Venting CTB risk and danger assessments are oftenly done out of "benevolent paternalism"!

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This is not a new topic nor new concept, but I feel that it's worth repeating though, especially given the importance and prevalence of such occurrences that still happen around the world (not just limited to the US, but many other countries too). The issue is pertaining to "benevolent paternalism" by many prohibitions, pro-lifers, and preventionists. By that, I mean they do risk and danger assessments while under the guise of looking out for the individual (they are rather disingenuous and insincere of course), but in reality, they are just looking and fishing for information on said person or individual to intervene against said person or individual to prevent CTB at all costs while disregarding circumstances (let alone or even fixing them) surrounding the person's CTB! Most of the time, the issues that push said person or individual to CTB is glossed over, ignored, downplayed, or even pushed towards the person themselves to resolve. It's not like said preventionist or similar people could solve it either, but they like to keep the person with CTB ideation alive against their will under the guise of 'help', when in reality, it is nothing more than just an overreach and overstep of authority, encroachment and impingement on civil freedoms through deceptive pretenses!

Just for the sake of argument, let's presume they 'fixed' whatever cause for said person/individual to want to CTB. There is the cost (be it trauma, inconvenience, and financial burden (applies to the USA mostly, but any other place/country that charges for such), and social or professional consequences) and is oftenly ignored. This is a factor that is not really discussed enough or only merely mentioned and hand waved away quickly, rather than adequately addressed. Of course, as a result, the said person either later goes on to try again (either with success or not, but mostly failure), or even resign themselves to enduring a sentience that they never wanted, which gives the false impression of recovery or getting better (and sadly, these preventionists use that as evidence to further their narrative, but that's another point for another thread!), which is even more disgusting and vile.

Ultimately, I know of not only how disingenuous these preventionists and pro-lifers, and similar people are, but I often get frustrated and disgusted at how deceptive, dishonest, disingenuous they are! Even if they are confronted (similar to how existentialgoof (user on Reddit) confronts them), they deflect towards justifying their behavior to be benevolent, regardless of the real harm (harm to said person's social reputation, professional life (career or job they had), finances, and/or other civil liberties, and more) done to the individual! In a just society, what these CTB preventionists and similar people would (and should) have been charged with various crimes including harassment, kidnapping, false imprisonment, assault and battery, and even fraud (in some cases), and more, but alas, we don't live in such a world. It is a shame that there isn't real justice and the real victims of these kinds of situation are oftenly the pro-choicers who end up having to go all about it in secrecy (whether it be acquisition of materials for method, planning, waiting and finally attempting, which could either result in success of failure dependent on method choice), while also dealing with existing problems that cause them to want to CTB to begin with!

 

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This is very true. And I would simply call them malevolent. The police and psychotherapism-workers, social workers and lawyers who where involved in my case actually pushed me into CTB. I never had any help in my environment, never had a supportive family and I'm just stigmatized and abandoned as ugly and mentally ill.

They want to kill people like me imo (isolated, victims of hate crimes, poor, female, disabled/ugly) through neglect, police-and psychiatric violence, and character assassination (I never will have a good job ever in a high position because I'm stigmatized as mentally ill so the only work available is real slave-work so I simply can stay poor in Germany with unemployment and receive taxpayer money/government aid until I die or they cut me off for their fun).

In recent months, I have also had several symptoms that point to small heart attacks—especially in women, symptoms are often atypical and as I asked ChatAIbots what these symptoms could be it explained to me that it could be strokes.

I was already feeling very unwell since years before I was caged into psychiatric ward, mostly because of my bad genetics, undiagnosed syndroms and kidneys and thyroid, which I cannot get treated for because medical help is being denied.

Why? I think many of these doctors in health industry here in Germany are Nazis tbh, they dislike poor, disabled women. They looked at me with disgust and simply didn't help me because they find me ugly. The psychiatrist in the institution insulted me openly in front of his co-workers by calling me a parasite. They are allowed to do so much to people like me because we have no rich lobby that protects our human rights.

The reason I try to end my life this year is not because a magical mentall illness (devil and sins for the religious people) hunts and pressures me,
it is definitely because of lack of good friends/family members, purpose, then the memories of the bullying I endure since childhood, – it's hate crime and discrimination. I'm everywere just the ugly and r'tard.
Then poverty, the abuse from the psychiatry-workers including the character assassination as mentally ill, the fact that I still receive no compensation and no medical help for my damaged organs, loneliness and that I have no one to help me. I only get uglier, sicker and older. I have been inside my room for years now and just wait for death and use delivery to get some food and energy drinks.

In 2025 I filed complains about what they did to me and, in general, about the extreme disadvantages I face in life because of my dumb reckless parents– it's just like a form of rape tbh. I am outcasted as ugly and my life is oppressed and destroyed as mentally ill everywhere by ordinary people.
No one cares, no one has supported me ever, and I was just abandoned, they made fun of me and they were cruel, they pathologized my personality and criminalized me– especially because I have disabilities and no rich lobby/family members who care in the backround, no support system.

These people are the same kind of evil as those who supported Hitler back then or took part in the witch hunts (patriarchal).

I also don't believe I will ever receive compensation within this system as long as such people make the desicions. They just let you wither away, and if you try to stand up for yourself, they exploit you again in brothels, psychiatric institutions or prison. They created a lose-lose situation for their victims. When we are alive they oppress us and when we are dead we can't create our own support systems. But I hope that when wer are dead, we no longer suffer from this oppression. It is, of course, sad that we never really had a life because of these predators. I have never had real happy moments.

Some good moments were just like, 'Wow, luckily I don't have to go outside and can play some videogames, because they don't bully me here in my room where I can rot and suffer alone from organic pain and traumatas, because I'm outcasted everywhere and have no rich lobby, no purpose or energy to defend me from the attacks outside,'
This is very true. And I would simply call them malevolent. The police and psychotherapism-workers, social workers and lawyers who where involved in my case actually pushed me into CTB. I never had any help in my environment, never had a supportive family and I'm just stigmatized and abandoned as ugly and mentally ill.

They want to kill people like me imo (isolated, victims of hate crimes, poor, female, disabled/ugly) through neglect, police-and psychiatric violence, and character assassination (I never will have a good job ever in a high position because I'm stigmatized as mentally ill so the only work available is real slave-work so I simply can stay poor in Germany with unemployment and receive taxpayer money/government aid until I die or they cut me off for their fun).

In recent months, I have also had several symptoms that point to small heart attacks—especially in women, symptoms are often atypical and as I asked ChatAIbots what these symptoms could be it explained to me that it could be strokes.

I was already feeling very unwell since years before I was caged into psychiatric ward, mostly because of my bad genetics, undiagnosed syndroms and kidneys and thyroid, which I cannot get treated for because medical help is being denied.

Why? I think many of these doctors in health industry here in Germany are Nazis tbh, they dislike poor, disabled women. They looked at me with disgust and simply didn't help me because they find me ugly. The psychiatrist in the institution insulted me openly in front of his co-workers by calling me a parasite. They are allowed to do so much to people like me because we have no rich lobby that protects our human rights.

The reason I try to end my life this year is not because a magical mentall illness (devil and sins for the religious people) hunts and pressures me,
it is definitely because of lack of good friends/family members, purpose, then the memories of the bullying I endure since childhood, – it's hate crime and discrimination. I'm everywere just the ugly and r'tard.
Then poverty, the abuse from the psychiatry-workers including the character assassination as mentally ill, the fact that I still receive no compensation and no medical help for my damaged organs, loneliness and that I have no one to help me. I only get uglier, sicker and older. I have been inside my room for years now and just wait for death and use delivery to get some food and energy drinks.

In 2025 I filed complains about what they did to me and, in general, about the extreme disadvantages I face in life because of my dumb reckless parents– it's just like a form of rape tbh. I am outcasted as ugly and my life is oppressed and destroyed as mentally ill everywhere by ordinary people.
No one cares, no one has supported me ever, and I was just abandoned, they made fun of me and they were cruel, they pathologized my personality and criminalized me– especially because I have disabilities and no rich lobby/family members who care in the backround, no support system.

These people are the same kind of evil as those who supported Hitler back then or took part in the witch hunts (patriarchal).

I also don't believe I will ever receive compensation within this system as long as such people make the desicions. They just let you wither away, and if you try to stand up for yourself, they exploit you again in brothels, psychiatric institutions or prison. They created a lose-lose situation for their victims. When we are alive they oppress us and when we are dead we can't create our own support systems. But I hope that when wer are dead, we no longer suffer from this oppression. It is, of course, sad that we never really had a life because of these predators. I have never had real happy moments.

Some good moments were just like, 'Wow, luckily I don't have to go outside and can play some videogames, because they don't bully me here in my room where I can rot and suffer alone from organic pain and traumatas, because I'm outcasted everywhere and have no rich lobby, and no purpose or energy to defend me from the attacks outside,'