Bitter incel vibe

[whatevs]

I think I'm emitting major bitterness signals some days to normies, one of the girls at the workplace just looks creeped out by me. And I'm 'very serious' most of the time, which actually means I am depressed as fuck lol.

This is a difficult issue for those that don't know, you're bitter and alienated so you become unlikeable, and when people reject you the resentment and hatred grows, so you become more bitter. The only solution is to seek and receive good feedback, otherwise it is a dangerous, antisocial feedback loop. Thankfully some people are friendly and give me conversation. I need that in order to feel somewhat normal.

So remember, give the school shooter conversation, his life might turn around just by that. DISCLAIMER: I'm not like that nor I justify their crimes, I just understand some of their feelings.

 

[Painless_end]

Well you have shown yourself to be self-aware if you know all this about yourself

I hope you can make the right choices

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Based.

 

[Superdeterminist]

For sure. One of the biggest reasons I want to ctb is because I'm sick of living bitterly. It's no fun for anyone, including the bitter individual. And I have found escaping it to be impossible so far. I can play nice, but underneath there's a constant bitterness, not for the other person (usually) but for my life in general.

For me, it all stems from comparisons, I think. I compare my life to certain other people's lives, and it really feels like I got the short end of the stick. It's not that I want to drag them down to my level, it's that I want to rise to their level. But you can't raise your history, it's fixed. You can maybe raise your future, but that's just a lottery.

 

[motel rooms]

Based.

 

[Al_stargate]

Try to communicate your feelings about depression, you might score some sympathy points and attention.

 

[whatevs]

Based.

Incelcore is the only core worth our time.

 

[Anxieyote]

Normies also put way too many restrictions on dialogue options. I have an infinite amount of things to say and observations to make, but only a handful are appropriate to use at any given moment.

They force nuerodivergents to keep our thoughts locked away

 

[Cathy Ames]

So remember, give the school shooter conversation, his life might turn around just by that. DISCLAIMER: I'm not like that nor I justify their crimes, I just understand some of their feelings.

FWIW, I don't think this only applies to incels and/or school shooters.

 

[whatevs]

I don't think this only applies to incels and/or school shooters.

Yeah, I know that, I was using a sensationalist concept, that of the murderous 'other'.

 

[freedompass]

I can relate to the 'bitter' part unfortunately. I always would tell myself back when I was still 'human' in my 40's that I would guard against bitterness because it isn't an attractive quality at all and tends to repel others. Socially I'm better than I give myself credit for, I think. But I have most definitely lost the open hearted innocence of youth and replaced it with dead eyed cynicism.

 

[Doombox]

I'm finding it harder to put out a vibe that anybody would want to be around, but that doesn't increase my bitterness because it doesn't surprise me. I know I probably wouldn't want to hang out with somebody like me...why would I expect anybody else to?

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

This is a difficult issue for those that don't know, you're bitter and alienated so you become unlikeable, and when people reject you the resentment and hatred grows, so you become more bitter. The only solution is to seek and receive good feedback, otherwise it is a dangerous, antisocial feedback loop. Thankfully some people are friendly and give me conversation. I need that in order to feel somewhat normal.

I've been on both sides of that. Makes it a little easier to not be an asshole.

 

[whatevs]

I'm finding it harder to put out a vibe that anybody would want to be around, but that doesn't increase my bitterness because it doesn't surprise me. I know I probably wouldn't want to hang out with somebody like me...why would I expect anybody else to?

I mean, to me something not being surprising doesn't negate it worsening your mental state...

 

[Foresight]

Are the guys giving you much trouble?

Can you work from home eventually given your field? It's the life. I don't think about any of this anymore and it used to consume me at work. At the end of the day we're all a bunch of strangers slammed together and it's awkward.

 

[Doombox]

I mean, to me something not being surprising doesn't negate it worsening your mental state...

Yeah, that's true.

 

[Cathy Ames]

Yeah, I know that, I was using a sensationalist concept, that of the murderous 'other'.

Well, when I said I was kinda hinting or hoping the rest of us atypical folk might also be extended a tiny bit of grace.

 

[whatevs]

Are the guys giving you much trouble?

Can you work from home eventually given your field? It's the life. I don't think about any of this anymore and it used to consume me at work. At the end of the day we're all a bunch of strangers slammed together and it's awkward.

I will definitely work some days from home but you're supposed to fit in the company I guess. It's baffling how different I am from average people. It makes me look unfunny and uptight, but it's just that I don't like them I guess. But I would want to like them... I can be funny and energetic too.

 

[Ligottian]

I think I'm emitting major bitterness signals some days to normies, one of the girls at the workplace just looks creeped out by me. And I'm 'very serious' most of the time, which actually means I am depressed as fuck lol.

This is a difficult issue for those that don't know, you're bitter and alienated so you become unlikeable, and when people reject you the resentment and hatred grows, so you become more bitter. The only solution is to seek and receive good feedback, otherwise it is a dangerous, antisocial feedback loop. Thankfully some people are friendly and give me conversation. I need that in order to feel somewhat normal.

So remember, give the school shooter conversation, his life might turn around just by that. DISCLAIMER: I'm not like that nor I justify their crimes, I just understand some of their feelings.

Are you old enough to remember the post office shootings of the late 80's/early 90's in the US? I worked there then, and I can assure you it was not just some "already crazy" psychos who did it. It was the result of an extremely toxic, dysfunctional, and often sadistic management style. I worked 17 years there. My own office got investigated by the PO Inspector General's office for being a potential violence "hot spot". I gave testimony. I certainly had fantasies. I left on full disability.

 

[whatevs]

Are you old enough to remember the post office shootings of the late 80's/early 90's in the US? I worked there then, and I can assure you it was not just some "already crazy" psychos who did it. It was the result of an extremely toxic, dysfunctional, and often sadistic management style. I worked 17 years there. My own office got investigated by the PO Inspector General's office for being a potential violence "hot spot". I gave testimony. I certainly had fantasies. I left on full disability.

I had another form in the 80s. Non-existence, ignorami would assume. Born in 1991, don't remember that at all.

 

[come to dust]

Personally I find broody incel types very attractive and appealing. I'd happily spend time complimenting and appreciating them. The problem is, most of them are recluses, and I am a recluse, so I rarely actually encounter them. Also, they might get annoyed if I do act friendly because I'm gay.

 

[Anxieyote]

Personally I find broody incel types very attractive and appealing. I'd happily spend time complimenting and appreciating them. The problem is, most of them are recluses, and I am a recluse, so I rarely actually encounter them. Also, they might get annoyed if I do act friendly because I'm gay.

I used to be involved in those communities when I was younger and trying to establish my identity. I posted a thread one time essentially saying, "If we're having so many problems with women, why don't we just date men instead?" They got extremely angry, and I was perma-banned the very next day. It was probably for the best though, because I ended up meeting and dating some great people after leaving those forums, and I no longer feel like it's impossible for me to find intimacy.

According to them, it's the insinuation that women would "win" if ugly straight men were forced to seek relationships with other men for sexual pleasure.

I can confirm that people who used to be my friends in those communities would not speak to me anymore after they found out I dated a guy. Most of them just called me the f-slur and blocked me instantly.

 

[Klo]

I think I'm emitting major bitterness signals some days to normies, one of the girls at the workplace just looks creeped out by me. And I'm 'very serious' most of the time, which actually means I am depressed as fuck lol.

This is a difficult issue for those that don't know, you're bitter and alienated so you become unlikeable, and when people reject you the resentment and hatred grows, so you become more bitter. The only solution is to seek and receive good feedback, otherwise it is a dangerous, antisocial feedback loop. Thankfully some people are friendly and give me conversation. I need that in order to feel somewhat normal.

So remember, give the school shooter conversation, his life might turn around just by that. DISCLAIMER: I'm not like that nor I justify their crimes, I just understand some of their feelings.

Sounds like a pretty big denial of personal responsibility. You are admitting that you give off hatred and anger so why would people want to engage with that. You are choosing to give off that energy nobody is forcing it on you. If you make an effort to be a decent person you would probably have a different experience. Also it is not good idea to need anything from anyone because people suck but also don't owe anyone anything. If you were coming from a neutral decent place in your interactions, some people would still disappoint you with their reactions but you should really just let that go and not worry about it. You could find decent people if you try.

 

[NobodyKnowsMe]

I've not been very social at work for a few decades now. I've never been good at small talk and the longer this desolate life goes on, the less I give a crap about the misc bullshit that most other people want to chitchat about. I'm actually really glad that I get to work from home 99% of the time now.

 

[come to dust]

I used to be involved in those communities when I was younger and trying to establish my identity. I posted a thread one time essentially saying, "If we're having so many problems with women, why don't we just date men instead?" They got extremely angry, and I was perma-banned the very next day. It was probably for the best though, because I ended up meeting and dating some great people after leaving those forums, and I no longer feel like it's impossible for me to find intimacy.

According to them, it's the insinuation that women would "win" if ugly straight men were forced to seek relationships with other men for sexual pleasure.

I can confirm that people who used to be my friends in those communities would not speak to me anymore after they found out I dated a guy. Most of them just called me the f-slur and blocked me instantly.

While some incels can be homophobic, I do understand where they're coming from. Looks do matter, it's delusional to claim they don't. And not just for sex, but for social connections, getting a job and good wage etc.

I'm 27 and have been single my whole life as a gay man. The only possible reason for this is how ugly I am, and based on the way guys reject me, it's self evident.

 

[Arvinneedstodie]

I give off these creepy awkward vibes too, and my awareness of it makes it even worse. I'm constantly stressing myself out on how I act and sound when in public. Honestly it's got to be one of life's biggest negative feedback loops, and it's not something that can be easily fixed by self improvement, there's too many factors that are beyond our control.

 

[Sarros]

All my effort in social settings is just put into honing and maintaining the normie camouflage. So much so I forget the actual person that I am in the moment. Every connection is superficial and I dig myself deeper into molding this mask into a full persona.

 

[whatevs]

I used to be involved in those communities when I was younger and trying to establish my identity. I posted a thread one time essentially saying, "If we're having so many problems with women, why don't we just date men instead?" They got extremely angry, and I was perma-banned the very next day. It was probably for the best though, because I ended up meeting and dating some great people after leaving those forums, and I no longer feel like it's impossible for me to find intimacy.

According to them, it's the insinuation that women would "win" if ugly straight men were forced to seek relationships with other men for sexual pleasure.

I can confirm that people who used to be my friends in those communities would not speak to me anymore after they found out I dated a guy. Most of them just called me the f-slur and blocked me instantly.

Incels overlap with part of the far-right. For example, Andrew Anglin 'jokingly' proposes White Sharia and treating women like dogs. He's an escortcel for sure.

So what led you to the forum after you overcame at least the intimacy hurdle?

Sounds like a pretty big denial of personal responsibility. You are admitting that you give off hatred and anger so why would people want to engage with that. You are choosing to give off that energy nobody is forcing it on you. If you make an effort to be a decent person you would probably have a different experience. Also it is not good idea to need anything from anyone because people suck but also don't owe anyone anything. If you were coming from a neutral decent place in your interactions, some people would still disappoint you with their reactions but you should really just let that go and not worry about it. You could find decent people if you try.

The thing with bitterness is that it isn't a decision or voluntary. I'm chronically ill and it automatically throws a shade of annoyance and suffering to my psyche. I will likely never wake up refreshed, but always tired and haggard. I also have anorgasmia and the opposite political views to the majority. Basically my life looks like designed to frustrate me.

The best I can do is to be sad instead of angry. But I much prefer anger as it feels more empowering. Obviously I would prefer a positive emotion instead, but the things I value or care about and what most value or care about are antithetical so there's like a natural enmity. Spending time with normal people will always make both of us feel awkward at best.

 

[Anxieyote]

So what led you to the forum after you overcame at least the intimacy hurdle?

To this forum, or the incel one?

 

[whatevs]

To this forum, or the incel one?

This one.