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I just came back from Peru. And during my time there I successfully purchased 6 bottles of halatal 50ml/bottle.

Halatal is the Peru version of N.

Wouldn't not share/pm names/places but want to focus on methods/strategies.

A little background: I live in a western country, I am a visually identifiable minority and I do not speak Spanish.

I first went to Cusco. After some research on PPeH, it is true that you should only go to the street called "tres cruces de oro". Since halatal is for vet use, you should search "agroveterinaria" and a list of stores will come up. This is very important as this product isn't going to be available in regular pet stores.

These agroveterinarias are all clustered on this street. I stopped at one after another and mostly got turned down (they don't have it) or being offered halatal KT. They will say "ketamina" in Spanish. That's NOT the one you want.

One store offered me halatal X, it's also the WRONG product. It's basically a horse tranquilizer.

PPeH stated a couple of names, I went to all of them and none has halatal. One store said they will have it on Saturday but I can't stay that long.

One of the stores is likely owned by a middle aged lady, upon hearing what I'm looking for, she got upset and said sth in Spanish to ask me to leave, along the lines I recognized the word American. Seems like she is fully aware of the purpose of purchasing N.

I went to over 10 agro vet stores and getting a little frustrated, reaching the end of street, the last store I went in said they have it. This person went to grab 4 bottles for me and the price is 60 soles/bottle.

Since I do not speak Spanish and a visually identifiable minority in the western world, I am definitely a tourist in their mind. I used google translate and a photo from corp montana (the manufacturer of halatal) and the process is as smooth as it could get.

Moving on to Lima, since my goal was to get 4 bottles, I don't need to get more in Lima. But after a museum visit and failed to get taxi, I end up at that place mentioned in PPeH, at north gate. I walked by a store and asked a shop person (with google translate), they said it's for prescription only but could sell me at an upcharge. So clearly they know about this other use and just to make some extra cash. Since it's this easy I bought another two bottles and left. I paid more than double per bottle than in Cusco. And this is the first and only store I visited in Lima.

The reason I don't want to specify names of shops or even gender of ppl who sold to me is literally because I hope these sources will last as long as they could be. In Cusco, it seems like they have no idea this N could be used otherwise, they just simply don't have it. (Except that lady in the store of which the name ends in helen)

I once thought I'd want to visit Manchu picchu and end my life in a really nice hotel/resort in Cusco, but after seeing how pure this place is, I'm not sure if I have the heart to do it here. Not so much about me but to the people in Cusco. Lima would be a terrible idea to end your life, it's a sprawling messy dusty big city.

last but very important note, with the high altitude in Cusco, you will definitely need prescription pills for altitude sickness. You might also want to get yellow fever vaccine and a couple of other vaccines to avoid any unwanted hassle.
Did you take the 4 bottles that u bought in cusco to lima? If so did you do that by plain?
 
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sash

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With one more post you'd have PMs available! I'd like to talk to you since I have a particular interest in keeping track of N access. You haven't done anything wrong, don't worry!
Hi, can I ask why you have particular interest in keeping track of N access?
Also pls be aware that when u tell someone they havent done anything wrong, one immed worries they have.... esp as op posted w confidence and clarity in a lot of detail.


Anyone new here please remember everyone is faceless & could be anyone, even w bad intent no matter their position. Do not trust w info in DMs until u r very sure.
 
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Hi, can I ask why you have particular interest in keeping track of N access?
Also pls be aware that when u tell someone they havent done anything wrong, one immed worries they have.... esp as op posted w confidence and clarity in a lot of detail.


Anyone new here please remember everyone is faceless & could be anyone, even w bad intent no matter their position. Do not trust w info in DMs until u r very sure.
I'm a moderator... And have been for nearly a year? I don't want people on this website getting scammed... FFS. Before you accuse me of stuff like this you could at least look at the literal "Global Mod" under my name and know what the purple name means.
 
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I'm a moderator... And have been for nearly a year? I don't want people on this website getting scammed... FFS. Before you accuse me of stuff like this you could at least look at the literal "Global Mod" under my name and know what the purple name means.
Umm I wasnt accusing u of anything. Arent u a lovely mod... Go read my posts, judge who I am. I do not shout at ppl. I was asking a genuine question. Genuine.
And reminding noobs 2b careful.
 
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Umm I wasnt accusing u of anything. Arent u a lovely mod... Go read my posts, judge who I am. I do not shout at ppl. I was asking a genuine question. Genuine.
And reminding noobs 2b careful.
I ask people who are sharing information on N to discuss privately with me, so I know what information is being circulated on the topic. No one ever gets in trouble for telling me what they know. This is not the kind of website where you can hide things from the people that help ensure its safety so I'm not sure why you're warning people that it may not be safe to talk to me. Cautioning safety is one thing but you said "regardless of position," implying that even long term members of the moderation team are not trustworthy. If you earnestly believe that I'm not sure this website is the best fit for you, because the people who moderate this website are just trying to keep it safe and make sure no one falls for a scam if they're desperate.

I also reassured op they didn't break any rules since I'm a moderator asking them to pm. I didn't want them to think they did anything bad.

also, you say "noobs" but you've only been here since October. That's a few months, sure, but not very long.
 
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I ask people who are sharing information on N to discuss privately with me, so I know what information is being circulated on the topic. No one ever gets in trouble for telling me what they know. This is not the kind of website where you can hide things from the people that help ensure its safety so I'm not sure why you're warning people that it may not be safe to talk to me. Cautioning safety is one thing but you said "regardless of position," implying that even long term members of the moderation team are not trustworthy. If you earnestly believe that I'm not sure this website is the best fit for you, because the people who moderate this website are just trying to keep it safe and make sure no one falls for a scam if they're desperate.

I also reassured op they didn't break any rules since I'm a moderator asking them to pm. I didn't want them to think they did anything bad.

also, you say "noobs" but you've only been here since October. That's a few months, sure, but not very long.
Nobody knows who anyone is.

I'll repeat again, I didnt accuse you. You leapt to that conclusion. Very defensively. An aggressive reply to me...

Ooh low blow... Yes I am a new member, but a very very long term visitor. I finally joined as a member when I was ready, had fully accepted and at peace with my death.

Thankyou for taking the time explaining to me why. It is what I asked of you. 😗

I wish you peace and calm.
 
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Nobody knows who anyone is.

Yeah but this person is a moderator and we're simply trying to prevent scams, for the sake of everyone's safety here. It's not that complicated.
 
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Yeah but this person is a moderator and we're simply trying to prevent scams, for the sake of everyone's safety here. It's not that complicated.
Exactly. In OP's case, they literally didn't do anything wrong. I wanted to know more information about their trip so I could know what others are discussing about N, so if anyone contacts me about suspicious emails etc I could tell them what viable options currently exist. Knowledge is safety in this case, in the interest of harm reduction.
 
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I would do this trip, would be too scared getting caught bringing it back though
 
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Guys, no need to argue over here. My intention is to share source, method. I cannot advise any methods that could be breaking the law. But I'm happy to share my experience openly and things to consider during the trip.

But I would rather focus on sharing sources anonymously to prolong their availability (fingers crossed they won't disappear anytime soon). I think the sources will likely be available for the foreseeable future, but strategy is key in obtaining it.
 
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sanctionedcurious85

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Dec 26, 2023
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I would do this trip, would be too scared getting caught bringing it back though
I would do this trip too. Would love to have a conversation with folks who were successful in getting it home.
I just came back from Peru. And during my time there I successfully purchased 6 bottles of halatal 50ml/bottle.

Halatal is the Peru version of N.

Wouldn't not share/pm names/places but want to focus on methods/strategies.

A little background: I live in a western country, I am a visually identifiable minority and I do not speak Spanish.

I first went to Cusco. After some research on PPeH, it is true that you should only go to the street called "tres cruces de oro". Since halatal is for vet use, you should search "agroveterinaria" and a list of stores will come up. This is very important as this product isn't going to be available in regular pet stores.

These agroveterinarias are all clustered on this street. I stopped at one after another and mostly got turned down (they don't have it) or being offered halatal KT. They will say "ketamina" in Spanish. That's NOT the one you want.

One store offered me halatal X, it's also the WRONG product. It's basically a horse tranquilizer.

PPeH stated a couple of names, I went to all of them and none has halatal. One store said they will have it on Saturday but I can't stay that long.

One of the stores is likely owned by a middle aged lady, upon hearing what I'm looking for, she got upset and said sth in Spanish to ask me to leave, along the lines I recognized the word American. Seems like she is fully aware of the purpose of purchasing N.

I went to over 10 agro vet stores and getting a little frustrated, reaching the end of street, the last store I went in said they have it. This person went to grab 4 bottles for me and the price is 60 soles/bottle.

Since I do not speak Spanish and a visually identifiable minority in the western world, I am definitely a tourist in their mind. I used google translate and a photo from corp montana (the manufacturer of halatal) and the process is as smooth as it could get.

Moving on to Lima, since my goal was to get 4 bottles, I don't need to get more in Lima. But after a museum visit and failed to get taxi, I end up at that place mentioned in PPeH, at north gate. I walked by a store and asked a shop person (with google translate), they said it's for prescription only but could sell me at an upcharge. So clearly they know about this other use and just to make some extra cash. Since it's this easy I bought another two bottles and left. I paid more than double per bottle than in Cusco. And this is the first and only store I visited in Lima.

The reason I don't want to specify names of shops or even gender of ppl who sold to me is literally because I hope these sources will last as long as they could be. In Cusco, it seems like they have no idea this N could be used otherwise, they just simply don't have it. (Except that lady in the store of which the name ends in helen)

I once thought I'd want to visit Manchu picchu and end my life in a really nice hotel/resort in Cusco, but after seeing how pure this place is, I'm not sure if I have the heart to do it here. Not so much about me but to the people in Cusco. Lima would be a terrible idea to end your life, it's a sprawling messy dusty big city.

last but very important note, with the high altitude in Cusco, you will definitely need prescription pills for altitude sickness. You might also want to get yellow fever vaccine and a couple of other vaccines to avoid any unwanted hassle.
Would you be interested in being a travel companion on a return trip?
 
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Ernest1964

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was it ok bringing it on the plane back ?
I have done this once from Mexico, walked across the border and delivered it to someone in the USA. I bought a couple of bottles of tequila and the two bottles of N and I checked the suitcase so it rode in the plane with all the other luggage. No problem at all. Customs are looking for BIG drugs, cocaine, methamphetamine, Fentanyl. The N is in a sealed bottle, it emits no odor so a drug sniffing dog wouldn't alert on it. Even if they see a couple of bottles in the X-ray and the plane is coming from Mexico or even San Diego, do you think THEY think - Oooh, drugs!!! - Chances are, no. They see bottles and they consider the plane is coming from Mexico, they will think tequila, right? There is a saying in the police detective world - when you hear hooves, think horses, NOT zebras.
 
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I just came back from Peru. And during my time there I successfully purchased 6 bottles of halatal 50ml/bottle.

Halatal is the Peru version of N.

Wouldn't not share/pm names/places but want to focus on methods/strategies.

A little background: I live in a western country, I am a visually identifiable minority and I do not speak Spanish.

I first went to Cusco. After some research on PPeH, it is true that you should only go to the street called "tres cruces de oro". Since halatal is for vet use, you should search "agroveterinaria" and a list of stores will come up. This is very important as this product isn't going to be available in regular pet stores.

These agroveterinarias are all clustered on this street. I stopped at one after another and mostly got turned down (they don't have it) or being offered halatal KT. They will say "ketamina" in Spanish. That's NOT the one you want.

One store offered me halatal X, it's also the WRONG product. It's basically a horse tranquilizer.

PPeH stated a couple of names, I went to all of them and none has halatal. One store said they will have it on Saturday but I can't stay that long.

One of the stores is likely owned by a middle aged lady, upon hearing what I'm looking for, she got upset and said sth in Spanish to ask me to leave, along the lines I recognized the word American. Seems like she is fully aware of the purpose of purchasing N.

I went to over 10 agro vet stores and getting a little frustrated, reaching the end of street, the last store I went in said they have it. This person went to grab 4 bottles for me and the price is 60 soles/bottle.

Since I do not speak Spanish and a visually identifiable minority in the western world, I am definitely a tourist in their mind. I used google translate and a photo from corp montana (the manufacturer of halatal) and the process is as smooth as it could get.

Moving on to Lima, since my goal was to get 4 bottles, I don't need to get more in Lima. But after a museum visit and failed to get taxi, I end up at that place mentioned in PPeH, at north gate. I walked by a store and asked a shop person (with google translate), they said it's for prescription only but could sell me at an upcharge. So clearly they know about this other use and just to make some extra cash. Since it's this easy I bought another two bottles and left. I paid more than double per bottle than in Cusco. And this is the first and only store I visited in Lima.

The reason I don't want to specify names of shops or even gender of ppl who sold to me is literally because I hope these sources will last as long as they could be. In Cusco, it seems like they have no idea this N could be used otherwise, they just simply don't have it. (Except that lady in the store of which the name ends in helen)

I once thought I'd want to visit Manchu picchu and end my life in a really nice hotel/resort in Cusco, but after seeing how pure this place is, I'm not sure if I have the heart to do it here. Not so much about me but to the people in Cusco. Lima would be a terrible idea to end your life, it's a sprawling messy dusty big city.

last but very important note, with the high altitude in Cusco, you will definitely need prescription pills for altitude sickness. You might also want to get yellow fever vaccine and a couple of other vaccines to avoid any unwanted hassle.
How did you leave the country with six bottles?
 
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oneeyed

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Would love to buy a couple bottles.
*waits for scammers to dm me*
 
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Shetly

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Jan 4, 2024
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Is it possible to order N online from Peru?
Traveling is not possible for me.
 
Tears in Rain

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Is it possible to order N online from Peru?
Traveling is not possible for me.
If only! People say it's almost impossible to get N on the dark web, never mind the clearnet. Someone mentioned lately of an Ecuadorian source, that only ships to Ecuador and U. S.. Someone else mentioned a Greek source on the dark web.

But it's illegal to import in most countries. So most find it too risky.
From PPeH:
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idnu0114

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Is it possible to order N online from Peru?
Traveling is not possible for me.
If only you know someone who lives there and can ship to you, but in any case I think it will be illegal. Also I'd assume you will most likely get scammed 🥲🫣
 
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cjruhand

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Jan 24, 2024
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Were the two stores that sold you the N listed in the handbook? You don't have to answer that here if you don't want.

I tried sending you a message but your page pops up with the words "This member limits who may view their full profile." Is mine the same?
 
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Were the two stores that sold you the N listed in the handbook? You don't have to answer that here if you don't want.

I tried sending you a message but your page pops up with the words "This member limits who may view their full profile." Is mine the same?
The forum does that automatically, go to your "privacy" settings to change it.
Just put your mouse cursor over their name/profile picture for a few seconds and a sort of mini-profile (there's probably a hip cool name for it that I don't know about but YOU KNOW WHAT I SPEAK OF) will appear and you can click "start conversation".
 
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cjruhand

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The forum does that automatically, go to your "privacy" settings to change it.
Just put your mouse cursor over their name/profile picture for a few seconds and a sort of mini-profile (there's probably a hip cool name for it that I don't know about but YOU KNOW WHAT I SPEAK OF) will appear and you can click "start conversation".
Thanks for the tip.
 
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Erick

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Jan 18, 2024
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I live in Brazil, so to me is not difficult to go to Cusco. My only concern is wasting time and money just to get there and leave empty handed. Or trying to die there, fail, and becoming a vegetable in Cusco
 
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LifeIsCrazyNemb

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I live in Brazil, so to me is not difficult to go to Cusco. My only concern is wasting time and money just to get there and leave empty handed. Or trying to die there, fail, and becoming a vegetable in Cusco
Hey im from brazil too
Went to Lima and Cuzco last year and if you follow the PPH list you can easy get in Cuzco.
Just dont recommend to die there plz.
 
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Erick

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Hey im from brazil too
Went to Lima and Cuzco last year and if you follow the PPH list you can easy get in Cuzco.
Just dont recommend to die there plz.
Você conseguiu pegar N em Cuzco e Lima?
Se eu pegar lá, vou ter que tomar lá, porque não tem como trazer de volta pra ca. Eu seria pego no aeroporto.
 
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LifeIsCrazyNemb

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Jan 21, 2024
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Você conseguiu pegar N em Cuzco e Lima?
Se eu pegar lá, vou ter que tomar lá, porque não tem como trazer de volta pra ca. Eu seria pego no aeroporto.
Cuzco é mais facil, quase todas as lojas vendem sem perguntar.
No aeroporto deu certo, não rolou fiscalização mas é questão de sorte. Acho que a chance de te pegarem é pequena.
Tenta tomar em outro lugar, mesmo que seja cidades vizinhas, senão pode aumentar fiscalização dessas lojas que vendem N.
 
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Cuzco é mais facil, quase todas as lojas vendem sem perguntar.
No aeroporto deu certo, não rolou fiscalização mas é questão de sorte. Acho que a chance de te pegarem é pequena.
Tenta tomar em outro lugar, mesmo que seja cidades vizinhas, senão pode aumentar fiscalização dessas lojas que vendem N.
Em 2022, a Suiça aumentou pra 15 gramas a quantidade de N na eutanasia, menos que isso eles disseram que algumas pessoas ficam em coma por até 10hs antes de morrer. Então o certo seria umas 4 garrafas de N. Vou tentar em Cuzco mesmo.
Queria trazer pro meu apto e beber aqui. Mas faz 7 anos que não pego avião, então não lembro como funciona a fiscalização.
Quanto você gastou mais ou menos pra chegar em Cuzco até pegar a N? To com pouco dinheiro e preciso ter uma noção dos custos pra não acabar numa situação pior que estou, caso algo dê errado 😅
 
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Em 2022, a Suiça aumentou pra 15 gramas a quantidade de N na eutanasia, menos que isso eles disseram que algumas pessoas ficam em coma por até 10hs antes de morrer. Então o certo seria umas 4 garrafas de N. Vou tentar em Cuzco mesmo.
Queria trazer pro meu apto e beber aqui. Mas faz 7 anos que não pego avião, então não lembro como funciona a fiscalização.
Quanto você gastou mais ou menos pra chegar em Cuzco até pegar a N? To com pouco dinheiro e preciso ter uma noção dos custos pra não acabar numa situação pior que estou, caso algo dê errado 😅
Essa info da Suíça nao sabia, vc tem fonte/link dessa info? Estou plenejando tomar 3 garrafas x 50ML conforme o PPH indica.

Fiscalização na alfendefa é randomica. Tem que levar na bagagem despachada (e nao colocar na bagaem de mão). Acho difiicil ser sorteado na alfândega.

Voo SP - Cuzco ida e volta se comprado com boa antedencia consegue por ate r$1800 ida e volta. Da um google e monitora os preços.