Ctb w SN Pantoprazole, Propranolol

[Theanswer]

I thought I posted this a bit ago but it's not showing. Here's another try. Will receive my SN on Monday, and am finalizing to ctb within a couple of weeks. Looking for feedback, suggestions. thanks. I've seearched the site and PPeH for these questions but didn't get anything. I know none of us are doctors but just looking for feedback. Sorry for the long post.

1. Antiemetics. I very likely won't receive meto or zofran in time. Plan on using OTC meclizine, suggested by pharmacist as the closest to meto/zofran. And I plan on taking it according to the PPeH, one hour before drinking SN. Any thoughts, experience on OTC antiemetics?

2. Pantoprazole (proton pump inhibitor). Been taking 40 mg pantoprazole daily for over 10 years for acid reflux. I've searched the boards and couldn't find anything about it being an issue with SN doing the job. Didn't find anything in PPeH or Essentials, either. Though the PPeH May 2022 states that benefits of antacids or PPIs cannot be established so is no longer advised. Am I okay with continuing my PPI or should I even increase it? Any thoughts?

3. Indigestion. Last year been suffering from indigestion, blating after eating. Though think it was from emotionally eating large amounts of food at times. Many different tests done, including gastric emptying, and showed nothing. Not so much a problem now. But, sometimes, I take Gaviscon Advanced after eating. I'm thinking I should stop all Gaviscon Advanced now.
Gaviscon Advanced Definition. This product forms a protective layer that floats on top of the stomach contents. This layer prevents reflux and keeps the stomach contents away from the lining of the food pipe to relieve the symptoms of heartburn and acid indigestion.. Gaviscon Advance's extra strength formulation has twice the concentration of sodium alginate - forming a strong and resilient 'raft' in the process.

4. Propranolol. Won't be able to get this for 4 - 6 weeks so not going to be able to include that in the regime. The PPeH Essentials lists 400 mg. Even if I did get it in time, which I wont, that's 40 pills. I'm thinking the less pills in my stomach the better before drinking SN? Going to have to do it without it. Thoughts on doing it without propranolol?

5. Klonapin. I have plenty of Klonapin for anxiety.

 

[8evergo]

I have reflux myself for over 12 years I take patrazole or omeprazole
according to stans guide proton pump inhibitors should not be suitable for sn so i will take rennie or talcid the usual acidic killers
for antimedic i will take mcp

 

[Theanswer]

I have reflux myself for over 12 years I take patrazole or omeprazole
according to stans guide proton pump inhibitors should not be suitable for sn so i will take rennie or talcid the usual acidic killers
for antimedic i will take mcp

Thanks, this is helpful. Some of the things that are in Stan's Guide are the direct opposite of what's listed in the updated PPeH (I'm a subscriber).PPeH says that benefits or negative effects of PPIs or antacids cannot be established so therefore no longer advised. I am going to stop my pantoprazole. I wish I could get the meto, but am glad you have it. I appreciate your response.

 

[8evergo]

Thank you, I wish you good luck I try to go like this in the near future

 

[SofterSoftest]

Thanks, this is helpful. Some of the things that are in Stan's Guide are the direct opposite of what's listed in the updated PPeH (I'm a subscriber).PPeH says that benefits or negative effects of PPIs or antacids cannot be established so therefore no longer advised. I am going to stop my pantoprazole. I wish I could get the meto, but am glad you have it. I appreciate your response.

I have been on pantoprazole for years, and my doctor gave me a prescription for meto quite easily when I said my GERD triggers nausea that the pantoprazole doesn't address very well. I said that I have a friend who has GERD and has found meto quite helpful, and that I would like to try it out myself. This might work for you if you really want to get your hands on meto.

 

[Theanswer]

I have been on pantoprazole for years, and my doctor gave me a prescription for meto quite easily when I said my GERD triggers nausea that the pantoprazole doesn't address very well. I said that I have a friend who has GERD and has found meto quite helpful, and that I would like to try it out myself. This might work for you if you really want to get your hands on meto.

Hmm...I might try it. thanks. Though I read that doctors in the U.S., anyway, are on guard about prescriptions for meto due to it being used to ctb. That's what I read in a search anyway. Could I ask where you are located - in the US? Thanks.

 

[SofterSoftest]

Hmm...I might try it. thanks. Though I read that doctors in the U.S., anyway, are on guard about prescriptions for meto due to it being used to ctb. That's what I read in a search anyway. Could I ask where you are located - in the US? Thanks.

I am in Canada, and it's not too different here. That being said, unless you've actually been hospitalized for CTB attempts in the past, I doubt the meto would raise any suspicions. It's a very, very commonly prescribed drug for GERD- and migraine-related nausea.

 

[Theanswer]

I am in Canada, and it's not too different here. That being said, unless you've actually been hospitalized for CTB attempts in the past, I doubt the meto would raise any suspicions. It's a very, very commonly prescribed drug for GERD- and migraine-related nausea.

It's a great idea. I also had new digestive issues past 8 months or so. Went through many, many tests, scans. Showed nothing so my primary doctor who I've been with for over 10 years knows very well I don't have nausea - not with the new digestive symptoms and never with my GERD. She has asked many times and the specialist also asked - each time me responding no. Primary and I meet everything three or six months, last time was in June. Again, great great idea but I don't think it will fly with doctor, and wouldn't want to raise a flag. She knows my life has been hell, and has asked about self-harm intent before.

 

[keitaro]

if you are in the us, another option would be to try an online clinic (i mean the legitimate ones). there are a few that have different specialties. like, there's one for male issues, which i got a prescription from without having to talk to anyone in person. it was super easy. and i recently found one that specializes in migraines, and it sells meto. i haven't tried ordering from them yet, tho.

 

[Theanswer]

if you are in the us, another option would be to try an online clinic (i mean the legitimate ones). there are a few that have different specialties. like, there's one for male issues, which i got a prescription from without having to talk to anyone in person. it was super easy. and i recently found one that specializes in migraines, and it sells meto. i haven't tried ordering from them yet, tho.

@keitaro Thanks. Could I send you a pm?

 

[keitaro]

@keitaro Thanks. Could I send you a pm?

sure. i will share the name but not the link.
note: to anyone else reading this, please don't request a pm from me about this. sending lots of pm's is annoying. ty.