NSFW Conflicting feelings about keeping my penis

[bankai]

I'm not touching this thread. I've already got a warning for posting in a thread about God..


God sure

 

[HouseofMortok]

everything I am offering is for the betterment of society and to try to save a spot for my salvation.

God or not. This attitude ^ = Salvation.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

By the title of the post you can probably assume I feel inadequate or something but no this isn't about that. I was reading the Bible and I remember a verse from Mathew 5:30 that made me question a couple things about myself. After reading it I had the thought to cut off my penis but then I thought that "hey maybe that verse is just Jesus using a metaphor" or atleast I made excuses saying that. Many people argue with me by saying the Bible has tons of crazy rules like you cant wear androgynous clothing or you have to marry your rapist but all the crazy verses are from the old testament and for the most part Christians don't have to follow that. Now the old testament we take as a parable and parts of it as law. Surprisingly enough, Jesus was actually very loose with the laws he passed onto man. Most of the anti gay speech or mysiogonistic verses were handed down by Paul and John. But the verse I remember from Jesus as a rule of thumb was Matthew 5:30

"And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell."

I know I struggle with masturbation and so it made since I should cut off my penis, I probably won't but just think of how silly it would be to risk your eternal salvation for something as mortal as a dick? Plus I'm Ace so it's not like I have any reproductive use for it anyway. I found out how I could do it on quora, apparently a rubber band and dry ice could do the trick since I would need to cut off blood circulation to my member and possibly freeze it before cutting. Now of course IF I did do this I would need to treat myself somehow but that would be pointless too because I would still need to self immolate at one point. Now this would also have to include my left hand and if I go by his exact words my right eye must go too. If I can find someone willing to do that surgically then those parts would be gone in an instant. Of course these thoughts or just thoughts and I have a feeling that Jesus is being hyperbolic but if God tells me to do it then I do it without a single question asked.

You need to cut off the Bible !!!!

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

Just eat plain kellog's cereals, they were literally made to help people not masturbate. I'm assuming the constant torture of boring ass cereal and the longing for any kind of flavour whatsoever should distract you long enough to not think about snip snip.

 

[Cyagangy]

Just eat plain kellog's cereals, they were literally made to help people not masturbate. I'm assuming the constant torture of boring ass cereal and the longing for any kind of flavour whatsoever should distract you long enough to not think about snip snip.

I know this is a tad ironic coming from me but Kellogg was a dumbass and a bit of a loon by today's standards.

 

[davidtorez]

Why anyone would listen to a book that endorses slavery and killing people and stealing little virgin girls to have their way with , is beyond me quite frankly. If God is jesus and jesus is God then it logically follows that jesus also condoned these actions

 

[Stan Swiftie]

By the title of the post you can probably assume I feel inadequate or something but no this isn't about that. I was reading the Bible and I remember a verse from Mathew 5:30 that made me question a couple things about myself. After reading it I had the thought to cut off my penis but then I thought that "hey maybe that verse is just Jesus using a metaphor" or atleast I made excuses saying that. Many people argue with me by saying the Bible has tons of crazy rules like you cant wear androgynous clothing or you have to marry your rapist but all the crazy verses are from the old testament and for the most part Christians don't have to follow that. Now the old testament we take as a parable and parts of it as law. Surprisingly enough, Jesus was actually very loose with the laws he passed onto man. Most of the anti gay speech or mysiogonistic verses were handed down by Paul and John. But the verse I remember from Jesus as a rule of thumb was Matthew 5:30

"And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell."

I know I struggle with masturbation and so it made since I should cut off my penis, I probably won't but just think of how silly it would be to risk your eternal salvation for something as mortal as a dick? Plus I'm Ace so it's not like I have any reproductive use for it anyway. I found out how I could do it on quora, apparently a rubber band and dry ice could do the trick since I would need to cut off blood circulation to my member and possibly freeze it before cutting. Now of course IF I did do this I would need to treat myself somehow but that would be pointless too because I would still need to self immolate at one point. Now this would also have to include my left hand and if I go by his exact words my right eye must go too. If I can find someone willing to do that surgically then those parts would be gone in an instant. Of course these thoughts or just thoughts and I have a feeling that Jesus is being hyperbolic but if God tells me to do it then I do it without a single question asked.

Oh for crying out loud!
Don't read the Bible!
It's depressing & makes everything worse.
God's an Asshole & Jesus, since He's God, really isn't any better.
Judgemental Assholes
That's ALL They are

 

[Pale_Rider]

Idk what that verse means , but God gave you that penis. Keep it. At least don't hack it off by yourself with a Google recipe.

 

[Cyagangy]

Oh for crying out loud!
Don't read the Bible!
It's depressing & makes everything worse.
God's an Asshole & Jesus, since He's God, really isn't any better.
Judgemental Assholes
That's ALL They are

Jesus was like the opposite of an asshole gang. Even if you discount the Bible historically speaking as a real person Jesus and his crucification happened. Paul has letters talking about this guy that is really kind and religious like all other guys and other people also mention him and his story. God being an asshole is very subjective especially if you take into account that we as a species have had or done worse things then ik directly.

 

[Stan Swiftie]

Jesus isn't an asshole? He says if we THINK something it's the same as DOING it. And since we can't control what we think half the time, it sounds assholish to me. Sorry.
God created us to be the way we are, then judges us & punishes us for being that way. Again... Asshole.
Again... Sorry.

 

[Cyagangy]

Jesus isn't an asshole? He says if we THINK something it's the same as DOING it. And since we can't control what we think half the time, it sounds assholish to me. Sorry.
God created us to be the way we are, then judges us & punishes us for being that way. Again... Asshole.
Again... Sorry.

You don't think that maybe Jesus was being hyperbolic? Obviously God and his apostles won't consider intrusive thoughts to be sin but more so it leads into it. That's why John compares hatred to murder which makes sense considering how one leads to the other. God gave man free will, he placed judgment unto us and then what we do is the same. We judge people quickly for there actions, such as abusers,murderers, thieves. Man truly is the creation of God, calling him an asshole is the same as calling us an asshole so I guess to some degree you are right. But at least God judges fairly by his own measure. Barely 400 years ago if you stole something like bread you would get an arm cut off, now if you steal bread you go to jail for like 3 days.

 

[HouseofMortok]

Wait til you find out about Jesus, snake venom, little boys and sperm.

I'd of crucified the fucker too.

 

[yowai]

Religion and obsessing about being pure and all good like an angel is against human nature, everyone has a dark side to them and you can't get rid of it no matter what. Repressing that will just make it come back at you in other fucked up ways
Also it's not just some skin it's an organ, if you mess with it youll probably end up having issues with urinating and stuff for the rest of your life, also ending up locked in a psych ward if you need to see a doctor after you do it and they find out how that happened

 

[Cyagangy]

Wait til you find out about Jesus, snake venom, little boys and sperm.

I'd of crucified the fucker too.

Searching up all of these references besides Jesus these are old testament things. Jesus says to judge others by there actions and righteously so while criticizing churches abuse aswell as condemning the wealthy that do not give. Deadass what could you possibly have against him

Religion and obsessing about being pure and all good like an angel is against human nature, everyone has a dark side to them and you can't get rid of it no matter what. Repressing that will just make it come back at you in other fucked up ways
Also it's not just some skin it's an organ, if you mess with it youll probably end up having issues with urinating and stuff for the rest of your life, also ending up locked in a psych ward if you need to see a doctor after you do it and they find out how that happened

Yeah I'm aware of that, it's a permanent solution but my brain flip flops towards it. If I do do it I might just do it before committing if i still chose to do that again.

 

[Pale_Rider]

All I can say is im so fucked in the head I know my fate. The shape, and size of my penis doesnt matter. I can tell you there are men with micro penis that do better on being sound humans. So you need not worry about that part. thats the Cross I have been handed.

 

[doctordetritus]

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im a balls to the wall atheist, aggressively pro choice, but this made me laugh.

 

[Cyagangy]

im a balls to the wall atheist, aggressively pro choice, but this made me laughreb

im a balls to the wall atheist, aggressively pro choice, but this made me laugh.

Reverse of this but I actually found this funny too

 

[doctordetritus]

initiating an across the philosophical isle fist bump.

 

[Cyagangy]

initiating an across the philosophical isle fist bump.

Who knew a post about me wanting to cut off my manhood would be wholesome

 

[EternalShore]

I'd not recommend posting things like this here, since SS is generally littered with atheists~ >_< you may also wish to specify that you are asking for advice from religious people and not atheists too~ in fact, I thought this was an atheist making fun of Christianity until I read your replies and am still only half-certain you're being genuine~
Anyways, just responding to some things you mentioned~ :) While the Bible should normally be interpreted literally, that was hyperbole to describe how bad sin and Hell are~ The disciples didn't start cutting off hands after He said that~ In addition, there was some controversy about an early Christian named Origen regarding accusing him of having self-castrated himself (as you describe desiring yourself) and some other things you've said~ Because of how ridiculous this was thought by others to be, it can be taken that no, you don't need to castrate yourself~

Thanks, I completely forgot about derutonomy but I still take old testament with a grain of salt since it was considered to be rules for the Israelites and since Christians follow the new testament while using the old as a basis.

verses were handed down by Paul and John.

Unfortunately, I may be wrong, but based on how you've worded things, I think you're a bit confuzzled about how the Bible works in general tho! >_< feel free to ask any questions as you like! :)
The entire Bible is the Word of God and authoritative (2nd Timothy 3:16). This includes both the New and Old Testaments~ As you already know, God didn't literally write the Bible tho. Instead, people were divinely inspired, or creatively led, by God to write the Bible~ As such, Jesus's words and Paul's words were both written by men but also by God~ As a result, the Words of Jesus, the letters of Paul, the Old Testament, and even Revelation should all be treated as if God said it Himself and respected.
Just that some books (like Revelation) and passages are less clear than others, so one would want to interpret them in light of clearer passages to get the true meaning~ :) Kinda like the passage you mentioned and many of Jesus's parables (if they are not explicitly explained)! ^_^

The Old Testament is just as much of God's Word as the New Testament is~ Just that the Old Testament was fulfilled with the coming of the New Testament~ This doesn't mean it was removed and should be treated as worthless tho~ It's still the Word of God after all! Just that the Old Covenant was completed with Jesus's death and resurrection for our sins~ The old laws which are repeated by the New Testament and the 10 Commandments are still in place, and all of the stories, poems, prophecies, etc. are still true~ Just that laws which are not repeated in the New Testament are not considered sins as they only were considered sins in order to prepare Israel for the coming of Christ (granting them purity but also showing them that they can't measure up to God)~ This is shown explicitly for the food laws in Acts 10:12-15 and sacrifices (Hebrews 10:12) can be inferred for the other laws that are not restated such as mixing fabrics, crossdressing, etc.~

 

[EmptyBottle]

Why anyone would listen to a book that endorses slavery and killing people and stealing little virgin girls to have their way with , is beyond me quite frankly. If God is jesus and jesus is God then it logically follows that jesus also condoned these actions

Those were bad events of the past, not sure what Jesus thinks of them but I hope he disapproves of them. They are probably part of the Old Testament too. The New Testament takes precedence over things from the Old Testament; eg: "Love one another as I have loved you" overrules sections that allowed slavery, and those sections are kept as historical reference.

PS: The Bible also discourages sexual immorality.

Jesus isn't an asshole? He says if we THINK something it's the same as DOING it. And since we can't control what we think half the time, it sounds assholish to me. Sorry.
God created us to be the way we are, then judges us & punishes us for being that way. Again... Asshole.
Again... Sorry.

Not necessarily. When Jesus mentions 'thinking lustfully of someone' might as well be the same thing as adultery, he means intentional thoughts of lust.
And I think it was meant as a cautionary statement, because adultery doesn't happen instantly, thoughts of lust precede it... so avoiding those thoughts can help one avoid adultery. (Yes, most thoughts of any kind don't necessarily lead to action)

 

[doctordetritus]

Who knew a post about me wanting to cut off my manhood would be wholesome

another LOL!

so im not a doctor, but i seemed to recall some news item about antidepressants dampening ones sex drive. seems like if you are even a little bit considering castration, this might be a more staid avenue to try first? and it might possibly help with depression too so win win?

this is a lazy google but i found this -

Antidepressants most likely to cause sexual side effects include:

• Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) citalopram (Celexa), escitalopram (Lexapro), fluoxetine (Prozac), paroxetine (Paxil) and sertraline (Zoloft). Paroxetine has the highest risk of sexual side effects.
• Serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (SNRI) venlafaxine (Effexor XR).
• Tricyclic and tetracyclic antidepressants amitriptyline, nortriptyline (Pamelor) and clomipramine (Anafranil). There are fewer studies of sexual side effects in this class of antidepressants, but clomipramine carries the highest risk of sexual side effects.
• Monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs) isocarboxazid (Marplan), phenelzine (Nardil) and tranylcypromine (Parnate). Phenelzine may have a greater risk of sexual side effects than tranylcypromine.

Antidepressants: Which cause the fewest sexual side effects?

Sexual side effects are common with antidepressants in both men and women, but there are options to prevent or reduce such side effects.

www.mayoclinic.org

 

[davidtorez]

Those were bad events of the past, not sure what Jesus thinks of them but I hope he disapproves of them. They are probably part of the Old Testament too. The New Testament takes precedence over things from the Old Testament; eg: "Love one another as I have loved you" overrules sections that allowed slavery, and those sections are kept as historical reference.

PS: The Bible also discourages sexual immorality.

Not necessarily. When Jesus mentions 'thinking lustfully of someone' might as well be the same thing as adultery, he means intentional thoughts of lust.
And I think it was meant as a cautionary statement, because adultery doesn't happen instantly, thoughts of lust precede it... so avoiding those thoughts can help one avoid adultery. (Yes, most thoughts of any kind don't necessarily lead to action)

So God isn't changeless then . He can and does change his mind .

 

[EmptyBottle]

So God isn't changeless then . He can and does change his mind .

similar to how humans change their mind maybe

 

[doctordetritus]

SS is generally littered with atheists

i actually wonder what the breakdown is but im too lazy to conduct a poll.

 

[Cyagangy]

I'd not recommend posting things like this here, since SS is generally littered with atheists~ >_< you may also wish to specify that you are asking for advice from religious people and not atheists too~ in fact, I thought this was an atheist making fun of Christianity until I read your replies and am still only half-certain you're being genuine~
Anyways, just responding to some things you mentioned~ :) While the Bible should normally be interpreted literally, that was hyperbole to describe how bad sin and Hell are~ The disciples didn't start cutting off hands after He said that~ In addition, there was some controversy about an early Christian named Origen regarding accusing him of having self-castrated himself (as you describe desiring yourself) and some other things you've said~ Because of how ridiculous this was thought by others to be, it can be taken that no, you don't need to castrate yourself~


Unfortunately, I may be wrong, but based on how you've worded things, I think you're a bit confuzzled about how the Bible works in general tho! >_< feel free to ask any questions as you like! :)
The entire Bible is the Word of God and authoritative (2nd Timothy 3:16). This includes both the New and Old Testaments~ As you already know, God didn't literally write the Bible tho. Instead, people were divinely inspired, or creatively led, by God to write the Bible~ As such, Jesus's words and Paul's words were both written by men but also by God~ As a result, the Words of Jesus, the letters of Paul, the Old Testament, and even Revelation should all be treated as if God said it Himself and respected.
Just that some books (like Revelation) and passages are less clear than others, so one would want to interpret them in light of clearer passages to get the true meaning~ :) Kinda like the passage you mentioned and many of Jesus's parables (if they are not explicitly explained)! ^_^

The Old Testament is just as much of God's Word as the New Testament is~ Just that the Old Testament was fulfilled with the coming of the New Testament~ This doesn't mean it was removed and should be treated as worthless tho~ It's still the Word of God after all! Just that the Old Covenant was completed with Jesus's death and resurrection for our sins~ The old laws which are repeated by the New Testament and the 10 Commandments are still in place, and all of the stories, poems, prophecies, etc. are still true~ Just that laws which are not repeated in the New Testament are not considered sins as they only were considered sins in order to prepare Israel for the coming of Christ (granting them purity but also showing them that they can't measure up to God)~ This is shown explicitly for the food laws in Acts 10:12-15 and sacrifices (Hebrews 10:12) can be inferred for the other laws that are not restated such as mixing fabrics, crossdressing, etc.~

Ahhh! Thank you, I assumed most of the old testament were for the isrealites of that time to follow. Since by that point they were lost and needed a guide.

similar to how humans change their mind maybe

Technically yes since moses was able to talk to him about it in the old testament.

 

[EternalShore]

i actually wonder what the breakdown is but im too lazy to conduct a poll.

Luckily for you, there's been some before! :) As of the past 2 or so years, t's about 75% atheist/agnostic, 12.5% Christian and 12.5% other! :) Prior to that, it was even less Christian~

Ahhh! Thank you, I assumed most of the old testament were for the isrealites of that time to follow. Since by that point they were lost and needed a guide.
Technically yes since moses was able to talk to him about it in the old testament.

if by the Old Testament, you mean Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, yes, unless it's the 10 Commandments or restated elsewhere, most of that is just for the Israelites, yup! ^_^

 

[Cyagangy]

Luckily for you, there's been some before! :) As of the past 2 or so years, t's about 75% atheist/agnostic, 12.5% Christian and 12.5% other! :) Prior to that, it was even less Christian~


if by the Old Testament, you mean Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, yes, unless it's the 10 Commandments or restated elsewhere, most of that is just for the Israelites, yup! ^_^

Yep! So stuff like Matthew is still canon yeah? Thank God don't follow Leviticus and Deruronomy since they both have some very concerning verses.

 

[Ashu]

The phrase "and I have a feeling that Jesus is being hyperbolic" contains a neologism, it's another symptom of schizophrenia and it's not normal communication.

So we owe the evolution of language to schizophrenics. Poetry too, but we already knew that.

 

[EternalShore]

Yep! So stuff like Matthew is still canon yeah? Thank God don't follow Leviticus and Deruronomy since they both have some very concerning verses.

All of it is still canon in fact as all of it is the Word of God~ Simply that because we are not Jews living prior to the coming of Jesus, we do not need to follow the laws that only apply to them and were not restated within the New Testament~ :)

So God isn't changeless then . He can and does change his mind .

In Christianity, no. In Islam, yes. In other religions, idk. A lot of the people in this thread are being very sloppy with their wording, but you can see my spiel earlier on for a better worded explanation for Christianity~ :)