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matsuzaka

matsuzaka

愛ということはずっとわかんない
May 17, 2026
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people always describle love as some sort of mystical feeling that consumes you whole and gives you meaning in life. i've seen it do wonders for my friends and family! i really am happy for them i think but at the same time i do feel a little jealous.

i dont strictly mean love in the sense that it romantic either, i mean all sorts of love including platonic or familial love.

that does leave me to wonder though, if i have never felt love is it possible for me to be loved? i was born into a shitty family who have only abused me and i grew up bullied and ostracized in schools for the most part. there has never been a period in my life where i could say i had someone that i knew i could go to, or someone that i knew loved me unconditionally.

it makes me think, is that why i am cursed to never truly understand love? i want to feel love for someone else and i want to be loved but i feel like i am eternally empty. cursed to walk this earth with no connection to its people.

anyways maybe im just having a really bad episode of bpd or something who knows, thanks for reading
 
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ctb_warrior

ctb_warrior

I wish to CTB asap
Feb 11, 2024
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I'm so sorry that you've had to go through this.. Everyone deserves to be loved and to experience love. Love is a beautiful feeling but in today's world, people don't have love in their hearts most of the time, due to which most people experience heartbreak. It's a blessing in disguise for you that you don't have to be vulnerable for anyone that could result in a heartbreak. I wish I never fell in love the second time, since that day, my life got worse.
 
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lastappleonearth

lastappleonearth

Слёзы на щеках
Jun 11, 2026
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people always describle love as some sort of mystical feeling that consumes you whole and gives you meaning in life. i've seen it do wonders for my friends and family! i really am happy for them i think but at the same time i do feel a little jealous.

i dont strictly mean love in the sense that it romantic either, i mean all sorts of love including platonic or familial love.

that does leave me to wonder though, if i have never felt love is it possible for me to be loved? i was born into a shitty family who have only abused me and i grew up bullied and ostracized in schools for the most part. there has never been a period in my life where i could say i had someone that i knew i could go to, or someone that i knew loved me unconditionally.

it makes me think, is that why i am cursed to never truly understand love? i want to feel love for someone else and i want to be loved but i feel like i am eternally empty. cursed to walk this earth with no connection to its people.

anyways maybe im just having a really bad episode of bpd or something who knows, thanks for reading
It's definitely possible to experience love, if you've never experienced it before. It will probably come natural, when it happens. The first time it happened to me, it was so overwhelming (not in a bad way tho), because I had never before felt those feelings. I do think though that true love is pretty rare, I hope you find it. I had it, but didn't cherish it enough.
But yeah, I can only speak for romantic love
 
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webb&flow

dum spiro spero—take it as it comes
Nov 30, 2024
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if i have never felt love is it possible for me to be loved?
If a flower does not have eyes, is it possible for someone to behold it in awe?

i want to feel love for someone else and i want to be loved but i feel like i am eternally empty. cursed to walk this earth with no connection to its people.
two distinct things here ♥ ~
  • Your own ability to experience (& feel) love
  • someone else's experience of loving you
there has never been a period in my life where i could say i had someone that i knew i could go to, or someone that i knew loved me unconditionally.
Have you ever seen someone, and wanted to talk to them? If you have, that is one form of love ♥.
Have you ever been glad you met someone, and wished to see them again? If you have, that is another form of love ♥.

It is possible to feel love even outside of "tightknit" bonds :). In fact, love itself is what often first inspires such bonding in the first place! ^^

But there can be such cases where it's difficult for two people to maintain a secure bond with each other, even if they both love each other.

Here is one such "operational definition" for love: A force that brings someone towards something, especially another person. When two people love each other, they both wish to move towards one another, or to spend time with one another.

it makes me think, is that why i am cursed to never truly understand love? i want to feel love for someone else and i want to be loved but i feel like i am eternally empty. cursed to walk this earth with no connection to its people.
I think what you are feeling is not a curse, but the pain that is loneliness ♥.

We can struggle to experience stable connections in our lives for a great variety of reasons 💗. Not all of them have to do with ourselves. A person can have friends who love them, however even in such cases, drastic changes in some of the lives of those friends may disrupt those bonds with newly introduced distance, that comes from external factors.

anyways maybe im just having a really bad episode of bpd or something who knows, thanks for reading
You deserve embrace and affirmation, comfort, even in episodes, too. Even if it were to pass in just 1 hour I believe that it is still right for you to be heard out about what you feel. I'm really sorry to hear you're having a bad episode right now, and I truly hope that you feel even a touch better in any time to come, mastuzaka 🫂.

people always describle love as some sort of mystical feeling that consumes you whole and gives you meaning in life.
Love is often small too ♥. Like the emotional equivalent of little glimmers on reflective things. Or just being curious about the way someone does things.

I think a fair definition of love is "any appreciation felt for a human being". Let's say you're having a conversation with someone, and they make a joke, that happens to be really funny, and you laugh heartily :). You may feel some kind of positive emotion towards this person. You may feel an increased wish to talk with them or spend time with them when you can. A lot of people just describe this as "liking" a person but honestly this is a key part of love too, having that simple kind of "being pulled towards someone", even when it's not super grand.

Attraction comes from a Latin word that implies "to be pulled towards". That's something I think of when trying to define love.



Ultimately, in your own life and your own emotions, you have power over how you define love. And that… can be different from what other people around you define as love.

it makes me think, is that why i am cursed to never truly understand love?
Ironically, the struggle to understand what "love" exactly is, is something that is experienced from those bathing in love to those who feel distanced from it 💗. It is possible to understand what love is, even if you do not have a ton of it in your life 🫂. We are constantly exploring and wondering in this regard; and this also creates new perspective and idea on how love can express too :).

i was born into a shitty family who have only abused me and i grew up bullied and ostracized in schools for the most part.
first; i am really so sorry to hear that 🫂. i know that really hurt you ❤️‍🩹. and that in those times you felt like you had nobody who was safe, nobody you feel that you could trust to not hurt you.

And this desire for safety, to not be hurt, be it emotionally, socially, or physically—I believe that has a real role in love too.

Love is also a desire to feel connected to someone. You can love someone who you feel far away from. That desire to be closer to them—even if that person is far away—that is a form of love, too.

Ultimately, I think this word "love" is used to describe a lot of different human social phenomena. We love a book, we love to experience this, we love this person—one can see how it is used in many different ways. Is this the same feeling for different things, or different ways of feeling? The curiosity could remain—and dare I say—sustain, haha~ x3

there has never been a period in my life where i could say i had someone that i knew i could go to, or someone that i knew loved me unconditionally.
"Unconditional love". This term is a bit tricky. Please indulge me in a theoretical example. Let us say someone loves the way your hands and body move when you talk. And let us say you also happen to enjoy indulging in talk quite commonly. This person, if they love that expression-relating habit of yours, will also naturally feel love for you whenever they can see you talking. Is that "unconditional love"?

I don't know what "unconditional love" is. But I do know that so much of our nature—even what we choose to do!—can turn into habits, natural ways that we act and live. And yes our own free will choices can influence these "natural habits" too; especially what we lean into in our hours too; what we love to do, and experience—these can become facets of what we express to others too. Let us say you engage in some hobby or read some author a lot, and you find someone else who loves that same hobby and that same author too. Even if you have not read that author in a long time, or have not dealt with that hobby in a good while, you still both have a shared love of that thing. That can be one "shared source"—or "shared channel"—of love, as well.

Or let us say that there is such a circumstance where two people end up serving some kind of function for each other; for example, classmates in a difficult class who are pressured to study with one another. And let us say that these two people like studying with each other; and feel that both of them play their role just fine. And so these two people spend time with one another. And naturally that can easily reveal deeper parts of who they are and what goes on in their lives. And the more they learn about each other, the more they see; and the more possibility for love there is. How so? The more you explore a scene, the higher the chance that you are captured harmoniously by some thing within in; and the further you wander from thereon, the higher the chance is that you are further captured more :), and maybe even drawn in deeper, too ^^.

We don't actually need "unconditional" love; just loving something that is stable enough in our life or identity such that any love attached to that facet feels secure enough for us to sleep well at night, is more than enough, I feel :). Or having that love connected to a role in our life or situation that we feel is sufficiently secure, too.

And love can spring forth from one cause, yet end up changing and actually being sustained by another—or by multiple other sources, too. Someone can love someone for reason A, get to know them deeper, find more reasons (reasons B and C) and end up loving them for, say, reason C instead. And maybe they keep exploring and shifting from reason to reason, with the love for that person remaining all along—just changing, folding through different forms :). Like a kaleidoscope.

What do you feel for other people, matsuzuka? ♥ Your feelings deserve to be described in their own terms 🤗. There are many different definitions of love :). How would you describe the way you feel towards others, others who you like to spend time with or would be happy to spend time with given the opportunity? ^^ 🤗
 
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Ashu

Ashu

novelist, sanskritist, Canadian living in India
Nov 13, 2021
1,048
Yes. Only a very small minority of very ill people are unable to feel love.
 
matsuzaka

matsuzaka

愛ということはずっとわかんない
May 17, 2026
107
If a flower does not have eyes, is it possible for someone to behold it in awe?


two distinct things here ♥ ~
  • Your own ability to experience (& feel) love
  • someone else's experience of loving you

Have you ever seen someone, and wanted to talk to them? If you have, that is one form of love ♥.
Have you ever been glad you met someone, and wished to see them again? If you have, that is another form of love ♥.

It is possible to feel love even outside of "tightknit" bonds :). In fact, love itself is what often first inspires such bonding in the first place! ^^

But there can be such cases where it's difficult for two people to maintain a secure bond with each other, even if they both love each other.

Here is one such "operational definition" for love: A force that brings someone towards something, especially another person. When two people love each other, they both wish to move towards one another, or to spend time with one another.


I think what you are feeling is not a curse, but the pain that is loneliness ♥.

We can struggle to experience stable connections in our lives for a great variety of reasons 💗. Not all of them have to do with ourselves. A person can have friends who love them, however even in such cases, drastic changes in some of the lives of those friends may disrupt those bonds with newly introduced distance, that comes from external factors.


You deserve embrace and affirmation, comfort, even in episodes, too. Even if it were to pass in just 1 hour I believe that it is still right for you to be heard out about what you feel. I'm really sorry to hear you're having a bad episode right now, and I truly hope that you feel even a touch better in any time to come, mastuzaka 🫂.


Love is often small too ♥. Like the emotional equivalent of little glimmers on reflective things. Or just being curious about the way someone does things.

I think a fair definition of love is "any appreciation felt for a human being". Let's say you're having a conversation with someone, and they make a joke, that happens to be really funny, and you laugh heartily :). You may feel some kind of positive emotion towards this person. You may feel an increased wish to talk with them or spend time with them when you can. A lot of people just describe this as "liking" a person but honestly this is a key part of love too, having that simple kind of "being pulled towards someone", even when it's not super grand.

Attraction comes from a Latin word that implies "to be pulled towards". That's something I think of when trying to define love.



Ultimately, in your own life and your own emotions, you have power over how you define love. And that… can be different from what other people around you define as love.


Ironically, the struggle to understand what "love" exactly is, is something that is experienced from those bathing in love to those who feel distanced from it 💗. It is possible to understand what love is, even if you do not have a ton of it in your life 🫂. We are constantly exploring and wondering in this regard; and this also creates new perspective and idea on how love can express too :).


first; i am really so sorry to hear that 🫂. i know that really hurt you ❤️‍🩹. and that in those times you felt like you had nobody who was safe, nobody you feel that you could trust to not hurt you.

And this desire for safety, to not be hurt, be it emotionally, socially, or physically—I believe that has a real role in love too.

Love is also a desire to feel connected to someone. You can love someone who you feel far away from. That desire to be closer to them—even if that person is far away—that is a form of love, too.

Ultimately, I think this word "love" is used to describe a lot of different human social phenomena. We love a book, we love to experience this, we love this person—one can see how it is used in many different ways. Is this the same feeling for different things, or different ways of feeling? The curiosity could remain—and dare I say—sustain, haha~ x3


"Unconditional love". This term is a bit tricky. Please indulge me in a theoretical example. Let us say someone loves the way your hands and body move when you talk. And let us say you also happen to enjoy indulging in talk quite commonly. This person, if they love that expression-relating habit of yours, will also naturally feel love for you whenever they can see you talking. Is that "unconditional love"?

I don't know what "unconditional love" is. But I do know that so much of our nature—even what we choose to do!—can turn into habits, natural ways that we act and live. And yes our own free will choices can influence these "natural habits" too; especially what we lean into in our hours too; what we love to do, and experience—these can become facets of what we express to others too. Let us say you engage in some hobby or read some author a lot, and you find someone else who loves that same hobby and that same author too. Even if you have not read that author in a long time, or have not dealt with that hobby in a good while, you still both have a shared love of that thing. That can be one "shared source"—or "shared channel"—of love, as well.

Or let us say that there is such a circumstance where two people end up serving some kind of function for each other; for example, classmates in a difficult class who are pressured to study with one another. And let us say that these two people like studying with each other; and feel that both of them play their role just fine. And so these two people spend time with one another. And naturally that can easily reveal deeper parts of who they are and what goes on in their lives. And the more they learn about each other, the more they see; and the more possibility for love there is. How so? The more you explore a scene, the higher the chance that you are captured harmoniously by some thing within in; and the further you wander from thereon, the higher the chance is that you are further captured more :), and maybe even drawn in deeper, too ^^.

We don't actually need "unconditional" love; just loving something that is stable enough in our life or identity such that any love attached to that facet feels secure enough for us to sleep well at night, is more than enough, I feel :). Or having that love connected to a role in our life or situation that we feel is sufficiently secure, too.

And love can spring forth from one cause, yet end up changing and actually being sustained by another—or by multiple other sources, too. Someone can love someone for reason A, get to know them deeper, find more reasons (reasons B and C) and end up loving them for, say, reason C instead. And maybe they keep exploring and shifting from reason to reason, with the love for that person remaining all along—just changing, folding through different forms :). Like a kaleidoscope.

What do you feel for other people, matsuzuka? ♥ Your feelings deserve to be described in their own terms 🤗. There are many different definitions of love :). How would you describe the way you feel towards others, others who you like to spend time with or would be happy to spend time with given the opportunity? ^^ 🤗
i dont have the energy to reply to this in full but i would like you to know that it really resonated with me. from the bottom of my heart i thank you. you have a very beautiful way of viewing the world. perhaps i was looking at love through too rigid of a lense; thank you for showing me its flexibility

What do you feel for other people, matsuzuka? ♥ Your feelings deserve to be described in their own terms 🤗. There are many different definitions of love :). How would you describe the way you feel towards others, others who you like to spend time with or would be happy to spend time with given the opportunity? ^^ 🤗
i suppose i mainly struggle to feel my emotions first handedly. in a lot of situations i typically feel like "oh this happened so i am supposed to be happy right now". obviously its not as literal in the moment but it feels like everything i think has to be carefully screened and analyzed before i am allowed to feel it. its something ive had to do for a long time probably due to autism and bpd.

i still feel a sense of attatchment between me and other people in my life despite it being always a little dull and maybe that in itself can be a form of love, even if it is not as flowery as described in the things i read.
 
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N-methylamphetamine

N-methylamphetamine

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Jul 6, 2022
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you can feel love if you've never expirenced it. It comes with your instincts. Im sorry to hear what you struggled with
 
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limenlux

limenlux

Impermanent
Jul 12, 2026
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Having grown up in an environment that wasn't very loving or affectionate, I felt a bit estranged from my own emotions, even in romantic relationships. I didn't fall in love until I was in my mid-20s, and it was a shocking experience. I would say I simultaneously hated being in love and the loss of control it entailed, while I enjoyed every moment of loving the girl with whom I was together for the best year and a half or so of my life.
 
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Nov 25, 2024
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i think it's always possible to be loved no matter who you are. a lot of ppl view it as this thing that comes into ur life when ur perfect and super healed but even some of the worst ppl to ever exist have found love somehow. nobody ever needs to be "loveable" in order to be loved, imo its more just about compatibility with those around you. and there's billions of people on this planet, so everyone has to be compatible with at least one other person.
 
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