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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,875
On most forums for my illness (CFS), it feels like a constant bombardment of, "Oh, you can barely function? I know it's hard, and there's no hope for a cure, but hang in there and pace yourself!"

I've been ill for now almost 10 years of my life. My teenage years and young adulthood were ruined by the never ending fatigue and physical pain. There were so many opportunities I had to turn down due to illness, and every day I choose to go outside or do anything, it's a constant battle knowing I am guaranteed to be exhausted, in pain, and sometimes even non-verbal. If you are in your 20s and 30s the vast majority of doctors don't offer any pain relief, besides basic NSAIDs and physiotherapy, so you're basically forced to suffer without any hope of even temporary bandaid solutions.

Objectively, this is a terrible existence, for me anyways. In CFS communities, you will see people celebrating being able to go outside without having a crash if they are severe, something so basic and simple that the vast majority of people would take it for granted. Every time I take a step, there's a profound heaviness in my body that others fail to understand. "You're too young- you can't really be sick, it's psychological and born from a mindset of learned helplessness, have you learned about somatization, CBT, and the mind-body connection?" are common phrases said to people with invisible illnesses that aren't fully understood.

It's terribly hard for anyone to understand that your body can keep physically suffering for years and years, without fully shutting down and killing you. Just this constant misery and decline every single day. I can't deny that these experiences have left permanent scars on my mental state, I don't know how it couldn't. Not just from what I've lost as a person, in terms of my own skills and abilities, but the abhorrent treatment from other people. Some of the closest friends I ever had have asked me why I didn't kill myself already, or told me that I could never hope to be loved by anyone in my current state.

Of course, because I am also suffering mentally, every self-proclaimed genius guru out there will purport that this is the true cause, that I just need to seek out more psychological help and I can "train my brain" to be happy with essentially living like a walking dead zombie. Gee, why did I never think about that before? Besides, if I am objectively unhappy being shut up indoors consistently, and I am well aware of that, I am not sure how I can trick myself into feeling content with something which has objectively been proven to be bad for the majority of people's mental state.

There are so many grifters too, especially these e-celeb social media doctors who have built a cult following out of scamming people with conditions like long COVID and CFS which have no sanctioned treatments, and the mechanisms of which are poorly understood. Much like in the mental health sphere, there are so many influencers who can craft these elaborate theories of how or why the disease is occuring, but then it stops there, with no potential recommendations for treatments. Only unfounded (or partially plausible) speculations.

Then, many of them are demanding expensive and exploitative consultation fees from sick, poor, and vulnerable people. Of course, no one does anything about it, because we are objectively invisible. Most people have no idea what CFS is, and if they have heard of it before, only a fraction of those people believe in the legitimacy of such a condition.

It's enough to make you lose faith in humanity, to be talked down to constantly like a crazy and unreliable narrator, because of your physical suffering. Don't even get me started on nonsense terms like "conversion disorders", because at the end of the day it's all just code for, we haven't conducted proper biomedical research into what is causing these disorders, so we assume they are psychological in nature!

I feel like I've become a bitter person, and so disconnected from others, because how could anyone understand my reality? It's a good thing that they don't, in a way, because it means they won't have experienced anything similar to this hell firsthand, but it's an awfully isolating existence.

I genuinely don't know how I'm expected to be happy after I've lived with this awful illness for 10 years, with 0 signs of improvements. Every time I try a new protocol or regimine that someone suggests in the LC or CFS community, I inevitably feel distraught when it does nothing. There's no acknowledgement from others, and no dignity in this kind of suffering. The constant disbelief and lack of care from wider society is crushing, on top of the physical pain and tiredness you are forced to endure everyday.

I want to die so so badly.
 
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Dot

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Sep 26, 2021
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Dd nt hlp tht mst erly rsearch in2 th/ cnditn ws cnductd b/ psychiatrsts wth an agnda whch pt ovrall rserch bck dcades

Slf ws blockd on twittr b/ 1 of thm & slf cnsidr tht a persnl achivemnt
 
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here_for_now

is this by design?
Jan 27, 2025
175
On most forums for my illness (CFS), it feels like a constant bombardment of, "Oh, you can barely function? I know it's hard, and there's no hope for a cure, but hang in there and pace yourself!"

I've been ill for now almost 10 years of my life. My teenage years and young adulthood were ruined by the never ending fatigue and physical pain. There were so many opportunities I had to turn down due to illness, and every day I choose to go outside or do anything, it's a constant battle knowing I am guaranteed to be exhausted, in pain, and sometimes even non-verbal. If you are in your 20s and 30s the vast majority of doctors don't offer any pain relief, besides basic NSAIDs and physiotherapy, so you're basically forced to suffer without any hope of even temporary bandaid solutions.

Objectively, this is a terrible existence, for me anyways. In CFS communities, you will see people celebrating being able to go outside without having a crash if they are severe, something so basic and simple that the vast majority of people would take it for granted. Every time I take a step, there's a profound heaviness in my body that others fail to understand. "You're too young- you can't really be sick, it's psychological and born from a mindset of learned helplessness, have you learned about somatization, CBT, and the mind-body connection?" are common phrases said to people with invisible illnesses that aren't fully understood.

It's terribly hard for anyone to understand that your body can keep physically suffering for years and years, without fully shutting down and killing you. Just this constant misery and decline every single day. I can't deny that these experiences have left permanent scars on my mental state, I don't know how it couldn't. Not just from what I've lost as a person, in terms of my own skills and abilities, but the abhorrent treatment from other people. Some of the closest friends I ever had have asked me why I didn't kill myself already, or told me that I could never hope to be loved by anyone in my current state.

Of course, because I am also suffering mentally, every self-proclaimed genius guru out there will purport that this is the true cause, that I just need to seek out more psychological help and I can "train my brain" to be happy with essentially living like a walking dead zombie. Gee, why did I never think about that before? Besides, if I am objectively unhappy being shut up indoors consistently, and I am well aware of that, I am not sure how I can trick myself into feeling content with something which has objectively been proven to be bad for the majority of people's mental state.

There are so many grifters too, especially these e-celeb social media doctors who have built a cult following out of scamming people with conditions like long COVID and CFS which have no sanctioned treatments, and the mechanisms of which are poorly understood. Much like in the mental health sphere, there are so many influencers who can craft these elaborate theories of how or why the disease is occuring, but then it stops there, with no potential recommendations for treatments. Only unfounded (or partially plausible) speculations.

Then, many of them are demanding expensive and exploitative consultation fees from sick, poor, and vulnerable people. Of course, no one does anything about it, because we are objectively invisible. Most people have no idea what CFS is, and if they have heard of it before, only a fraction of those people believe in the legitimacy of such a condition.

It's enough to make you lose faith in humanity, to be talked down to constantly like a crazy and unreliable narrator, because of your physical suffering. Don't even get me started on nonsense terms like "conversion disorders", because at the end of the day it's all just code for, we haven't conducted proper biomedical research into what is causing these disorders, so we assume they are psychological in nature!

I feel like I've become a bitter person, and so disconnected from others, because how could anyone understand my reality? It's a good thing that they don't, in a way, because it means they won't have experienced anything similar to this hell firsthand, but it's an awfully isolating existence.

I genuinely don't know how I'm expected to be happy after I've lived with this awful illness for 10 years, with 0 signs of improvements. Every time I try a new protocol or regimine that someone suggests in the LC or CFS community, I inevitably feel distraught when it does nothing. There's no acknowledgement from others, and no dignity in this kind of suffering. The constant disbelief and lack of care from wider society is crushing, on top of the physical pain and tiredness you are forced to endure everyday.

I want to die so so badly.
I know exactly how you feel, having LC for 2+ years and CFS for almost 2 years has fucked my entire life up.

I'm always alone and I'm probably going to die alone. Really don't want to ctb but I think it's my only way to avoid living decades with a progressive condition completely isolated
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,875
I know exactly how you feel, having LC for 2+ years and CFS for almost 2 years has fucked my entire life up.

I'm always alone and I'm probably going to die alone. Really don't want to ctb but I think it's my only way to avoid living decades with a progressive condition completely isolated

I really feel for you, this disease is a nightmare. The wider public is severely lacking in awareness of it, likely because so many of us are alone and don't have anyone to advocate for us or show the realties of our condition.

I understand how you feel completely, because as time has passed I have lost more and more people, and ended up with very few supports in my corner. The act of building relationships feels like an insurmountable task, when a great deal of the time, I'm too tired to get a lot of words out and find communicating verbally to be challenging.

Have you tried low dose naltrexone/LDN or nattokinase yet? A lot of people, even here, have had some success with these treatments, but unfortunately it has made no difference in my situation. I did try a medication used for poor circulation in the legs, which mildly improved my overall stamina, but had horrible side effects because it made my blood too thin. It sucks that we have to be the ones constantly researching and experimenting, because no one else is.

Btw, I love your Okabe PFP. My username actually comes from Stein's Gate as well, I used to be compared to Kurisu a lot, but not anymore with my current level of brainfog and brainrot 😢
 
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certified_idiot

Future Lost Media
Dec 5, 2023
120
Yeah, people don't realize how absolutely debilitating chronic fatigue is. Most people will only ever understand fatigue as being tired, and not the true lethargy we experience. People always try to infuse hope into a hopeless situation. I've heard people tell me that there may be a medical breakthrough, or that I'm just being melancholic, or that I just have to stick with one of the many useless treatments that I'm already on.

I know I'll continue to get worse. I know my body's failing. I know my own triggers. I know how my conditions work better than most doctors. I highly doubt I'll be able to work by the time I'm 30. I'm barely functional now. The only thing keeping me going is pure anxiety, and I'm on 1800 mg of anxiety medication a day. I don't think I can keep this up for much longer. Not when the world is working against me.

I wanted to ctb before my conditions got bad, so I don't know why people expect my mental health to get better as my physical health gets worse. I do think people are trying to help, but they are overconfident and don't listen, so they just end up making everything worse. I know it's possible to be disabled and happy, but happy disabled people have support systems. I'm too autistic and depressed to actually talk to people, and when I do make friendships, I can't maintain them because I'm too exhausted.

My parents aren't supportive, and I think that if I had to rely on them again, I'd ctb anyway. I don't see a point in living if I'm in constant pain everyday. I hate everything and I just want to die.
 
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MyMomWasMyLife

Member
May 2, 2026
47
On most forums for my illness (CFS), it feels like a constant bombardment of, "Oh, you can barely function? I know it's hard, and there's no hope for a cure, but hang in there and pace yourself!"

I've been ill for now almost 10 years of my life. My teenage years and young adulthood were ruined by the never ending fatigue and physical pain. There were so many opportunities I had to turn down due to illness, and every day I choose to go outside or do anything, it's a constant battle knowing I am guaranteed to be exhausted, in pain, and sometimes even non-verbal. If you are in your 20s and 30s the vast majority of doctors don't offer any pain relief, besides basic NSAIDs and physiotherapy, so you're basically forced to suffer without any hope of even temporary bandaid solutions.

Objectively, this is a terrible existence, for me anyways. In CFS communities, you will see people celebrating being able to go outside without having a crash if they are severe, something so basic and simple that the vast majority of people would take it for granted. Every time I take a step, there's a profound heaviness in my body that others fail to understand. "You're too young- you can't really be sick, it's psychological and born from a mindset of learned helplessness, have you learned about somatization, CBT, and the mind-body connection?" are common phrases said to people with invisible illnesses that aren't fully understood.

It's terribly hard for anyone to understand that your body can keep physically suffering for years and years, without fully shutting down and killing you. Just this constant misery and decline every single day. I can't deny that these experiences have left permanent scars on my mental state, I don't know how it couldn't. Not just from what I've lost as a person, in terms of my own skills and abilities, but the abhorrent treatment from other people. Some of the closest friends I ever had have asked me why I didn't kill myself already, or told me that I could never hope to be loved by anyone in my current state.

Of course, because I am also suffering mentally, every self-proclaimed genius guru out there will purport that this is the true cause, that I just need to seek out more psychological help and I can "train my brain" to be happy with essentially living like a walking dead zombie. Gee, why did I never think about that before? Besides, if I am objectively unhappy being shut up indoors consistently, and I am well aware of that, I am not sure how I can trick myself into feeling content with something which has objectively been proven to be bad for the majority of people's mental state.

There are so many grifters too, especially these e-celeb social media doctors who have built a cult following out of scamming people with conditions like long COVID and CFS which have no sanctioned treatments, and the mechanisms of which are poorly understood. Much like in the mental health sphere, there are so many influencers who can craft these elaborate theories of how or why the disease is occuring, but then it stops there, with no potential recommendations for treatments. Only unfounded (or partially plausible) speculations.

Then, many of them are demanding expensive and exploitative consultation fees from sick, poor, and vulnerable people. Of course, no one does anything about it, because we are objectively invisible. Most people have no idea what CFS is, and if they have heard of it before, only a fraction of those people believe in the legitimacy of such a condition.

It's enough to make you lose faith in humanity, to be talked down to constantly like a crazy and unreliable narrator, because of your physical suffering. Don't even get me started on nonsense terms like "conversion disorders", because at the end of the day it's all just code for, we haven't conducted proper biomedical research into what is causing these disorders, so we assume they are psychological in nature!

I feel like I've become a bitter person, and so disconnected from others, because how could anyone understand my reality? It's a good thing that they don't, in a way, because it means they won't have experienced anything similar to this hell firsthand, but it's an awfully isolating existence.

I genuinely don't know how I'm expected to be happy after I've lived with this awful illness for 10 years, with 0 signs of improvements. Every time I try a new protocol or regimine that someone suggests in the LC or CFS community, I inevitably feel distraught when it does nothing. There's no acknowledgement from others, and no dignity in this kind of suffering. The constant disbelief and lack of care from wider society is crushing, on top of the physical pain and tiredness you are forced to endure everyday.

I want to die so so badly.
I'm so sorry for what you (and everyone else on this thread) are going through and I fully understand not wanting to live like that for decades. It's hard to believe it's 2026 and they don't have anything better to offer as treatments. I don't know anything about this syndrome so forgive me if this is not an appropriate question, but have amphetamines of any kind be tried/prescribed?
 
Raindancer

Raindancer

Specialist
Nov 4, 2023
368
I am sorry you are in this club I have a rare autoimmune inflammatory disease as well as RA and some others and I can never decide which is worse the fatigue or pain. I've been sick for a very long time, diagnosed in 03 after being gaslit by doctors. This is a really shitt club to be a member of and I am sorry for all its members. It changes absolutely everything about who you are and how you function and relate to others. My husband left me because he couldn't take not living a normal life. You are definitely not alone.
 
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