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Can a whole bottle of citalopram and alcohol kill me ?
 
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CTBing with antidepressants very rarely ever works, and even when it does, I've heard it's not as pleasant of a CTB than other drug overdoses. Plus if you survive (and you most likely will), you'll most likely get serotonin syndrome.
 
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CTBing with antidepressants very rarely ever works, and even when it does, I've heard it's not as pleasant of a CTB than other drug overdoses. Plus if you survive (and you most likely will), you'll most likely get serotonin syndrome.
What is the serotonin syndrom ?
 
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Serotonin syndrome has a wide variety of symptoms, but the most common ones are very high body temperate, increased heart rate, muscle spasms and even seizures.
 
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CTBing with antidepressants very rarely ever works, and even when it does, I've heard it's not as pleasant of a CTB than other drug overdoses. Plus if you survive (and you most likely will), you'll most likely get serotonin syndrome.
alcohol with benzodiazepines instead (a huge dose) would be effective?
 
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alcohol with benzodiazepines instead (a huge dose) would be effective?
I dunno if alcohol + benzos would be enough. I only ever hear those two working alongside another drug that can actually be lethal (barbiturates or opioids). I don't know if it's possible to CTB on just alcohol + benzos. Chances are you'd have to drink so much alcohol, you'd die of alcohol poisoning anyways and the benzos would only just make the process less uncomfortable.
 
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just make the process less uncomfortable.
yeah that's what I had in mind.
maybe combining with those, an opioid like tramadol for eg
so alcohol+benzo+opioid would require not so astronomic amounts of each and the benzos would somewhat smooth the process, not to mention they depress the central nervous system so I believe it might actually enhance it
 
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yeah that's what I had in mind.
maybe combining with those, an opioid like tramadol for eg
so alcohol+benzo+opioid would require not so astronomic amounts of each and the benzos would somewhat smooth the process, not to mention they depress the central nervous system so I believe it might actually enhance it
I think you overestimate the effect each of those 3 have.

Yes, both benzos and alcohol can help potentiate most drugs like opioids and barbiturates, but they won't be as effective as taking a larger dose of said lethal drug. What I'm trying to say is they shouldn't be used to help make up for a lower dose, but rather to give a higher dose more chance of success.

Also sadly tramadol is an incredibly weak opioid, it's only 1/10th the strength of morphine, and morphine isn't a strong opioid to begin with. The 5-drug mix in the PPeH uses 15g of morphine, and that's in combination with 4 other drugs. So I imagine if you tried CTBing on morphine alone, you'd have to take more than 15g, say about 25g.

For any good chance of CTBing on tramadol I think you'd have to take 250g of it, and that's a lot.
 
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I took far too much serotonin by accident years ago. It kept me awake for nearly 48 hours, and hyper agitated. I wouldn't recommended it.

If you want to OD, you need to source some very strong, prescription medication. There are plenty of choices, but all of them are going to come from the dark web. Easily acquired drugs would not be easily accessible if they were capable of killing easily.
 
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Dewey

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I think you overestimate the effect each of those 3 have.

Yes, both benzos and alcohol can help potentiate most drugs like opioids and barbiturates, but they won't be as effective as taking a larger dose of said lethal drug. What I'm trying to say is they shouldn't be used to help make up for a lower dose, but rather to give a higher dose more chance of success.

Also sadly tramadol is an incredibly weak opioid, it's only 1/10th the strength of morphine, and morphine isn't a strong opioid to begin with. The 5-drug mix in the PPeH uses 15g of morphine, and that's in combination with 4 other drugs. So I imagine if you tried CTBing on morphine alone, you'd have to take more than 15g, say about 25g.

For any good chance of CTBing on tramadol I think you'd have to take 250g of it, and that's a lot.
shit ain't easy.
Fentanyl best option then?
Is fentanyl easy to obtain from the dw or will be prone to scam?
 
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shit ain't easy.
Fentanyl best option then?
Is fentanyl easy to obtain from the dw or will be prone to scam?
I only know of 1 source of fentanyl on the dark web and I dunno if it's legit or not. You should take a look into nitazenes, isotonitazene is a very good one because it's said to be slightly stronger than fentanyl.
 
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