usually lost in a few seconds after ingestion following a sensation of extreme pain or shock by the victim.

5. However, all indications are that it is not painful, you just slowly stop all respiratory processes and die.


If you have any case studies of Thiopental, that'd be great too.

Do you mind sharing how to get it?

 

[December]

i've always heard cyanide described as painful, so this is unusual to me. there was talk on thiopental on the forum, but not much. im searching too

 

[eashanm]

Anything on this? Case studies of Thiopental or Cyanide?

 

[DepressedChemMajor]

Do you mind sharing how to get it?

Please let me know too

 

[1up]

They have a few links for buying them in their document.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I've never seen someone taking cyanide live. Cyanide isn't peaceful that's what I know but I think if ingesting 1g or more it works pretty quick. Cyanide would be my backup method in an emergency case. Rescue is difficult almost impossible.

 

[eashanm]

I've never seen someone taking cyanide live. Cyanide isn't peaceful that's what I know but I think if ingesting 1g or more it works pretty quick. Cyanide would be my backup method in an emergency case. Rescue is difficult almost impossible.

I have a video of Cyanide ingestion. It looks peaceful, but the video is not complete I think.

Link to VIdeo

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I have a video of Cyanide ingestion. It looks peaceful, but the video is not complete I think.

Link to VIdeo

Well imo it's working "fast" if you ingest 1g+ but that is only what I assume personally. It's - in any case - one of the best poisons and fast acting.

Whether "suffocating" after full hanging is better or some agony for a few minutes after ingesting Cyanide is the same in the end.