Constant failure posts but keeping the faith in the method

[Idontmatter]

We go from seeing multiple sn successes to multiple failures. I'm still keeping my faith in the method even though reading the failures are increasing my anxiety. We are going through the protocol step by step. We for sure have an ae that's on the list but still trying to get benzos. Failure is not an option.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yes, I know what you mean. It is scary. I'm not sure if/when my time will be but my method is still SN for now. I think adhering to the protocol seems very wise. Careful measurement, downing the mixture in one, proper fasting, second glass prepared... No alcohol. Reckon I'd do that lying on your right side thing too- so hopefully it's better aligned with the stomach sphincter. I'm even thinking the 3 day protocol might be wise- build up enough meto in the system.

Sad part is- everything and any method still caries a risk of failure. It's always going to be a risk- we can only try and minimize it. I'm glad you have found a partner. Hopefully you can support each other and make sure you are doing things step by step.

 

[HerculePoirot]

Just two remarks.

1) this avalanche of failure posts is obviously not the fruit of chance. That would be statistically impossible.

2) most, if not all, have something in common: the recommended protocol has not been followed.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

The failure posts are from two people who did not follow protocol and were inconsistent with the info they gave.

They are idiots who might be lying to scare people out of using sn.

The more you people let them plant doubts in your mind, the more they will be encouraged to post here.

 

[Idontmatter]

The failure posts are from two people who did not follow protocol and were inconsistent with the info they gave.

They are idiots who might be lying to scare people out of using sn.

The more you people let him plant doubts in your mind, the more they will be encouraged to post here.

Very true

 

[yuzuchan]

The failure posts have scared me shirtless I plan to go before new year and have everything except the pph amount of benzos I have a packet of 5mg dizapam and thats it

 

[Idontmatter]

The failure posts have scared me shirtless I plan to go before new year and have everything except the pph amount of benzos I have a packet of 5mg dizapam and thats it

I'm thinking positive. My ctb partner and I are using the same sn and it's a good brand here in the US. My challenge is trying to get through my final 2 weeks. At least I have some time with my husband before I'm gone.

Yes, I know what you mean. It is scary. I'm not sure if/when my time will be but my method is still SN for now. I think adhering to the protocol seems very wise. Careful measurement, downing the mixture in one, proper fasting, second glass prepared... No alcohol. Reckon I'd do that lying on your right side thing too- so hopefully it's better aligned with the stomach sphincter. I'm even thinking the 3 day protocol might be wise- build up enough meto in the system.

Sad part is- everything and any method still caries a risk of failure. It's always going to be a risk- we can only try and minimize it. I'm glad you have found a partner. Hopefully you can support each other and make sure you are doing things step by step.

I was wondering if I should lay on my side, it looks like I should I guess. I always sleep on my side that actually works out.

 

[yuzuchan]

I'm thinking positive. My ctb partner and I are using the same sn and it's a good brand here in the US. My challenge is trying to get through my final 2 weeks. At least I have some time with my husband before I'm gone.

I was wondering if I should lay on my side, it looks like I should I guess. I always sleep on my side that actually works out.

I've read somewhere that laying on your (i think right side)
Speeds the process. was on a thread here and I don't have a source to the thread

 

[purplehearted]

There's a link of documented successes and failures floating around on here. From reading those the success rate is high and most people who fail didn't follow the protocol including the recent posts. So i think it's still a good method

 

[Idontmatter]

I've read somewhere that laying on your (i think right side)
Speeds the process but it was in there and I don't have a source to the thread

I just saw it when I searched for it. I'm going to try that. The quicker I fall asleep the better

There's a link of documented successes and failures floating around on here. From reading those the success rate is high and most people who fail didn't follow the protocol including the recent posts. So i think it's still a good method

Me too. I have faith in our plan. Plus my gut instinct is that this is the right decision.
I also have Propranolol. I might use that. It didn't seem like it was mandatory according to Stan's Guide but I'm wondering if we use that if it might increase our chances for success

 

[yuzuchan]

I just saw it when I searched for it. I'm going to try that. The quicker I fall asleep the better

Me too. I have faith in our plan. Plus my gut instinct is that this is the right decision.
I also have Propranolol. I might use that. It didn't seem like it was mandatory according to Stan's Guide but I'm wondering if we use that if it might increase our chances for success

I have marpahns syndrome and have propranolol but its years out of date so idk what effects it would have taken it now so while i put it with the mix of meds I was gonna take and try research later ill proablt leave it.

I was confident in my plan ill admit my confidence has been shaken I have two bags of sn from ic still unopened 100g

I've taken the bag out and just starred at it a few times I had planned to send someone a delayed email after taking but I'm not confident anymore in doing so I'm not really sure how to go about regaining any confidence tbh

 

[👁️👃👁️]

If you really dig into all of these threads there's a reason why they failed every single time.

 

[Idontmatter]

If you really dig into all of these threads there's a reason why they failed every single time.

Yes- looks like either not following protocol or calling for help. Plus not having good sn. I'm excited to do my ctb. I'm ready to finally end it and sn still is the best one for me with some minor discomforts. I've overstayed my welcome.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

Yes- looks like either not following protocol or calling for help. Plus not having good sn. I'm excited to do my ctb. I'm ready to finally end it and sn still is the best one for me with some minor discomforts. I've overstayed my welcome.

Please don't be so hard on yourself. You're welcome here and you're welcome in my space anytime.

 

[Idontmatter]

Please don't be so hard on yourself. You're welcome here and you're welcome in my space anytime.

Thank you. I just always feel in the way especially now that I don't leave the bed unless I'm going to work. I'm not going to lie, I'm nervous as shit to ctb but I'm excited also and ready to go. I don't care about discomfort as long as the sn process kills me.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

Thank you. I just always feel in the way especially now that I don't leave the bed unless I'm going to work. I'm not going to lie, I'm nervous as shit to ctb but I'm excited also and ready to go. I don't care about discomfort as long as the sn process kills me.

Understand. You have every reason to feel that way. I just hope this is truly what you want.

 

[stilhavinightmares]

Personally I don't understand how anyone who takes >10g of SN would live without calling for help or being found. Of course there are always outliers but I've already been an outlier living through my past serious attempts, so I have faith in this.

 

[Idontmatter]

Understand. You have every reason to feel that way. I just hope this is truly what you want.

I've wanted this for a while. I just kept delaying in case I found some hope somewhere. Sadly I've given up and my motivation is gone. I'm sick of doctors. It's time for me to go and I have a ctb partner who is going through the exact same thing. I hope my family won't hate me and will forgive me. I have too much self hatred to forgive myself. I'm set on my decision this time.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

I've wanted this for a while. I just kept delaying in case I found some hope somewhere. Sadly I've given up and my motivation is gone. I'm sick of doctors. It's time for me to go and I have a ctb partner who is going through the exact same thing. I hope my family won't hate me and will forgive me. I have too much self hatred to forgive myself. I'm set on my decision this time.

It sucks.. it really does.

If y'all wanna swing by and pick me up let me know.

 

[Idontmatter]

Understand. You have every reason to feel that way. I just hope this is truly what you want.

My worry of failure is amplified because I have a ctb partner but we are following the protocol and we will be working to together in weighing and mixing the sn. Hopefully since I have sn from DD we won't have any issues.

It sucks.. it really does.

If y'all wanna swing by and pick me up let me know.

I've really enjoyed talking to you. There are a few people off here that I will really miss.
I might do a goodbye thread the day of. Nit sure if anyone would be interested. I was thinking of doing a delayed post and having it go out after I've passed away.

 

[yuzuchan]

I've thought about making a goodbye thread too only so I can maybe make it onto the list of success stories while doing step by step pics of opening the bag and preparing the sn to show as much legitimacy as possible.

But at the same time I've practically not talked to anyone here so it wouldn't be as personal for me as proably anyone else here

 

[Idontmatter]

I've thought about making a goodbye thread too only so I can maybe make it onto the list of success stories while doing step by step pics of opening the bag and preparing the sn to show as much legitimacy as possible.

But at the same time I've practically not talked to anyone here so it wouldn't be as personal for me as proably anyone else here

I think I'm just going to make a quick post and have it be sent out after I'm gone. The day I ctb I'll be so concentrated on the day and making sure everything is right.

 

[FuneralCry]

So many have succeeded with SN after all so it's a reliable method. In my opinion, I think that it won't achieve anything reading posts like that, the fact is that if done correctly SN kills people, it's a poison after all. Those who have everything that they need to ctb with this method right now are lucky.

 

[yuzuchan]

So many have succeeded with SN after all so it's a reliable method. In my opinion, I think that it won't achieve anything reading posts like that, the fact is that if done correctly SN kills people, it's a poison after all. Those who have everything that they need to ctb with this method right now are lucky.

I have everything apart from pph recommended amount of benzos because the amount is to insane.

apart from that I have a box of dizapam 5mg some Alprazolam (only a packet again)
Meto
100grams of sn (2 50g bags sealed from ic)
Scale
50ml little cups to measure the water out quickly 3 cups for my sn
Scale (though in thory since each bag is 50g i shouldn't need it since I just put half one bag each cup still plan to use the scale.
And some 500mg paracetamol

And your right it isn't good to read threads that have failures and inconsistencys but they have scared me more then I wish I do plan to make 3 cups about 27g each since I'm a little over weight and have the extra.

I don't really understand why so many people in these threads have stayed conusiness so long and been in so much seemingly agony for some.

I knew it would be uncomftable but I had convinced myself I'd be out before it got anywhere near unbearable on the pain scale and assumed I'd just be a little uncomftable.

The recent threads have shattered that illusion for me sadly

 

[Wannagonow]

The failure posts are from two people who did not follow protocol and were inconsistent with the info they gave.

They are idiots who might be lying to scare people out of using sn.

The more you people let them plant doubts in your mind, the more they will be encouraged to post here.

Yes. Agree 100%

 

[Jarni]

While I know there's just people who don't follow protocol, I also wonder how much of it is possible psyop. Not to sound like I'm huffing some kind of shit, but I know for a fact governments or groups do infiltrate communities to influence behavior. They can't ban SN, but they can make people think it doesn't reliably work.

In this case they'd said that they took 25g/50ml SN, with all less or more needed (PPH changed so much,we are sure for SN only) and failed. And with 2d class after throwing up, of corse. But it is not the case at all.

 

[Judy Garland]

I have everything apart from pph recommended amount of benzos because the amount is to insane.

apart from that I have a box of dizapam 5mg some Alprazolam (only a packet again)
Meto
100grams of sn (2 50g bags sealed from ic)
Scale
50ml little cups to measure the water out quickly 3 cups for my sn
Scale (though in thory since each bag is 50g i shouldn't need it since I just put half one bag each cup still plan to use the scale.
And some 500mg paracetamol

And your right it isn't good to read threads that have failures and inconsistencys but they have scared me more then I wish I do plan to make 3 cups about 27g each since I'm a little over weight and have the extra.

I don't really understand why so many people in these threads have stayed conusiness so long and been in so much seemingly agony for some.

I knew it would be uncomftable but I had convinced myself I'd be out before it got anywhere near unbearable on the pain scale and assumed I'd just be a little uncomftable.

The recent threads have shattered that illusion for me sadly

My illusions are shattered too. I'm getting used to the idea that I could suffer though. So I'm not totally backing out. I hope I have the strength to go through with it on my planned date. I'm getting used to the fact that if I don't pass out early enough, I will probably have bouts of loosing vision, loosing hearing and experiencing the brain shutting down.

I know 3 people IRL that succeeded with SN, two without any kind of supplemental medication. So I'm pretty confident SN will be lethal, but it will likely be very uncomfortable. I have everything but I only have 7mg of valium, trying to get more benzos to hopefully smooth out the ride a bit.

7mg of valium is better than nothing. I don't have any of that. All I have is the Olanzapine and that's it. I'm starting to accept that it may not be a smooth ride. Hopefully better than the time I drank engine coolant to try to kill myself.

 

[zeenatax]

Me too. The failures make me nervous but I see more success than failures. There is no 100% success in anything. We have to take what we have.

 

[theboy]

peace!

 

[Raven2]

7mg of valium is better than nothing. I don't have any of that. All I have is the Olanzapine and that's it. I'm starting to accept that it may not be a smooth ride. Hopefully better than the time I drank engine coolant to try to kill myself.

Would you be planning to use olanzapine as and AE? I have olanzapine anyway and I read somewhere on here stans guide possibly that it could be used as replacement for meto.