Discussion Can anyone “save” you?

[Fadeawaaaay]

A lot of people here are upset at their families and society for not "saving" them… Believing you can be saved is actually hopeful, but how, specifically do you think you could be saved?

 

[HiImPaul]

I don't think I could be personally. But many people want to CTB because they're lonely or can't find a partner. So those people probably could be.

 

[Aeathelina]

If I'm being a unsentimental crab then I would say a super rich sugar partner that could give me all the money in the world so that I have finally get good treatment for my my mental health .

 

[nerve]

Someone might not be able to save a person from ctbing, but they can almost certainly try to help them reach a place where they no longer want to die.

At the same time, the choice whether or not to attempt suicide is ultimately up to the individual. I personally believe that other people have no obligation or responsibility to help me here. It's really nice if they do, but keeping me alive isn't their responsibility. It's mine.

 

[ClownMe]

I don't think I could be saved at this point, my brain is too far gone.

 

[bed]

I don't believe so. Only I can save myself and I've exhausted basically all my options.

Even when I was in a loving relationship, I still wanted to CTB and my suicidal thoughts did not stop. If anything that just shows I'll be suicidal forever, considering I had everything I wanted and yet I still wanted to die.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

If they took a small amount of time to help me with social anxiety stuff and help me meet people so i'd finally get a date or at least a few decent friends i'd be fine. But that would demand spending time and effort on me, and im way too worthless for that, i mean, they have tv shows they can watch instead.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

I'm too far gone at this point. The person I'd need, if I were to be saved, is basically just a copy of myself.

 

[Dead Meat]

There isn't anyone or anything that could save me:
Broken body
Broken mind
Broken heart

 

[Deleted member 8579]

There is no one who could possibly "save" me.
I am fundamentally disgusted with existence and believe that non-existence is always preferable to it.
I need to be saved from life, not from death.

 

[9BBN]

The only way to save me is with a time machine.

 

[HeckingHecked]

There is no one who could possibly "save" me.
I am fundamentally disgusted with existence and believe that non-existence is always preferable to it.
I need to be saved from life, not from death.

Same. I don't even want to die, really. I just strongly desire non-existence.

 

[TerminallyAlive]

If there was someone who could spare me some $, maybe, but there isn't. It really is the final straw that I can't afford to keep myself housed.

 

[nameeater]

yes. not completely, obviously, but if my ex boyfriend came back into my life i'd definitely begin recovering. sadly, this will never happen.

 

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my ex and love of my life. her and only her. i could go from nothing to everything again. it is quite astonishing the impact she has.

 

[D&D]

I wish there could be a simple answer ... but there isn't.

Some people go through incredible hardships (think concentration camps and alike) and still do not attempt or even consider suicide. For others broken relationship, loss of income, or similar major tragedy is more then enough to end their lives. Could they have been saved if the tragedy did not occur ... probably. But the thing is, in my view at least, the very fact that their response to what ever tragedy had befallen them was a suicide - indicates deeply rooted sadness. Or, as medical and other mental health professionals would say, 'poor or undeveloped coping mechanism'. I interpret that to mean - accumulation of trauma likely starting in childhood. If one is to be helped, really helped, not just 'saved' from the immediate crisis then left to their own devices, careful, genuinely compassionate approach would start there. At the root cause of the problem. Countless people lose love of their lives, or their income, or homes, ever day. Probably every hour of every day. Only a few respond with suicide. Maybe they would irrespective of how much genuine help they were provided with ... to know that they would first have to receive or at least be offered such help. In my experience - it rarely, if ever happens.

It is one thing, as Virginia Woolf said, 'to know life for what it is, and then, to put it away', and completely another to end it to end the suffering brought by whatever tragedy occurred.

 

[it's_all_a_game]

No, the reasons why I want to die are too deep-rooted in how our society is set up to change. Maybe if I could destroy this world & remake it into a better one like in an old JRPG...

 

[Deleted member 32964]

People find happiness and "religion" and feel "saved" that way. Even prisoners. They feel something. You might try it. I hated it - but I know a lot of people who swear by it. Some people need someone they can be with all of the time, a family and constant "attention" and to do things together. Personally - I'd kill myself before I'd enjoy that but yeah, some people feel that they need "Love" and cannot go on without it.

They'll "KILL" for it.

Try - maybe you are lonely. No kind of church person has ever atrracted me or the lifestyle, generally. I didn't go. Peolple do and it works for their missing piece.

-'scuse me while I puke and get another drink :)

my ex and love of my life. her and only her. i could go from nothing to everything again. it is quite astonishing the impact she has.

LET HER GO. Shit, get a new one. I hate to be an asshole. Don't let a woman keep you in bed sleeping, all day long - down. I am one. I am a woman and don't understand what is wrong with you. There are women, everywhere. Don't die for a woman. Go find a new one.

No, the reasons why I want to die are too deep-rooted in how our society is set up to change. Maybe if I could destroy this world & remake it into a better one like in an old JRPG...

maybe you could find a job changing your world. People get into that. even volunteer, a little. i was rewarded finding medical equipment for low income people. I found wheelchairs, power scooters, bariatric beds, power chairs, pottys, things people without mobility needed. None of it was religious. I even met a MUSLIM doing the same. he promised to DONATE. Shit. it can be fun to see others suffering ended and see them on their way to better.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

I wish there could be a simple answer ... but there isn't.

Some people go through incredible hardships (think concentration camps and alike) and still do not attempt or even consider suicide. For others broken relationship, loss of income, or similar major tragedy is more then enough to end their lives. Could they have been saved if the tragedy did not occur ... probably. But the thing is, in my view at least, the very fact that their response to what ever tragedy had befallen them was a suicide - indicates deeply rooted sadness. Or, as medical and other mental health professionals would say, 'poor or undeveloped coping mechanism'. I interpret that to mean - accumulation of trauma likely starting in childhood. If one is to be helped, really helped, not just 'saved' from the immediate crisis then left to their own devices, careful, genuinely compassionate approach would start there. At the root cause of the problem. Countless people lose love of their lives, or their income, or homes, ever day. Probably every hour of every day. Only a few respond with suicide. Maybe they would irrespective of how much genuine help they were provided with ... to know that they would first have to receive or at least be offered such help. In my experience - it rarely, if ever happens.

It is one thing, as Virginia Woolf said, 'to know life for what it is, and then, to put it away', and completely another to end it to end the suffering brought by whatever tragedy occurred.

An excellent observation. Some setbacks are so profound they understandably inspire suicide. But others, like what I experienced, only inspire suicide in somebody who is already deeply broken, likely by some trauma rooted in childhood.

 

[motel rooms]

LET HER GO. Shit, get a new one. I hate to be an asshole. Don't let a woman keep you in bed sleeping, all day long - down. I am one. I am a woman and don't understand what is wrong with you. There are women, everywhere. Don't die for a woman. Go find a new one.

Some people can't be replaced.

 

[Mental]

I don't expect to be saved. I don't think anyone will be able to save me, nor do I want them to, why should they? It's my decision. If it's true that when I'm with my family I feel like shouting "I'm fucking dying help me please, I can't anymore, I'm alone in here". But then I remember that it would be selfish of me, to live, to die, to follow or not to choose, not to blame our problems, failures or loneliness to those around us, they do not know everything. Peace and be free

 

[Insomniac]

I'll give you a realistic answer:

no. because I'll never feel good enough.

 

[BlazingBob]

Aside from a cure being developed for a disease I have, no. I'm sick. I can barely function. Zero quality of life. The side effects of the medication I take are almost as bad as the disease itself. There are no other options. I've spent ten plus years trying. It's just not worth living like this. No one or nothing can change my health problem. I'll continue feeling like crap regardless, that is until I take matters in to my own hands.

 

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I wish there could be a simple answer ... but there isn't.

Some people go through incredible hardships (think concentration camps and alike) and still do not attempt or even consider suicide. For others broken relationship, loss of income, or similar major tragedy is more then enough to end their lives. Could they have been saved if the tragedy did not occur ... probably. But the thing is, in my view at least, the very fact that their response to what ever tragedy had befallen them was a suicide - indicates deeply rooted sadness. Or, as medical and other mental health professionals would say, 'poor or undeveloped coping mechanism'. I interpret that to mean - accumulation of trauma likely starting in childhood. If one is to be helped, really helped, not just 'saved' from the immediate crisis then left to their own devices, careful, genuinely compassionate approach would start there. At the root cause of the problem. Countless people lose love of their lives, or their income, or homes, ever day. Probably every hour of every day. Only a few respond with suicide. Maybe they would irrespective of how much genuine help they were provided with ... to know that they would first have to receive or at least be offered such help. In my experience - it rarely, if ever happens.

It is one thing, as Virginia Woolf said, 'to know life for what it is, and then, to put it away', and completely another to end it to end the suffering brought by whatever tragedy occurred.

this is my exact outlook on it as well. i even wrote a poem on it (see image). like loads of people never recover from losing a loved one but not everyone CTBs. like yes it is my reason for CTBing but that doesn't mean it isn't my mental illness that is responsible. yes i would never ctb if i never went through this life event but equally i would never have CTBed if i didn't have mental illness.

Some people can't be replaced.

Said it before and will say it again, heartbreak is the most stigmatised reason on this website. @[email protected] - im very aware I
could meet other women but I don't want to that's the problem. It's ok if you don't understand, there are other mental illnesses out there that I can't resonate with because i've never experienced them but i don't dismiss it can't be the reason for someone's ctb.
if i wanted to i could log on to tinder right now and arrange a shag tonight. if i wanted to i could carry on struggling through with the pain of life and eventually i will meet another lover. but i have neither the motivation or the energy or the strength - no matter how hard i try - to do any one of those two things. i'm anhedonic now, my anxiety has been triggered beyond repair, and i am so depressed that i don't leave my bed.

 

[dresdendoller]

I don't know if anyone could, but I wish that someone wanted to. I'm very much a lost cause in the eyes of my family, friends, the mental health system, etc... Which is actually kind of bizarre because I've known people with way worse mental health and life situations than me that people don't seem to give up on, but for some reason I'm too much.

 

[Choco]

No, bc I also cant save myself.

 

[clown_17]

Nope. Expecting to be saved only makes things worse. The only person possible of saving yourself is you, and sometimes that isn't even enough.

 

[BloodyNobody]

No, My heart may be beating but my life is over