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[IncrediblePal]

I like that Pal was duly ignored above.

I just left them all speechless. That's all.

That analysis forgets one simple fact: humans trend towards order. I can't believe I have to say this, but recall Twitch Plays Pokémon. Watch the trend continue.

Sorry to break it to you but that example doesn't work here at all.

Also, who's to say if we went up by thousands of numbers incorrectly, we did not also go down by thousands incorrectly?

I'm gonna prove how this question is fundamentally wrong in a few arguments. But first, here is a spreadsheet that I created. Only has data upto 100,000 mark (Page 3700).

1) U and D
U here is the total number of up-counts and D is the total number of down-counts. Sum of U and D is the total number of posts in this thread (146,039) and their difference is the current count (130,782). Since TE (Total number of posts in this thread) is increasing linearly, U and D should also go up in a straight line.
Here is a chart of U (Y axis) against number of pages (X axis):


A very straight looking line. I'd give that a 9 out of 10.
And now here is a chart of D (Y axis) against the same x axis:


oof. Not a very straight line, is it? In a fair game, the line would move up in a slope. Just like TE or U. In a game where everyone is counting up, you'd see a horizontal line instead. But this line follows none of these trends. But forget of all that. This line is also going downwards. That should NEVER happen. The previous down-counts do not just disappear out of nowhere.
Okay let's investigate the first dip in that line. It goes down for just a little bit, can't be that bad, right?

Well well. Some quick math was done there. And it is not like they were counting fast and had a little woopsy daisy moment. The first and the last post in that image is 30 minutes apart.
If you consult the spreadsheet, before this skip, 22 - 30% of the posts were counting downwards. After the skip? -1.28%. Yup little d is in negatives. It took down-counters 150-200 pages to recover from that but the momentum was already lost.
Just go to any of the pages where the D line starts to go down. Up counters have done some quick math on those pages as well.

2) CE>TE
As I've said before, TE = total number of posts and CE = Current Count.
TE = U + D
CE = U - D
So naturally, CE can never be greater than TE. It can be equal to TE if all of the players are counting up and no one is counting down. But CE can never be greater than TE at any point. But if you go to around page 150, you'd see that the count there is greater than the number of posts by that point. That should be impossible if everyone is just counting up or down by 1. The MPE of that same page is 3181. Meaning the maximum possible count by that point should be 3181, if we are assuming that everyone since the last 50 pages has been counting up and no one has counted down. But CE of that page is a whopping 4615. That's a difference of 1434 if no down-count is assumed. But realistically, it is close to 2000+

3) D and MPE
From the spreadsheet, the value of D fluctuates a lot. it should only go up but it keeping coming down. In the spreadsheet with 75 entries, it goes down 14 times. And that only happens when a large amount of numbers are skipped. Small skips that are less than 100 are not detectable here. Column D and E are highlighted red whenever the conditional $D3<$D2/$E3<$E2 holds true. How many times does that happen for D? 14 times. How many times does that condition hold true for U? Zero times. That should answer your question @U. A.
As stated before, MPE is the maximum possible value if the players have only been counting up and no one has been counting down for the last 50 pages. MPE is highlighted red whenever the value of CE is greater than its own. And that only happens a total of 14 times. But if we assume that 5-10% of the posts in MPE are down-counts, the whole chart starts glowing red. Even though this spreadsheet only goes to 100,000, up-counters here are still not counting right. If we assume that everyone has been counting up since the 100,000 mark, we should be at ~132830 count by now. Which is very close to our current count.

I have more to talk about but sadly this stupid site only allows 4 attachments per post.
And I have one attachment left.

One of the things spreadsheet cannot show is the multiposting. Which was unfortunately all too common before the posts started merging together.

 

[U. A.]

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I applaud. But...how..did you do this? I'll give you the points on the math and data; given this specific history

that example doesn't work here at all

but you can't deny that overall it still holds on the whole. TPP is undeniable; order trumps chaos when there is a goal, and if the will of the majority is the nebulous goal of "go higher", well...

And similarly

this question is fundamentally wrong in a few arguments.

from a purely logic standpoint, it's still valid; "fundamentally" is a stretch. This phenomenon could very well have also gone in the other direction, theoretically.

That aside, well done.

 

[boddibo]

130,786

 

[U. A.]

absolutely no fucking reaction of any kind from b lmao

130,787

 

[NoPoint2Life]

130,788
Now that @IncrediblePal ,I can assure you I did not and will not be reading

 

[mjolnir]

130.789

 

[boddibo]

130,790
with 5h of sleep in 2 days I honestly can't have any reaction lmao @U. A.