Can I use Slipknot for full suspension hanging?

[purplesky9]

I know a noose knot is recommended but because I have to tie the anchor knot first I have to use the tail end of the rope to tie my noose so my noose turns into a slipnot

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Actually, a noose is not recommended. That type knot was used back in the old days of the gallows. A good slip is better.

 

[purplesky9]

You might be thinking of a hangman's noose. A noose knot is different.

 

[AreWeWinning]

I know a noose knot is recommended but because I have to tie the anchor knot first I have to use the tail end of the rope to tie my noose so my noose turns into a slipnot

That doesn't quite make sense. If you tie an anchor first, and then you tie a Noose Knot on the rope, then the tail end becomes just the tail end, and the other end (which is tied to the anchor point) becomes the weight-bearing end or the 'slipping end' of the Noose Knot, and all is as it should be. It is possible to tie a Slip Knot on the rope too, but then if you try to use that as a noose, it'll just come undone.

Slip Knot ≠ Noose Knot ≠ Hangman's Noose. These are all different knots.

Btw, put a stopper knot (e.g., an Overhand Knot) on the tail end of the Noose Knot too as it can be unreliable on its own.

 

[purplesky9]

So you can't use a Slipknot as a noose

 

[Forveleth]

So you can't use a Slipknot as a noose

You can, you just have to tie it first before you tie your anchor. This is what I do.

You can absolutely use a noose knot with your anchor already attached. Here is a video:

 

[purplesky9]

But if I tie it first I have too much rope when I go to tie the anchor knot.

 

[AreWeWinning]

But if I tie it first I have too much rope when I go to tie the anchor knot.

Too much rope isn't a problem. If it's a long rope, and you don't want to cut it, then it has to go somewhere, so you'll have a long rope either at the noose's side, or the anchor's side.

Here is what you could do:

• Tie the rope to your anchor point, and leave enough rope on the weight-bearing end. It should be long enough, so that it comes down to the desired height and there's still enough rope to tie the noose. If it's too long and there's excess rope, that's not a problem.
• Pull on the rope, and test whether the anchor point is secure.
• Tie a Noose Knot in the rope. Once that's complete, tie an Overhand Stopper on the tail end (or loose end) of the Noose Knot, as close to the Noose Knot as possible. To be clear, this will be the end that is dangling, not the one leading to the anchor point.
• If there's excess rope on the tail end, that's not a problem, it can be of any length, it doesn't matter. It can make tying the knots a bit uncomfortable, but it won't affect the Noose Knot functionally.
• Test the noose: put your wrist in it and pull it downwards. If the noose tightens around your wrist as you pull it down, that means you've tied it correctly. If it doesn't, then you've tied it incorrectly.

The video Forveleth linked above shows two ways to tie the Noose Knot. If the rope is relatively short, both methods work. If the rope is very long, the first one is more convenient. Note that the video does not include any stopper knots, and you need to add that as well – it's really simple. Tie it in the tail end of the Noose Knot, and tie it as close to the Noose Knot as possible. Here are some instructions: Overhand Knot

 

[purplesky9]

In the videos I watched you're supposed to take a bite (piece of rope) from the tail end of the rope to make a slip knot and the opposite end to make a noose.

 

[AreWeWinning]

In the videos I watched you're supposed to take a bite (piece of rope) from the tail end of the rope to make a slip knot and the opposite end to make a noose.

Stop calling it a Slip Knot. It's a Noose Knot. Although the difference is only the direction in which you tie it and which end is which, but it's an important distinction. If you're searching for guides for a "slip knot", that might actually be the problem.

At this point, honestly, I'm not sure whether you're just trolling, or whether you're sober. I don't know what I could tell you. Have you actually tried what I wrote above? If you did, and you post *exactly* why that didn't work, or in what way the *outcome* is different from your expectation, then I might be able to help. But I'm close to giving up.