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gap

I'm Italian, but there is google translate🙂
Apr 28, 2023
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I need your opinion on the method of producing carbon monoxide using formic acid and sulfuric acid. I've seen that a wash chamber is recommended for its production, but wouldn't wearing an ABEK filter respirator be a viable alternative? The filter protects against fumes without filtering carbon monoxide. What do you think, I'm not an expert. I ask the community for your opinions.

I hope you understand, I use the translator for English
 
Kall

Kall

Member
Jul 7, 2023
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Hello,
I also found this method on multiple autopsy reports and I wish to ctb using this. I am not an expert either but I can share what I found. The reaction is just a decomposition of formic acid, sulfuric acid serves as a catalyst (which is a really good thing because you don't need a lot of the latter, and the sulfuric acid has an unbearable smell). The reaction is the following:
HCOOH+H2S(cat) -> H2O + CO + H2S(cat)
So the reaction produces only water and carbon monoxide. I didn't test it but what should happen is, once you pour the formic acid into a bucket, you add a small amount of sulfuric acid and the liquid will start to boil, producing the CO.
The thing I'm unsure of the the quantity of formic acid needed to be lethal (in my case it will be in my car). The article says they found a 1-liter bottle of acid, and when the corpse was found, the reaction was still going (it happened also in a car). So I guess 1 or 2 liter of formic acid would be enough depending on the concentration.

I am not sure I am allowed to share the articles here, but you can find them or equivalents if you search "suicide formic acid" in google scholar.
I hope it could help, please message me if I was not clear on certain points or if you want to know more
 
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moron

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Nov 14, 2023
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Idk, I am interested in this also. The wash chamber seems complicated and I would think that an acid gas respirator would work well for the purpose. In fact I came onto this forum to research exactly this question.
 
Intoxicated

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Nov 16, 2023
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I think, it's a viable option. It makes sense to prefer filters made specially for protection from acidic gases.
 
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