Discussion Checking my possibilities. Death by train.

[drakewantstogo]

Okay, so I live in Spain. I think my best way to ctb is catching the train. Please save your "it's a traumatic thing for others" speech.
I think I could jump in front of a train, maybe with my head at the front, so it'd be like falling from a high place. I couldn't make me put the neck on the rails tho.
The thing is, here in Spain we have a special kind of trains called "AVE" (which means Spanish High Speed) that can go up to 310 km/h. The thing is they either look like this or this

and I'm afraid that they'd just propel me into the air instead of smashing me.
There is another kind of trains but they're significantly slower. Opinions?

 

[TheGoodGuy]

If you choose train lay your head across the tracks so the train will decapitate you like a guillotine it´s certain death, I can provide pictures if you like to see. There is even a picture with a couple next to each other and the train still decapitated both without any problems, i´d say it´s a 100% sure way to die but damn it must take courage to commit to it.

 

[Fenty(nal)]

So you're actually going to include a poor random stranger in your suicide. Possibly duck them up for life leading to their own suicide? Don't be an asshole by involving strangers. Choose a different method.

 

[AhG]

So you're actually going to include a poor random stranger in your suicide. Possibly duck them up for life leading to their own suicide? Don't be an asshole by involving strangers. Choose a different method.

Another funny post.

 

[Macc Lad]

So you're actually going to include a poor random stranger in your suicide. Possibly duck them up for life leading to their own suicide? Don't be an asshole by involving strangers. Choose a different method.

couldn't agree more........."Please save your "it's a traumatic thing for others" speech".........why involve others!!

Another funny post.

not a funny post.........just somebody who has a conscience!

 

[Fenty(nal)]

couldn't agree more........."Please save your "it's a traumatic thing for others" speech".........why involve others!!

I considered train but chose FS because I can be completely alone and do it. Yes, could be traumatic for first responder, but I'm definitely not fucking up a poor train operator's life because I hate mine.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Someone must either be seriously deluded or hate themselves so much to actually go in front of a train. I don't think it's courage at all. Any courage to overcome survival instinct in this case is nothing but sheer deception masqueraded as courage.

Let me put it like this. Can you imagine telling your younger childhood self what would happen to them once they get older how they are just going to be run over by a train. Can you imagine what that child would think? Like this is what a life time of work has lead to. Have some dignity for yourself.

 

[drakewantstogo]

Let me put it like this. Can you imagine telling your younger childhood self what would happen to them once they get older how they are just going to be run over by a train. Can you imagine what that child would think? Like this is what a life time of work has lead to. Have some dignity for yourself.

This could be applied to any suicide method.

 

[AhG]

All methods involve suffering to another in some form. If this method is not one you'd choose for personal and moral reasons, it's absolutely fine for you to say so, but I'm not sure the this is so selfish how could you do such a thing approach is in any way proper. This discussion around train drivers being a protected species has been done before, the train is a method that does work, often quickly and efficiently, and nobody should be negatively judged on this forum, as they regularly are, for choosing this method."

 

[GeorgeJL]

This could be applied to any suicide method.

Well let's look at how this will play out in my case. I have N right now so here we go.

Would I rather tell my younger self?
"when your older you will die peacefully in your sleep listening to your favoirte music once you take your medicine."
Or
"When your older you will be crushed by a train."

No comparison. Dignity rules.

 

[Jean Améry]

Morality aside there's a good chance it'll work but if you do survive you will likely be maimed and/or handicapped. Do you want to risk ending up with limbs missing?

As to the kind of train: basic physics would suggest the faster the better.

Well let's look at how this will play out in my case. I have N right now so here we go.

Would I rather tell my younger self?
"when your older you will die peacefully in your sleep listening to your favoirte music once you take your medicine."
Or
"When your older you will be crushed by a train."

No comparison. Dignity rules.

Hear, hear. My thoughts exactly.

 

[GeorgeJL]

All methods involve suffering to another in some form. If this method is not one you'd choose for personal and moral reasons, it's absolutely fine for you to say so, but I'm not sure the this is so selfish how could you do such a thing approach is in any way proper. This discussion around train drivers being a protected species has been done before, the train is a method that does work, often quickly and efficiently, and nobody should be negatively judged on this forum, as they regularly are, for choosing this method.

Sorry but not all suicide methods are created equally. News flash we live in 2019 we don't need to subject ourselves to such suffering. If you want to live in a world where people don't care about others dignity then that is on you. You can reincarnate into the stone age.

Yes I am pro-choice but I am also pro-dignity.

 

[AhG]

@drakewantstogo, you decide what you want. I'm not going to argue your method, because it's your choice, mate.

 

[GeorgeJL]

@drakewantstogo, you decide what you want. I'm not going to argue your method, because it's your choice, mate.

That sounds like something a stranger would say not something a friend would say.

 

[Jean Améry]

I considered train but chose FS because I can be completely alone and do it. Yes, could be traumatic for first responder, but I'm definitely not fucking up a poor train operator's life because I hate mine.

I commend your change of heart. What does 'FS' stand for exactly? It might be obvious but I'm still fairly new to this forum.

 

[Quinlor]

If you choose train lay your head across the tracks so the train will decapitate you like a guillotine it´s certain death, I can provide pictures if you like to see. There is even a picture with a couple next to each other and the train still decapitated both without any problems, i´d say it´s a 100% sure way to die but damn it must take courage to commit to it.

You could put cotton in yours ears then perhaps you won't listen hear the train coming. In this sense, can be a peaceful journey to the other side.

 

[Fenty(nal)]

I commend your change of heart. What does 'FS' stand for exactly? It might be obvious but I'm still fairly new to this forum.

full suspension. Don't get it twisted. I think OP's method is stupid as fuck.

 

[TreatmentDidntWork]

I find it highly unusual that on a website that endorses one's freedom to make their own choices, people are so judgmental about the choices other people choose to make.

 

[Jean Améry]

I find it highly unusual that on a website that endorses one's freedom to make their own choices, people are so judgmental about the choices other people choose to make.

It seems I accidentally pressed the wrong button: I do not agree with your comment at all. When one's actions will have direct harmful consequences to others that does matter. If suicide is about lessening suffering surely one shouldn't add to the suffering of others needlessly if one chooses to go?

If individual liberty is sacred and limitless we should condone everything including mass-shootings. If an individual would announce he/she planned to kill others before taking their own life would you condemn their plan or remain glib and insist one shouldn't be judgemental?

Pro-choice does not equate to pro harm.

I believe there are moral limits to the behaviour of individuals: one person's rights end where others' rights begin and vice versa. Unless one really has no other option to CTB jumping in front of a train seems like a bad idea. I don't understand why anyone would want to do that to themselves let alone another.

That being said I doubt anyone would be dissuaded by what strangers say on an internet forum so it probably doesn't matter anyway.

 

[AhG]

Yes I am pro-choice but I am also pro-dignity.

Ah yes, because condemning a user for choosing a method you dislike is very different from yours is just so "pro-choice" alright.

If you want to live in a world where people don't care about others dignity then that is on you. You can reincarnate into the stone age.

And if you are trying to insinuate that I have no "dignity" because this person is getting judged for choosing this method and I'm standing up for them, then I guess I have none at all.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

You could put cotton in yours ears then perhaps you won't listen hear the train coming. In this sense, can be a peaceful journey to the other side.

At first I thought this was stupid but then I remember that several people even a famous bodybuilder got hit by a train while filming so I don´t think with earplugs you would hear it coming. But I think it will be better to wait to lay down until spotting the train otherwise you could lay there for a long time which I think will bring more anxiety plus the train driver might spot you. With this method I think when you spot the train you should quickly run up and lay down in position so the driver don´t have the time to slam the breaks.

 

[AhG]

I find it highly unusual that on a website that endorses one's freedom to make their own choices, people are so judgmental about the choices other people choose to make.

Condemning a person for choosing a method that is "selfish" in my honest opinion is not appropriate, as is the suggestion that a suicide forum which doesn't indulge in judgemental "calling out" of those who opt for the train method is somehow falling below some ethical standard decided by a few individual people.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Ah yes, because condemning a user for choosing a method you dislike is very different from yours is just so "pro-choice" alright.

And if you are trying to insinuate that I have no "dignity" because this person is getting judged for choosing this method and I'm standing up for them, then I guess I have none at all.

Would you support this person if they wanted to die by jumping into shark invested waters or a herd of lions? Or hanging themselves by their penis with piano wire?
Or how about this one. Would you support someone that wanted to die by sliding into a tree shredder, feet first?

 

[AhG]

Would you support this person if they wanted to die by jumping into shark invested waters or a herd of lions? Or hanging themselves by their penis with piano wire?

So your counter argument for the train is going to be unrealistic methods? Gotcha.

 

[Fenty(nal)]

I speak so strongly on this because a family friend was a train conductor (key word- was). Happy dude with an amazing life. Then one day someone decides to kill themselves on his line. He ran over the person and his windshield was splattered with blood. He couldn't handle running someone over (even though he had NO way to prevent it). This caused him severe PTSD until he took his own life. Let's not pretend your actions won't impact other people. Which is why my plan, involves the least amount of damage to others.

 

[AhG]

Would you support someone that wanted to die by sliding into a tree shredder, feet first?

I think head first would work better.
Look, I'm not saying that ctb by train is a good method, but judging somebody else's isn't your right either. What makes you better than everybody else to judge this person? Oh wait, because you have "dignity". Hmmmmm

 

[GeorgeJL]

So your counter argument for the train is going to be unrealistic methods? Gotcha.

That's their choice though right? Look you know that you wouldn't support those other methods. And that is why it's a double standard. And you know this. You can't support people choosing undignified, painful, barbaric methods in one breath, then say but no wait this kind other kind of undignified, painful barbaric method isn't right. But they are all still undignified, painful, barbaric methods.

I think you have desensitized yourself to the idea that is train is somehow acceptable. I bet if a new fad came around where people were burning themselves to death as a suicide method you would accept that too. Or maybe I am wrong and you now see the double standard in your thinking.

 

[AhG]

Which is why my plan, involves the least amount of damage to others.

Ah yes, because when a loved one or a friend, finds you on FS with a bloated face, and they have to cut you down, and quite possibly hold you in their arms while police get there, it won't be traumatizing at all for them.

 

[GeorgeJL]

I speak so strongly on this because a family friend was a train conductor (key word- was). Happy dude with an amazing life. Then one day someone decides to kill themselves on his line. He ran over the person and his windshield was splattered with blood. He couldn't handle running someone over (even though he had NO way to prevent it). This caused him severe PTSD until he took his own life. Let's not pretend your actions won't impact other people. Which is why my plan, involves the least amount of damage to others.

Exactly, thank you for speaking out about this craziness.

 

[Goldentwenty]

How does someone get an access point to get run over by a train? I dont know where to jump to get run over. Can anyone help me?