Cyanide inside capsule

[rata1]

I bought it from a local chemical supplier along with other items to look less suspicious. It's not regulated here

do you live in the eu? i also would like to know where i can get cyanide.

 

[ebt88]

Not eu. To clarify I bought potassium cyanide KCN. Check your local chemical suppliers

 

[Jumper Geo]

I agree there is a chance of Cyanide involving some pain, but there is almost no chance of surviving with side effects and it's extremely easy to execute, just 1g will do (either pill or drink, take more faster and more intense effects). These two factors make it very interesting to me as opposed to other methods. Initially I was looking into inert gas but to me it turned out to be too cumbersome

Hiya

This is what I was just reading in the PPH, what Country are you from, I'm in the UK and it's regulated as fck, I have SN and the meds but I would have liked cyanide as it's less to consume and pretty much guaranteed fast way to ctb, 3 Metoclopramide and say goodbye.

 

[ebt88]

I guess there is a reason for it to be regulated. I haven't researched SN but as I hear it's very good too. Are you dissolving it in water or encapsulating?

 

[Jumper Geo]

I've not made up my mind yet experimented in a few different methods below, but Cyanide is only 1-2grams compared to 25/30grams of SN.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...zla-rolling-papers-chocolate-flavoured.37698/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...zla-rolling-papers-chocolate-flavoured.37698/

Cheers

Geo

 

[ebt88]

Oh I see it's a bit more troublesome taking it though it seems people succeed at it.

Just found more doc about these methods glass/pill

PPeH 20191210 - Chapter 7: Lethal Inorganic Salts

 

[aminend]

There are many reports of SN consumption. It is fatal when followed correctly and not saved. I will link them below, some are even documented and confirmed.

@aminend you have several lethal methods at your disposal.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...nd-experiences-information-google-docs.29900/

I wanna combine potassium cyanide by exit bag. I will shed Diethyl ether on exit bag for help to unconsciousness. but I think potassium cyanide is enough alone

 

[Aap]

No sure If serious, but ether would only exponentially increase the complications. You would pass out much faster from inert gas than ether.

 

[milorddd]

Was wondering how long do you need yo inhale HCN to do the job? Was thinking to put my KCN into HCL solution in a bottle

 

[ebt88]

Very little less than a minute you pass out, check it here

PPeH 20191210 - Chapter 7: Lethal Inorganic Salts

Beware HCN gas could reach other people so you should be very careful

 

[milorddd]

It says 1-3 minutes though, but I'm not sure does that means I need to inhale it 1-3 minutes or after taking a sniff then in 1-3 minutes I will pass out

 

[ebt88]

A sniff of sufficient concentration. See below...


Cyanide kills quickly: death occurs within seconds of a lethal dose of cyanide gas and within minutes of ingestion of a lethal dose of cyanide salt.

Publications | Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security

Our publications keep professionals informed on the most important developments and issues in health security and biosecurity.

www.centerforhealthsecurity.org

 

[Aap]

This is such a bad idea. Why don't you research the court cases surrounding why the gas chamber wise was stopped in the US to understand how long death can take and how bad it can be.

 

[ebt88]

All methods have a chance of going wrong somehow. I think it's a low probability with a high dose. Speaking from my readings, not an expert in biology/chemistry.

 

[Aap]

I would have guessed as much from reading your posts. I have a feeling you have never smelled concentrated aqueous HCl, or the gas it off puts. I'm not sure why, but this is how every CN thread seems to go.

why not re-read this thread as well as accounts of the gas chambers used in Germany during ww2 as well as accounts of it used in the US for executions? CN isn't a magic off switch for life, and it's usage historically has been more geared around certainty (taken orally or used as a gas in closed systems) than peacefulness. Trying to convert it to HCN gas is one of the absolute worst ways to use it.

in addition to harming others, simply because a high concentration can kill rapidly often does not work out that way in practice. Why? Because it takes time, volume, and lack of circulation to achieve this concentration. you seem to be unwilling to consider the documented cases I've mentioned more than once. I'm out of this thread.

you are free to do what you want to you, but I sure as hell hope you aren't reckless or malicious enough to harm others.

 

[ebt88]

To clarify I'm personally against HCN gas too for the reasons you mentioned. I just quoted some sources. Though personally i'm in favour of oral KCN / SN.

 

[milorddd]

I would have guessed as much from reading your posts. I have a feeling you have never smelled concentrated aqueous HCl, or the gas it off puts. I'm not sure why, but this is how every CN thread seems to go.

why not re-read this thread as well as accounts of the gas chambers used in Germany during ww2 as well as accounts of it used in the US for executions? CN isn't a magic off switch for life, and it's usage historically has been more geared around certainty (taken orally or used as a gas in closed systems) than peacefulness. Trying to convert it to HCN gas is one of the absolute worst ways to use it.

in addition to harming others, simply because a high concentration can kill rapidly often does not work out that way in practice. Why? Because it takes time, volume, and lack of circulation to achieve this concentration. you seem to be unwilling to consider the documented cases I've mentioned more than once. I'm out of this thread.

you are free to do what you want to you, but I sure as hell hope you aren't reckless or malicious enough to harm others.

No, no I'm just wondering the possibilty that's all because I'm not sure if capsule can hold enough quantity. I saw from various articles even though they say unknown quantity, but there are cases that people survives. Saw a case study that shows a person do it in a car, that's why I asked here.

I'm not trying to get anyone harmed, just wanted to do this right. Because I'm tired of my life. Tried the SN method before but failed, not sure probably the purity is not high enough. That's why I opted for CN method. Just wanted to do it right this time.

 

[SSlostallhope]

Would be amazing if could get this in the U.K.

 

[AnxietyAttack44]

Would be amazing if could get this in the U.K.

I would like to get some as well, but i dont know how.

 

[ebt88]

No, no I'm just wondering the possibilty that's all because I'm not sure if capsule can hold enough quantity. I saw from various articles even though they say unknown quantity, but there are cases that people survives. Saw a case study that shows a person do it in a car, that's why I asked here.

I'm not trying to get anyone harmed, just wanted to do this right. Because I'm tired of my life. Tried the SN method before but failed, not sure probably the purity is not high enough. That's why I opted for CN method. Just wanted to do it right this time.

You can easily weight the content of a 00 pill as the book says. And take 2 or 3. I plan to take 4 0 pills which is about 1.6g I weighted it. Falling would be feeling more pain than possible but you won't survive (remember empty stomach). I think of the possibility of some pain, but to me life entails more and more certain pain everyday. On the other hand if you were able to drink sn water then you may be just fine drinking kcn water as discussed before

 

[Umbrellaterm]

why not re-read this thread as well as accounts of the gas chambers used in Germany during ww2 as well as accounts of it used in the US for executions? CN

Your pro life attitude shines bright like a diamond.
ive been doing myresearch on the Zyklon B anc it looks like you're totally wrong about the ww2 gas.

 

[Aap]

Lol. Pro life.

I'm confused by your post. Are you seriously arguing against the holocaust, or that the gassing was peaceful? I'll discuss one but not debate the other. I'm happy to provide references to first hand accounts or a federal court case on the gas chamber. I really hope you aren't arguing the Holocaust. If you mistake me for pro life, then I question your judgement in any case.

 

[Umbrellaterm]

Lol. Pro life.

I'm confused by your post. Are you seriously arguing against the holocaust, or that the gassing was peaceful? I'll discuss one but not debate the other. I'm happy to provide references to first hand accounts or a federal court case on the gas chamber. I really hope you aren't arguing the Holocaust. If you mistake me for pro life, then I question your judgement in any case.

It helps if you quote me so I can argue back.

I argue about the peacefulness of HCN which I believe to be instant death.
If you isolate the gas and make sure you inhale a minimum concentration of 300 mg/m^3.

About the holocaust I have my thoughts about it being a conjuncture,but we don't have to discuss that.


I have gathered my evidence in this thread:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ceipe-painless-death.44633/page-2#post-975731

 

[Aap]

What the hell are you arguing? I agree with your quoted statement:

"So to answer your question, Zyklon B was very painful, Carbon Monoxide may have been less painful but was equally as awful and for those victims caught within these chambers, knowing that they were going to die and watching those around them descend into mindless savagery due to terror, it was likely as close to any version of hell as you can imagine.""

I'm literally unable to understand what your point of contention is.

 

[Umbrellaterm]

What the hell are you arguing

From your texts you seem to be attacking the method of using HCN as a means of suicide since you think it's painful?

BOTTOM LINE
You can't compare cyanide with ww2 Zyklon B

 

[Aap]

Wait? Do you not know what zyklon B was? What do you think it was?

 

[Umbrellaterm]

Wait? Do you not know what zyklon B was? What do you think it was?

Zyklon B is said to consist of HCN, eye irritant and dirt (with some sort of buffer).

The poison (speaking of HCN alone) is very volatile and deadly, inhaling it will kill you within seconds except when it's at the very low concentration employed by the Nazi's in which case it is reported as taking much longer.

Due to the weak and inconsistent concentration in the gas chambers this could have lasted up to half an hour for the victims. Half an hour of agonising pain whilst those people around you clawed, tore and trampled each other in their fear, pain and horror.

 

[Aap]

Please reread every post I've made in this thread. What part of this do you disagree with?

"It's not that cyanide can't be peaceful and fast, it is the fact it simply is not always so. Deaths can be prolonged and painful. I realize media often portray cyanide as an "off switch" for life. It's not. There are faster, more toxic, and/or more peaceful compounds out there. I'm not suggesting cyanide is a "bad" way to go; I am suggesting there are many better ways. Inert gas is a simple example that is painless and results in reliable and rapid incapacitation in seconds. It's so fast and unassuming, pilots have to be trained to even recognize the effects of hypoxia."

 

[Umbrellaterm]

Inert gas is a simple example that is painless and results in reliable and rapid incapacitation in seconds

Except it's easier to ctb using HCN.

 

[Aap]

Lol. Keep on rocking, friend. That is what you are arguing?
I'll repost this one more time.

"It's not that cyanide can't be peaceful and fast, it is the fact it simply is not always so. Deaths can be prolonged and painful. I realize media often portray cyanide as an "off switch" for life. It's not. There are faster, more toxic, and/or more peaceful compounds out there. I'm not suggesting cyanide is a "bad" way to go; I am suggesting there are many better ways. Inert gas is a simple example that is painless and results in reliable and rapid incapacitation in seconds. It's so fast and unassuming, pilots have to be trained to even recognize the effects of hypoxia."