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hopelessgirl

hopelessgirl

Mage
Oct 12, 2021
512
Is the absurdity of my life a good enough reason to go?



 
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Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

Enlightened
Apr 5, 2020
1,875
Imo, it's silly to ever ask permission to ctb. People who like to adjudicate "well, this reason is good but that one isn't" don't share my support for an untrammeled right to die.
 
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VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
Is the absurdity of my life a good enough reason to go?



Yes, it is your choice as it is your body and brain. However, if you can find a way to keep going to seek your own happiness then I'd prefer that.
 
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WorthlessMoron

WorthlessMoron

My cowardness is keeping me alive.
Sep 26, 2019
46
You never had the choice, or "consent" to be born in the first place, so I think as long as you want to kill yourself, it's okay, no matter what the reason is. You don't need to ask if the reason is good enough as long as you want to do it.
 
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lostundead

lostundead

Student
Mar 18, 2021
192
According to Camus, it's a reason to stay alive.
 
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rationaltake

rationaltake

I'm rocking it - in another universe
Sep 28, 2021
2,707
That's for you to decide.
 
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hopelessgirl

hopelessgirl

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Oct 12, 2021
512
According to Camus, it's a reason to stay alive.
Oh really? I'll have to read his books again then. I read "L'étranger" and "Rhinoceros" before I was suicidal. Or actually the same year I started having my first suicidal thoughts. Even did analysis of them at university.
Yes, it is your choice as it is your body and brain. However, if you can find a way to keep going to seek your own happiness then I'd prefer that.

I can find meaning in eliminating dust from every object in our house, and waiting for every meal. Every action is done with great effort. I feel like a robot, and I do lose myself in it when I start. Every centimeter of my surroundings judged to the smallest detail. And so I can barely move outside the house. The big world doesn't exist anymore to me. There is definitely a cyclic meaning to my life. Reduced to that of a simple animal in a cage I guess. I've read a fair bit of mindfulness so I know it is possible to keep living like this but it's just such a great contrast to the life of a bird I lived before I am not sure if I can accept it... Even though I guess this is always what I've have dreamed of, I'm afraid I arrived here too late. It seems like my brain is broken, seeing bars instead of roots. And changing the perception is so hard.
 
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lostundead

lostundead

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Mar 18, 2021
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Oh really? I'll have to read his books again then. I read "L'étranger" and "Rhinoceros" before I was suicidal. Or actually the same year I started having my first suicidal thoughts. Even did analysis of them at university.
He talks about it in the myth of sisyphos. I haven't read it yet but it sounds very interesting and I hope I'll get to it soon.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,338
We all have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing, and nobody needs to justify their reasons for leaving. Suicide is a personal decision and it is up to you. I believe that wanting suicide can be perfectly rational in a world like this, life is just meaningless suffering. I do not want to have to deal with a miserable existence for many more decades and that is my choice. To me, it is horrifying that life is even a thing in the first place, life is completely unnecessary. I wish you the best in whatever happens.
 
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MewtwoIsAlive

MewtwoIsAlive

Suffering
Jul 11, 2020
226
Yes, my life is kinda absurbed in some way. Although most of it is just shitty.
To your questiin my answer will be no, unless the pain is unbearable and you know you have no other choice (that nothing will make your life better or resolve your issues).
 
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WadeingThru

WadeingThru

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Feb 25, 2022
209
Is the absurdity of my life a good enough reason to go?



Do what you want. Don't ask for permission. Just don't do something you will regret. Think it through and talk to someone you trust.
 
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Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

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Apr 5, 2020
1,875
Yes, my life is kinda absurbed in some way. Although most of it is just shitty.
To your questiin my answer will be no, unless the pain is unbearable and you know you have no other choice (that nothing will make your life better or resolve your issues).
The thing is, you can never know if trying X will lead to any improvement or not. The list of "things to try" to attempt to improve your "mental health" is quite literally infinite. Some people will advocate absurd ideas like trying this random fish oil or whatever, claiming it's the mana of the gods which cure all your ills. But as silly as their ideas may be, how can you truly dismiss it before actually trying it out? The answer is, you can't. But people don't have the time or money to try all the endless recommendations.
 
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Sherri

Sherri

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Sep 28, 2020
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Well we all have a reason to ctb , we all have a specific reason, you just need to make sure ,that is what you want and think about it very well.
 
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Someone123

Illuminated
Oct 19, 2021
3,875
Is the absurdity of my life a good enough reason to go?



Truthfully my opinion is that it doesn't seem like a good decision to ctb for a reason like that, typically some form of lasting deep unhappiness is a motivation to ctb that stands up to reason, but being absurd by itself doesn't seem to preclude happiness at all; I personally wouldn't throw away a life that has real potential for a reason like that; at keast 90% of the lives in this world seem to be clearly worth living; in the bottom 5% especially as far as quality of life goes it gets questionable;. in the bottom 1% of quality of life most people do ctb eventually, for good reason- to stop their suffering.
 
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hopelessgirl

hopelessgirl

Mage
Oct 12, 2021
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Truthfully my opinion is that it doesn't seem like a good decision to ctb for a reason like that, typically some form of lasting deep unhappiness is a motivation to ctb that stands up to reason, but being absurd by itself doesn't seem to preclude happiness at all; I personally wouldn't throw away a life that has real potential for a reason like that; at keast 90% of the lives in this world seem to be clearly worth living; in the bottom 5% especially as far as quality of life goes it gets questionable;. in the bottom 1% of quality of life most people do ctb eventually, for good reason- to stop their suffering.
I am also severely depressed. But I think the deep cause of my depression is that absurdity, and that I've just ended up emptying my life because of it. And what is left is an empty life. Even though I have a loving boyfriend and even a loving dog, but the only thing I can feel is the suffering pain from the psychic pain of the absurdity of it all. I don't know if I'll ever be able to work again because of my disfunctionality, and my life is reduced to the dread of performing only the simple tasks in life, not having any purpose beyond that.
 
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cocainenosejobs

A little lost but going home
Feb 21, 2022
40
A reason is a reason
 
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Al Cappella

Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
888
Is the absurdity of my life a good enough reason to go?



Absolutely you can. The unbearable lightness of being and all that. Or you can because it's Saturday. Then again, you don't need a reason at all…
 
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hopelessgirl

hopelessgirl

Mage
Oct 12, 2021
512
Absolutely you can. The unbearable lightness of being and all that. Or you can because it's Saturday. Then again, you don't need a reason at all…
Another book I read BEFORE I ever became suicidal. I guess you're right. Our life is ours. If I think I have a reason, then I do.
 
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Graytaichi

Wizard
Feb 14, 2022
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Yes, it is your choice as it is your body and brain. However, if you can find a way to keep going to seek your own happiness then I'd prefer that.
You should not seek opinion from others . Who are we to judge you.
 
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Someone123

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Oct 19, 2021
3,875
I am also severely depressed. But I think the deep cause of my depression is that absurdity, and that I've just ended up emptying my life because of it. And what is left is an empty life. Even though I have a loving boyfriend and even a loving dog, but the only thing I can feel is the suffering pain from the psychic pain of the absurdity of it all. I don't know if I'll ever be able to work again because of my disfunctionality, and my life is reduced to the dread of performing only the simple tasks in life, not having any purpose beyond that.
If you are deeply unhappy for a long period of time and can't find a solution to it, that seems like a reason that makes sense. However, my opinion is that if absurdity in life in the core reason, that seems like it could be a solvable problem, that there is real potential to solve a problem like this and then to become happy, depending on what you mean by absurdity- that prettyu general and it could refer to a lot of different things. It would be interesting to know specifically what you mean by absurdity to see if others might have a different perspective that could help- in my opinion this would be worth trying, but it's up to you. :)
 
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hopelessgirl

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Oct 12, 2021
512
You should not seek opinion from others . Who are we to judge you.
You're right. I guess I'm just struggling to make the right decision. I can't even do suicide right
 
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whatevs

whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
2,913
You're right. I guess I'm just struggling to make the right decision. I can't even do suicide right
No, that poster isn't right. You can and should seek opinions, that's for what the fckn forum is for.

My opinion is that you should be able to do with your life as you please, as long as it doesn't harm significantly anybody else.
 
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orange

orange

Experienced
Nov 19, 2021
243
No, that poster isn't right. You can and should seek opinions, that's for what the fckn forum is for.
should i take a shit now or later
 
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Life sucks

Visionary
Apr 18, 2018
2,134
There is nothing like a good reason or bad reason. It's up to what you see and think.

That being said, life being absurd shouldn't be underestimated as a reason. Too much experienced absurdity damages the brain.
 
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Lost Magic

Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,203
Life itself is absurd. It is good to know that there is always the choice of living or not living. I think it would be harder to go on, if we didn't have that option. A lot of people who survived the Golden Gate bridge, said the moment they jumped they immediately regretted it. I chalk that down to survival mechanism, however, they lived anyway. And many are glad they did. Maybe they learned to appreciate life more or were able to find better ways of coping because of their near death experience. Who knows, but the fact that they had that choice to jump in the first place was a blessing. I think that applies to many of us.
 
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Someone123

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Oct 19, 2021
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Life itself is absurd. It is good to know that there is always the choice of living or not living. I think it would be harder to go on, if we didn't have that option. A lot of people who survived the Golden Gate bridge, said the moment they jumped they immediately regretted it. I chalk that down to survival mechanism, however, they lived anyway. And many are glad they did. Maybe they learned to appreciate life more or were able to find better ways of coping because of their near death experience. Who knows, but the fact that they had that choice to jump in the first place was a blessing. I think that applies to many of us.
For me, if I could jump off the Golden Gate Bridge I would take it and I'm 99% sure I wouldn't regret it based on the hope that the next life will be better- I wouldn't try it there due to the security, though, unless I lived in tha area and I could go there a lot and learn the details about the security. Soon the net will be completed and this option will be gone anyway- not sure how soon, though, it keeps getting postponed.
 
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MewtwoIsAlive

Suffering
Jul 11, 2020
226
The thing is, you can never know if trying X will lead to any improvement or not. The list of "things to try" to attempt to improve your "mental health" is quite literally infinite. Some people will advocate absurd ideas like trying this random fish oil or whatever, claiming it's the mana of the gods which cure all your ills. But as silly as their ideas may be, how can you truly dismiss it before actually trying it out? The answer is, you can't. But people don't have the time or money to try all the endless recommendations.

You are not right, not in every situation there is an infinite amount if options. In my situation I tried everything.
 

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