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So I completed a sleep study, but I took one adivan before doing the study. The receptionist said it was fine but im a bit worried now I won't get the help I need. Stupid me.

Would taking an adivan and having a full sleep remove all apnea episodes? Concerned about this.

Because without that drug it's like someone is stomping on my chest everytime I fall asleep
 
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Even if it was psychological (which i am not saying, even if you didnt have literal pictures of proof i would believe you) you still need treatment?? I agree with not going to the ER, nurses are overworked and the doctors dont give a single fuck. If you can get to a specialist or a Family Doctor, your chances of getting treated goes up tenfold.

If they continue to say it's psychological, make sure they realise that its causing you harm, psychological or not. Your mental wellbeing is necessary and if they refuse to treat it thats fully malpractice. Youve heard all of this I'm sure, but you deserve treatment. you shouldnt have to, but going full karen "i want to speak to your manager" talking to admin is also an option

I hope you have a good day today, sorry for the ramble
 
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Im so sorry this happened to you. Did they move ur upper jaw up? It seems ur tongue isn't resting on the upper palate anymore which can make you feel worse also unfortunately. I had a botched sleep apnea thing done in my throat and haven't slept well for 8 months which made me worse so I can empthaize the part with the not being able to breath or sleep well which is so painful because sleep is the one place we can escape
 
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So I completed a sleep study, but I took one adivan before doing the study. The receptionist said it was fine but im a bit worried now I won't get the help I need. Stupid me.

Would taking an adivan and having a full sleep remove all apnea episodes? Concerned about this.

Because without that drug it's like someone is stomping on my chest everytime I fall asleep
There's the risk that using benzos while sleeping with breathing problems could cause further damages related to deprivation of oxygen. It's worth talking about with the people that are running your sleep study as they may be able to give you better advice with the usage of benzos in your current condition than myself.
 
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Same for me man. I feel like I'm suffocating because of botched surgery of eyes. Well I was a lot into mewing and stuff and this reminds me of this. If the jaw drops down and back it blocks the airway. Ever since Tha surgery, I promised to send atamniy to hell. Well I have my SN. just waiting now.
It's a nightmare and I can understand what you are going through. Same shit happened to me where they told me it's psychological. I'm pretty much done..
 
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Even if it was psychological (which i am not saying, even if you didnt have literal pictures of proof i would believe you) you still need treatment?? I agree with not going to the ER, nurses are overworked and the doctors dont give a single fuck. If you can get to a specialist or a Family Doctor, your chances of getting treated goes up tenfold.

If they continue to say it's psychological, make sure they realise that its causing you harm, psychological or not. Your mental wellbeing is necessary and if they refuse to treat it thats fully malpractice. Youve heard all of this I'm sure, but you deserve treatment. you shouldnt have to, but going full karen "i want to speak to your manager" talking to admin is also an option

I hope you have a good day today, sorry for the ramble
The ENT just rushed through and didn't analyze or consider the effort of my respiration at all, it wasnt even the main doctor it was a resident student of his who looked at me. I have a family doctor who perscribed me benzos, so im thinking he fully thinks its psychological going off of what the emerg doctirs were saying, and am going to see a Jaw surgeon tomorrow.

I hope he will have some sense and see fully what is going on, it's my last hope. The jaw surgeon will have access to my med evaluations from emerg but I hope he can draw his own conclusions.

I've been in pain suffocating every single day for prolonged episodes... I can't do it much longer. This last jaw surgeon is my last hope. I think after this I will attempt to CBT. It'll cost me 800 dollars to consult with him.

I endured clinging to hope, and I did my best to attend church one last time, I have faith in Jesus and God inspite of this. But I feel like I don't have much fight in me when doctors are dismissing physical symptoms of breathlessness and labored breathing as anxiety. It's too much to bear.
There's the risk that using benzos while sleeping with breathing problems could cause further damages related to deprivation of oxygen. It's worth talking about with the people that are running your sleep study as they may be able to give you better advice with the usage of benzos in your current condition than myself.
They didn't give any advice at all, they didn't even seem to care that I used benzos during my sleep study...

At this point I think I'm not going to get any help in Alberta.
Thank you all for your kind words. My appointment with the jaw surgeon is tomorrow. I'll update on what he says. . . I am hoping with all my heart he is a compassionate human that can see that I am in physical pain as a result of the breathing labor.
 
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Best of luck that the jaw surgeon is willing to and able to help you out with your jaw problems.
 
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Same for me man. I feel like I'm suffocating because of botched surgery of eyes. Well I was a lot into mewing and stuff and this reminds me of this. If the jaw drops down and back it blocks the airway. Ever since Tha surgery, I promised to send atamniy to hell. Well I have my SN. just waiting now.
It's a nightmare and I can understand what you are going through. Same shit happened to me where they told me it's psychological. I'm pretty much done..
I'm so sorry, I read about your experience on the botched surgery thread. I hope you know you are not alone. Doctors should be more aware about our sense organs. I've actually also been having eye pain As well with the suffocation, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a correlation, because the trigeminal nerve connects to the eyes as well and it gives sensation to the eyes based on the nasal cavity.
 
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Unfortunately the jaw surgeon wouldn't help, he basically said he can refer me to an ENT for nasal breathing. And he basically just dismissed all my concerns about my jaw being in my airway saying that it's normal that I have more than enough airway. He said physiologically it's fine and I'm recovering more than fine, and that physiologically ill survive/ I'm able to breathe.

He said the nasal obstruction is mostly swelling and he kept ignoring the lateral view where its clearly blocked.

He said he'd refer me to a ENT doctor but as far as surgery goes he won't do anything to bring the jaw down. I don't honestly know how people can so blatantly dismiss what's obvious in front of them even the jaw surgeon himself, even though I'm saying I can't get enough air. I feel dizzy all the time. Breathless, and weak. They keep insisting it's a psychological issue and it's not physiological in the slightest. It seems he's going off of what the emerg doctors wrote in my file.

I don't know what to do, I think this is the end. I'm tired. I can't sleep, I can't eat, I can't breathe or exert my body within reasonable limits, I keep having hypercapnic episodes of feeling intense pain and suffocation, and it's endless torture.

I'll plan my exit soon, best wishes to all of you.
 
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This is brutal, can't you sue?
 
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My god, I can't believe how dismissive they're being. I feel for you. :aw: If you decide to CTB, I hope it'll work out as planned. If you need any advice, I'll try the best I can.
 
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Wha... What the hell? Why did they... destroy your jaw? Who the hell approved that surgery? Although I'm more surprised that all the (Canadian) doctors who have seen those scans appear to be blind, despite the hospital(s) being in a developed country.
It seems like getting the necessary treatment would first require receiving a proper diagnosis from a surgeon at a private clinic, unfortunately.
Well... It's rather obvious that those who are actually competent would be more inclined to work for a private business (and be paid more) rather than the government (and be paid less) in any country, I suppose.
I know right it's so terrible, it's like they are oblivious. I don't know how he could sit there and say this wasn't physiological in nature basically parroting what the emerg doctors said. Sounds like he spent more time reading my medical records than analyzing it himself. I thought he would be different.
My god, I can't believe how dismissive they're being. I feel for you. :aw: If you decide to CTB, I hope it'll work out as planned. If you need any advice, I'll try the best I can.
Thank you so much shadow, I appreciate it so much. I'll be in touch maybe on how to make it more peaceful. I'm scared of getting institutionalized because I will lose all my income if I survive. I have to make sure it's the last.
 
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He is most definitely either playing dumb (as your case would be rather expensive/difficult to fix, with potential complications and/or a prolonged hospital stay) or never even looked at your scans.
The Canadian doctors you've contacted so far seem to actively desire to drop your case rather than misdiagnosing/dismissing you due to incompetence.
I've seen better bullet wound results; whoever did that to your jaw should have his removed. Any actual surgeon would be horrified by those scans, which is also why it shouldn't have taken more than two appointments to confirm that at least something is wrong.
I would definitely recommend visiting a private clinic.
We don't have truly "private" clinics here. They all can see my health records and go off of what the other doctors are saying from all my emerg visits (total of 5) so even though this surgeon was private he asked for my health care number and basically just skimmed my ct and read what the other doctors were saying. In fact alot of what he regurgitated was what the other doctors were saying, that I can breathe through my mouth, that I'm fine, etc etc.

I need referrals from another doctor to even see any of the private doctors here, so they all have access to the same background info. I really truly think I won't get help, unless I went somewhere or contacted someone who had no history of me and could conduct themselves without bias.

I mentioned I was suicidal due to this to my parent and the police were informed and my general physician, so it seems like they're going to just label this as psychological issues and cover it up.
 
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We don't have truly "private" clinics here. They all can see my health records and go off of what the other doctors are saying from all my emerg visits (total of 5) so even though this surgeon was private he asked for my health care number and basically just skimmed my ct and read what the other doctors were saying. In fact alot of what he regurgitated was what the other doctors were saying, that I can breathe through my mouth, that I'm fine, etc etc.

I need referrals from another doctor to even see any of the private doctors here, so they all have access to the same background info. I really truly think I won't get help, unless I went somewhere or contacted someone who had no history of me and could conduct themselves without bias.

I mentioned I was suicidal due to this to my parent and the police were informed and my general physician, so it seems like they're going to just label this as psychological issues and cover it up.
Yeah that shit makes me furious af when they say its psychological. Like I went often to docs, they say nothing is wrong etc. Just psychological. Well sooner or later, I'll be gone and make him rot in hell+family. For eternity. Where I end up. Idk. I gave them a lot of chances to fix it. Unfortunately you cannot undo eye surgery so. Im fucked for life because I trusted them.
 
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Yeah that shit makes me furious af when they say its psychological. Like I went often to docs, they say nothing is wrong etc. Just psychological. Well sooner or later, I'll be gone and make him rot in hell+family. For eternity. Where I end up. Idk. I gave them a lot of chances to fix it. Unfortunately you cannot undo eye surgery so. Im fucked for life because I trusted them.
I totally understand what you are saying. My trust was betrayed as well... I also totally get your desire for revenge, honestly I'm just leaving it in God's hands to punish the guy because I can't do much myself...

I don't know if he will be punished but I hope he will be...

One can only hope...

I looked up your doctor, it's always the doctors with high reviews who you have to be watchful for, because you never know if you'll be their one victim. I don't trust highly rated doctors anymore, to me it sounds like high patient turnover is more important than actually helping people. Or just going from one quick patient to the next instead of focusing on one specific / difficult case. It's really confounding.

Sounds like he did a number on you and got away with it because of that... I'm so sorry.
 
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I totally understand what you are saying. My trust was betrayed as well... I also totally get your desire for revenge, honestly I'm just leaving it in God's hands to punish the guy because I can't do much myself...

I don't know if he will be punished but I hope he will be...

One can only hope...

I looked up your doctor, it's always the doctors with high reviews who you have to be watchful for, because you never know if you'll be their one victim. I don't trust highly rated doctors anymore, to me it sounds like high patient turnover is more important than actually helping people. Or just going from one quick patient to the next instead of focusing on one specific / difficult case. It's really confounding.

Sounds like he did a number on you and got away with it because of that... I'm so sorry.
How did you find my doctor? Did I say his full name? Whatever doesn't matter.. If you found him that's ok. Well I mean even some reviews say they are more for the money than actually doing the job. I'm fucking stupid man, because I forget that Google deletes bad reviews more often than not. I did give him 1 star but it doesn't even show up 🤷🏼‍♀️.
I totally understand what you are saying. My trust was betrayed as well... I also totally get your desire for revenge, honestly I'm just leaving it in God's hands to punish the guy because I can't do much myself...

I don't know if he will be punished but I hope he will be...

One can only hope...

I looked up your doctor, it's always the doctors with high reviews who you have to be watchful for, because you never know if you'll be their one victim. I don't trust highly rated doctors anymore, to me it sounds like high patient turnover is more important than actually helping people. Or just going from one quick patient to the next instead of focusing on one specific / difficult case. It's really confounding.

Sounds like he did a number on you and got away with it because of that... I'm so sorry.
Interesting there's people ctbing solely because of botched surgeries.. If only I was aware.. I'm fucking dumb af
I totally understand what you are saying. My trust was betrayed as well... I also totally get your desire for revenge, honestly I'm just leaving it in God's hands to punish the guy because I can't do much myself...

I don't know if he will be punished but I hope he will be...

One can only hope...

I looked up your doctor, it's always the doctors with high reviews who you have to be watchful for, because you never know if you'll be their one victim. I don't trust highly rated doctors anymore, to me it sounds like high patient turnover is more important than actually helping people. Or just going from one quick patient to the next instead of focusing on one specific / difficult case. It's really confounding.

Sounds like he did a number on you and got away with it because of that... I'm so sorry.
Yeah be careful as you can easily buy reviews and I know some doctors who did it /does it. Happens ig
 
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