Constant failure posts but keeping the faith in the method

[Banshee]

I'm actually surprised at how many people want to choose SN as their method.

 

[jessisme]

I'm actually surprised at how many people want to choose SN as their method.

Probably because it's cheap, it's accessible and, with all the possibilities for discomfort and error, it seems to really work.

 

[tilly17]

I have everything apart from pph recommended amount of benzos because the amount is to insane.

apart from that I have a box of dizapam 5mg some Alprazolam (only a packet again)
Meto
100grams of sn (2 50g bags sealed from ic)
Scale
50ml little cups to measure the water out quickly 3 cups for my sn
Scale (though in thory since each bag is 50g i shouldn't need it since I just put half one bag each cup still plan to use the scale.
And some 500mg paracetamol

And your right it isn't good to read threads that have failures and inconsistencys but they have scared me more then I wish I do plan to make 3 cups about 27g each since I'm a little over weight and have the extra.

I don't really understand why so many people in these threads have stayed conusiness so long and been in so much seemingly agony for some.

I knew it would be uncomftable but I had convinced myself I'd be out before it got anywhere near unbearable on the pain scale and assumed I'd just be a little uncomftable.

The recent threads have shattered that illusion for me sadly

Same here! Scared to death of not going unconscious and how uncomfortable the process will be…& Of Course failure that's just not an option as I couldn't go through it twice! Non stop Vomiting is the worst too!
How are you getting the courage to go through with it? The more I learn the more I fear how I'll react

 

[Judy Garland]

Would you be planning to use olanzapine as and AE? I have olanzapine anyway and I read somewhere on here stans guide possibly that it could be used as replacement for meto.

I am planning on using Olanzapine as my AE. It's in the PPH that it is ok to use in place of meto.

 

[Sadgirldaisy]

How much of the olanzapine would you take in place of the meto? How much meto would you need? I'm not sure which one is more accessible to me.
Also, does anyone have the link for Stan's guide? I can't find it

 

[Mofreeko]

I'm actually surprised at how many people want to choose SN as their method.

I'll tell you the reasons I'm using SN as my method:

It has two mechanisms for knocking you out (drastically dropping your blood pressure and depriving your brain of oxygen. (https://archive.ph/Ras43#selection-511.77-511.152)

75% of all suicide attempts are by drug overdose, a method that is often thwarted because the drug is nonlethal, or is used at a nonlethal dosage. These people survive 97% of the time. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attempt)
SN success rate is much MUCH higher than that. (https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/i...deploy/ijerph-19-13996.pdf?version=1666871277)

The most common symptoms of SN are Nausea, vomiting, tachycardia (fast heartbeat)and headache (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/) These symptoms are definitely not fun, but if you can't endure being uncomfortable while you're trying to literally die then your options are going to be severely limited.

Anyway, I think you're being short sighted to overlook the many valid reasons people choose SN as their method. In my opinion it's foolish to make your mind up about any method just based on a few posts strangers made about it without studying the method yourself.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I'll tell you the reasons I'm using SN as my method:

It has two mechanisms for knocking you out (drastically dropping your blood pressure and depriving your brain of oxygen. (https://archive.ph/Ras43#selection-511.77-511.152)

75% of all suicide attempts are by drug overdose, a method that is often thwarted because the drug is nonlethal, or is used at a nonlethal dosage. These people survive 97% of the time. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attempt)
SN success rate is much MUCH higher than that. (https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/i...deploy/ijerph-19-13996.pdf?version=1666871277)

The most common symptoms of SN are Nausea, vomiting, tachycardia (fast heartbeat)and headache (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/) These symptoms are definitely not fun, but if you can't endure being uncomfortable while you're trying to literally die then your options are going to be severely limited.

Anyway, I think you're being short sighted to overlook the many valid reasons people choose SN as their method. In my opinion it's foolish to make your mind up about any method just based on a few posts strangers made about it without studying the method yourself.

I think you should just give up at educating people atp. If people want to question sn's legitimacy over a couple of sus threads, let them. Perhaps they are trying to find excuses not to CTB, in which case, they should try to recover.

 

[Mofreeko]

I think you should just give up at educating people atp. If people want to question sn's legitimacy over a couple of sus threads, let them. Perhaps they are trying to find excuses not to CTB, in which case, they should try to recover.

I was actually very anti SN before I took the time to learn on my own what it was and how it worked. I think it's worth the effort if it helps even 1 person.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I was actually very anti SN before I took the time to learn on my own what it was and how it worked. I think it's worth the effort if it helps even 1 person.

You have more patience than i do then lol

 

[Idontmatter]

Well I have just over a week left until I ctb with sn if everything goes as planned. I'm expecting to be one of the successful sn users.

 

[Banshee]

Probably because it's cheap, it's accessible and, with all the possibilities for discomfort and error, it seems to really work.

Judging by the 100's of "anyone know where to get SN?" posts every week, makes it seem like it's in fact not that easily accessible nor does the continuous SN failure posts; including the people that claim they followed the instructions to a "t". Also, there has been reports and posts of people being in pain and agony after ingesting the SN which also seems as though its not as peaceful it appears.

If you live in North America, getting a firearm is much easier than acquiring SN, and if you live planet earth, acquiring a rope is even more accessible. Both of those methods are much more quick and painless when done properly.

I'll tell you the reasons I'm using SN as my method:

It has two mechanisms for knocking you out (drastically dropping your blood pressure and depriving your brain of oxygen. (https://archive.ph/Ras43#selection-511.77-511.152)

75% of all suicide attempts are by drug overdose, a method that is often thwarted because the drug is nonlethal, or is used at a nonlethal dosage. These people survive 97% of the time. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attempt)
SN success rate is much MUCH higher than that. (https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/i...deploy/ijerph-19-13996.pdf?version=1666871277)

The most common symptoms of SN are Nausea, vomiting, tachycardia (fast heartbeat)and headache (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/) These symptoms are definitely not fun, but if you can't endure being uncomfortable while you're trying to literally die then your options are going to be severely limited.

Anyway, I think you're being short sighted to overlook the many valid reasons people choose SN as their method. In my opinion it's foolish to make your mind up about any method just based on a few posts strangers made about it without studying the method yourself.

I'm not referring to the success rate of it, which is something that is plagued by countless failure posts on SS (yes, I realize that's just posts made by strangers).

I'm referring to acquiring it. If it was as easy as people think it is to get, there wouldn't be 100's posts and comments of people asking how and where to get it; also the numerous posts of DEA and law enforcement showing up at people's doors isn't such a fun idea either.

I think you should just give up at educating people atp. If people want to question sn's legitimacy over a couple of sus threads, let them. Perhaps they are trying to find excuses not to CTB, in which case, they should try to recover.

The couple of "sus threads" is literally 100's of posts and comments a week about people asking where to get it, ctb failures, law enforcement showing up to their doors, purity checks, etc.. So yeah, pretty sure questioning it is a legitimate thing to do.

Those are the reasons I stated my first comment. Also, I already have guns and on top of that I'm not one of those people that are so useless that I can't acquire a rope if I need one.

 

[jessisme]

Judging by the 100's of "anyone know where to get SN?" posts every week, makes it seem like it's in fact not that easily accessible nor does the continuous SN failure posts; including the people that claim they followed the instructions to a "t". Also, there has been reports and posts of people being in pain and agony after ingesting the SN which also seems as though its not as peaceful it appears.

If you live in North America, getting a firearm is much easier than acquiring SN, and if you live planet earth, acquiring a rope is even more accessible. Both of those methods are much more quick and painless when done properly.

I'm not referring to the success rate of it, which is something that is plagued by countless failure posts on SS (yes, I realize that's just posts made by strangers).

I'm referring to acquiring it. If it was as easy as people think it is to get, there wouldn't be 100's posts and comments of people asking how and where to get it; also the numerous posts of DEA and law enforcement showing up at people's doors isn't such a fun idea either.

The couple of "sus threads" is literally 100's of posts and comments a week about people asking where to get it, ctb failures, law enforcement showing up to their doors, purity checks, etc.. So yeah, pretty sure questioning it is a legitimate thing to do.

Those are the reasons I stated my first comment. Also, I already have guns and on top of that I'm not one of those people that are so useless that I can't acquire a rope if I need one.

I live in the US and I was able to acquire SN after a few hours searching sources online.

 

[Banshee]

I live in the US and I was able to acquire SN after a few hours searching sources online.

Cool! I was able to get my Glock in 4 minutes. What is your point?

 

[jessisme]

Cool! I was able to get my Glock in 4 minutes. What is your point?

You said that it is difficult to acquire SN. It's not. You can order it in a few clicks and have it delivered to your door. For those who don't want a violent death it's a very good option.

 

[damaged_soul]

I just saw it when I searched for it. I'm going to try that. The quicker I fall asleep the better

Me too. I have faith in our plan. Plus my gut instinct is that this is the right decision.
I also have Propranolol. I might use that. It didn't seem like it was mandatory according to Stan's Guide but I'm wondering if we use that if it might increase our chances for success

Someone told me that propranolol significantly increases chances of success with SN. I think that would make sense, especially since in my last ctb attempt my heart rate shot up to a crazy high level which caused a lot of discomfort and contributed to my decision to stop the attempt. It's much easier to get propranolol than benzos. I just got some last week from an online pharmacy without a prescription.

I had planned to send someone a delayed email after taking

Please don't do that, they will call the cops on you and then your attempt will fail

I've overstayed my welcome.

Same. I've way, way, WAY overstayed my welcome. My ctb is extremely overdue. I was supposed to be gone years ago but I am too much of a pathetic coward to ctb properly.

I will probably have bouts of loosing vision, loosing hearing and experiencing the brain shutting down.

That sounds scary but I try to remind myself that it would be similar to falling asleep. I experience those things sometimes when I'm falling asleep, so death isn't such a big deal.

 

[Banshee]

You said that it is difficult to acquire SN. It's not. You can order it in a few clicks and have it delivered to your door. For those who don't want a violent death it's a very good option.

It can be difficult for some people. Sure, you find a source online, click, order, and wait for it to show up. That's find and dandy, but what isn't so pleasant is when the DEA shows up to your door demanding for you to hand over your SN. It's been widely reported that people have been having law enforcement showing up to their house, simply for buying a powder people use to make sausages and cured meats lol.

All I'm saying is that SN sounds good on paper. But what I've seen on here (unless you think ever single person on here is full of shit) is that there has been more people that have attempted and returned to post than there has been people that attempted and never posted again. On top of that there has been the countless people that have attempted and according to them, followed the directions perfectly and still ended up living and having to go to the hospital because they got violently sick.

I think anyone one should pick and choose their method how they please but me personally, after reading what literal SS members have tried/claimed/failed with SN, I'd place it low high tier of methods, even below jumping.