Buying N From D

[Hercules]

Buying N From D

Hi everybody. I am a new member to the site. I have been looking at the resource thread for a method. I would like to order N, but I am practically paranoid that the package will be seized at customs and the police will come to my house, arrest me, and send me to jail for along time. I was wondering if anyone from the US has ordered N recently and how did it go for you? What do you think the chances are of it being seized at customs? I worry that a package from Mexico will look suspicious and draw their attention.

Anyway, I was looking at the PPH 2021 and reading the recent N threads, and I have some questions. I would appreciate it if someone who has recently ordered N and received it could please answer. I don't want to get ripped off as N is so expensive.

1. The PPH 2021 lists two sellers A and B. However, the recent N thread lists D as the only leg. seller currently. Who is D? Are B and D the same person? Should I order from D?

2. Are the e-mails for D listed in the March 2021 PPH still accurate? There are 2 e-mails listed for D. which e-mail did you use? The Pronto or Ct one? How long did he take to answer?

3. How did you pay for it? The PPH lists Monroe as payment method. I don't know anything about how Crypto currency works. I am afraid I would get ripped off. Has anyone paid D with WU or MG?

4. Did you use your real name when you ordered? What type of precautions did you take to avoid being caught if customs seizes your package?

5. How long did it take for your package to arrive?

Thanks for listening. Sorry if some of the questions are stupid.

 

[bed]

Powder is concentrated and can be vacuum sealed into a very small pouch. Probably actually has a better chance than two vials.

oh right. wonder what the purity of it is if it's legit.

 

[Apricity]

oh right. wonder what the purity of it is if it's legit.

There's an escrow function on some markets. If the seller tries to scam, they don't get paid.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

But the PPH contains a new N source from a darknet market. It's powdered N once again, but sadly the vendor doesn't have a very strong reputation yet so I'd be careful with orders for now. If that source really turns out to be trustworthy, it would be a huge game changer. Nothing beats powdered N.

Are you talking about 'C' from DNM? I thought they disappeared back in 2020. What edition of the PPH is this? Legit powdered N is the gold standard. You don't have to drink all the bacteriostatic agents and preservatives contained in the liquid injectable version.

Not to mention it can be shipped in a flat letter pack which are rarely checked at customs.

 

[Apricity]

It's on a different market that opened last year.
$625 for 25g of powder.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

It's on a different market that opened last year.
$625 for 25g of powder.

How legit is this? I would be spending the last of my money. I don't want to get screwed over. Man when I look at my life I feel fucking disgusted with myself. In my late 20s and I can barely scrape a few hundred dollars together. Someone like me rightfully deserves to die.

Are you going with the powder or the bottles? Please update us.

 

[Apricity]

I'm waiting on a reply from the vendor about the purity and shipping cost. I'm going to use a credit card to buy the btc, then wash it and convert to monero before sending it to my market wallet. You lose about 10% of your crypto doing it, but oh well. I won't have to pay the credit card bill anyway.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

I'm waiting on a reply from the vendor about the purity and shipping cost. I'm going to use a credit card to buy the btc, then wash it and convert to monero before sending it to my market wallet. You lose about 10% of your crypto doing it, but oh well. I won't have to pay the credit card bill anyway.

I wish I would have known you can use a credit card to purchase BTC. I thought bank transfers were the only way. Man what a waste. I could have used that money to buy some decent groceries for once in my life. I guess in the end it doesn't even matter when I am dead.

 

[Chockles]

I'd love to have had the powder for less volume but wouldn't risk anyone with so little feedback. . But I have my N from my EU supplier with many vouchers. May not be in PPH but was a lot less hassle for me buying EU to EU & lots of help with crypto currency I don't have a clue about. I know it's genuine I've seen the lab results. Besides I'm on ss all the time after this week I won't be anymore, that means it was a success.
Been a few EU orders not getting through customs lately from D. I'm so glad I did my research & bought from EU.
Hope the powder is genuine be a lot less hassle in the future for others.
For me I'll be CTB before the week is out.

 

[Apricity]

I'd love to have had the powder for less volume but wouldn't risk anyone with so little feedback. . But I have my N from my EU supplier with many vouchers. May not be in PPH but was a lot less hassle for me buying EU to EU & lots of help with crypto currency I don't have a clue about. I know it's genuine I've seen the lab results. Besides I'm on ss all the time after this week I won't be anymore, that means it was a success.
Been a few EU orders not getting through customs lately from D. I'm so glad I did my research & bought from EU.
Hope the powder is genuine be a lot less hassle in the future for others.
For me I'll be CTB before the week is out.

The seller listed is from NL. There's another seller with liquid from EU. The bottle is shown as actual Nembutal, but they only have 1 review. The powder seller has 5. Neither seller's reviews are for N though.

 

[BornBrief]

If someone could pm me the dark web info for N I would really appreciate it :)

 

[Chockles]

The seller listed is from NL. There's another seller with liquid from EU. The bottle is shown as actual Nembutal, but they only have 1 review. The powder seller has 5. Neither seller's reviews are for N though.

Like i say I bought from EU before these sellers listed.. Was going to buy off D until i did more research. I'll be CTB by weekend anyway so all you non believers that if it's not in the PPH it's a scam is simply untrue. Just takes a bit of homework.

 

[Chockles]

How legit is this? I would be spending the last of my money. I don't want to get screwed over. Man when I look at my life I feel fucking disgusted with myself. In my late 20s and I can barely scrape a few hundred dollars together. Someone like me rightfully deserves to die.

Are you going with the powder or the bottles? Please update us.

The guy has 4 reviews for the powder & none of them are for N. Might be ok, might not.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

The guy has 4 reviews for the powder & none of them are for N. Might be ok, might not.

Ehhh fuck that. If this is my last and only shot at this I don't want to risk getting scammed. I will try to figure out this monero stuff and contact D.

 

[Apricity]

An EU seller? Can you PM me more about this source?

Can I PM you some questions? Thanks!

Sure

 

[peacefulhorizons]

There are multiple red flags with the supposed new powdered N in the PPH. Keep in mind that the quality and reputation of PPH and exit has gone downhill (Dr. PN really needs to retire lol) especially in the past year so. No word on legitimacy over at the exit forums about the new source so please be careful. Don't spend any money you can't afford to lose. This could be a LE scheme for all we could know.

 

[ChrisLeeHZ]

I was told from November D been removed

why would D be removed?Isn't he the only legit seller now?

 

[Apricity]

why would D be removed?Isn't he the only legit seller now?

That debate got settled i think. He was re-added. Must've been a mistake to remove him.

 

[Zaz]

I'd love to have had the powder for less volume but wouldn't risk anyone with so little feedback. . But I have my N from my EU supplier with many vouchers. May not be in PPH but was a lot less hassle for me buying EU to EU & lots of help with crypto currency I don't have a clue about. I know it's genuine I've seen the lab results. Besides I'm on ss all the time after this week I won't be anymore, that means it was a success.
Been a few EU orders not getting through customs lately from D. I'm so glad I did my research & bought from EU.
Hope the powder is genuine be a lot less hassle in the future for others.
For me I'll be CTB before the week is out.

EU supply with lab certificate is very appealing to me. Could you please PM the details before you go. Wish you'll be delivered from suffering soon. Everyone deserves peace

 

[Chockles]

There is no November edition.
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Nov 1st update. Not edition.

Powder is concentrated and can be vacuum sealed into a very small pouch. Probably actually has a better chance than two vials.

As can any other drug. Most are cut.
4 reviews for vendor on dark web & none for N itself. Sounds like another scam to me. Hope for everyone else in the future it's not. I'll be leaving this planet with my vet N fluid EU to EU by weekend anyway so I don't care anymore.

 

[HopelessFight]

Just to get a few things straight about this:

About A:
- Do NOT order from A anymore. He was removed from the PPH and re-added after being absent for a while. Since then, no one confirmed a received order from him. For that reason, the October 2021 update of the PPH contains a warning for A. Philip Nitschke confirmed on the Exit forums the next (November 2021) update of the PPH will have A removed.
- A is only reachable through Ctemplar, which had a security breach a few months ago. It is very likely an impersonator took over his email address. When he returned, he started using a different writing style, wasn't willing to use express shipping or provide tracking numbers, and other red flags.
- There was an update of the PPH 2 days ago, but this does not seem to be the final November 2021 update yet. In this update, A is still listed as a source, with a warning that he's also known as a scammer. I do not understand why they did not fully remove him yet.

About D:
- Philip Nitschke confirmed on the Exit forums the November 2021 update will contain updated contact details of D. I have no idea what this means since his current contact details still work and people are still receiving their orders.
- 2 days ago, he was briefly removed from the PPH. A few hours later, he was added again. Probably a mistake.

About the new N powder source:
- The new PPH contains a new powder N source on the darknet. This vendor has exactly 0 (ZERO) sales for this powder. I have no idea why this source has been added to the new PPH, but I advice not to order it or even look for it before it is confirmed legit. Also, this source claims to ship from NL, which I doubt can be legit for an N powder source.

About other "EU sources":
- There have been some sellers operating on encrypted messaging apps selling a few bottles of Dolethal. It looks like this was legit, or at least people claimed to have received a positive test result from EC. However, these sellers only had a few bottles in stock and asked ridiculous prices. Probably they bought these bottles from D when he still sold Dolethal because of the limited stock + same fake labels being used. Buying from such vendors is very risky, I would highly advice against it.
- Any other private vendor on these apps may or may not be legit. The risk of getting scammed when buying from them is very high. Be very careful and honestly, it's better to stay away from them anyway.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Powdered N eh? One of the unwritten rules of ordering from the DNM is to never order from NL. As much as I'd want powdered N over liquid, I'd hold off until there's more info

 

[Apricity]

Powdered N eh? One of the unwritten rules of ordering from the DNM is to never order from NL. As much as I'd want powdered N over liquid, I'd hold off until there's more info

Why not order from NL?
Seller quoted purity in the 90s btw. There's an escrow available as well, so they don't get paid if there's a scam

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Why not order from NL?
Seller quoted purity in the 90s btw. There's an escrow available as well, so they don't get paid if there's a scam

I don't know about elsewhere, but in the US, customs heavily scrutinize packages from NL.
But the real question is, who's gonna take one for the team and order from this seller first?

 

[Apricity]

I don't know about elsewhere, but in the US, customs heavily scrutinize packages from NL.
But the real question is, who's gonna take one for the team and order from this seller first?

Crazy they'd be so strict with NL packages and not Mexico

 

[Chockles]

Just to get a few things straight about this:

About A:
- Do NOT order from A anymore. He was removed from the PPH and re-added after being absent for a while. Since then, no one confirmed a received order from him. For that reason, the October 2021 update of the PPH contains a warning for A. Philip Nitschke confirmed on the Exit forums the next (November 2021) update of the PPH will have A removed.
- A is only reachable through Ctemplar, which had a security breach a few months ago. It is very likely an impersonator took over his email address. When he returned, he started using a different writing style, wasn't willing to use express shipping or provide tracking numbers, and other red flags.
- There was an update of the PPH 2 days ago, but this does not seem to be the final November 2021 update yet. In this update, A is still listed as a source, with a warning that he's also known as a scammer. I do not understand why they did not fully remove him yet.

About D:
- Philip Nitschke confirmed on the Exit forums the November 2021 update will contain updated contact details of D. I have no idea what this means since his current contact details still work and people are still receiving their orders.
- 2 days ago, he was briefly removed from the PPH. A few hours later, he was added again. Probably a mistake.

About the new N powder source:
- The new PPH contains a new powder N source on the darknet. This vendor has exactly 0 (ZERO) sales for this powder. I have no idea why this source has been added to the new PPH, but I advice not to order it or even look for it before it is confirmed legit. Also, this source claims to ship from NL, which I doubt can be legit for an N powder source.

About other "EU sources":
- There have been some sellers operating on encrypted messaging apps selling a few bottles of Dolethal. It looks like this was legit, or at least people claimed to have received a positive test result from EC. However, these sellers only had a few bottles in stock and asked ridiculous prices. Probably they bought these bottles from D when he still sold Dolethal because of the limited stock + same fake labels being used. Buying from such vendors is very risky, I would highly advice against it.
- Any other private vendor on these apps may or may not be legit. The risk of getting scammed when buying from them is very high. Be very careful and honestly, it's better to stay away from them anyway.

I didn't get dolethal & whilst price was higher it was not ridiculous for all the extra work put into completing the transaction on my behalf. No scammer would go to that bother. I've seen the lab reports, photos with my ID his ID next to N, not everyone well enough to negotiate crypto & bitcoin themselves & getting N to EU lately from D there have been a few issues with customs.
Yes you need to do your research. But if you do it's no higher risk than the pitfalls of buying from Mexico I had plenty evidence, no one asked for it. Yet people will believe in the powder because it's in the PPH.
It's not better to stay away in my case I'd be suffering for decades in torturous agony with no other viable options.
I'm leaving SS later today anyway. CTB tomorrow. I've been on here every day for past couple months many know my story the community at SS has been 2nd to none. I simply couldn't cope without SS but in an 99.999% confidence I will not be back as I will succeed with my N tomorrow. Goodbye all & I wish you all recovery or peace when your time comes.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Crazy they'd be so strict with NL packages and not Mexico

NL has been a DNM hotspot for years now, that's why

 

[Apricity]

NL has been a DNM hotspot for years now, that's why

Gotcha, thanks for the info

 

[Zaz]

Powdered N eh? One of the unwritten rules of ordering from the DNM is to never order from NL. As much as I'd want powdered N over liquid, I'd hold off until there's more info

A bit of a biased comment, given Mexico has been a cornerstone of the traffic of drugs worldwide. The problem there is so big it represents 15000 deaths by collateral damage every year and the country provides the rest of the planet with exports.

Mexico’s Long War: Drugs, Crime, and the Cartels

Violence continues to rage some two decades after the Mexican government launched a war against drug cartels.

www.cfr.org

Breaking Bad in Europe: mexican “cooks” in service of dutch gangs - Forbidden Stories

Is Europe the new Eldorado for Mexican cartels? In the last 2 years, dozens of meth labs have been dismantled in The Netherlands and Belgium. According to Forbidden Stories’ statistics, 19 Mexican cooks have been arrested, miles away from their homes.

forbiddenstories.org

The fact is both countries have a bad reputation and will be scrutinized by customs. Except, the danger at stake with legal risk and prosecution is more serious during an international trade crossing borders. That's the reason why illegal trading originating from NL has been so prosperous within Europe. Since NL belongs to the regional free trade zones, there are no mandatory customs enforced for merchandise traveling from country to country, outside of random controls.

Free trade areas in Europe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[idencrisis]

There's nothing easier for customs than to stop the same volume same look two medically sealed bottles that N provides.
He would be smart to disguise them in different bottles of commercially available desirable liquids (like rogaine) but then people would complain of safety and expiration and whatnot.

 

[Smart No More]

@Apricity

Hey. Was it you that was in conversation with the new powdered N vendor listed in the PPH? I remwe somebody saging they were awaiting a reply and forget who but had a feeling it was yourself. If correct have you received reply yet?