Benadryl (nytol) (diphenhydramine)

[alltoomuch2]

Ive seen it posted that diphenhydramine (Nytol in the UK) is a bad way to ctb. I read that the lethal dose is 50mg/kg. It seems so easy to get hold of and simpler than hanging or night-night. Is it really that bad and why - unreliable,? Painful? You look horrible afterwards? Do I need more than this (I weigh 70kg). I'm on sertraline if that makes a difference. I also have domperidone as an antiemetic

 

[Jorms_McGander]

Ive seen it posted that diphenhydramine (Nytol in the UK) is a bad way to ctb. I read that the lethal dose is 50mg/kg. It seems so easy to get hold of and simpler than hanging or night-night. Is it really that bad and why - unreliable,? Painful? You look horrible afterwards? Do I need more than this (I weigh 70kg). I'm on sertraline if that makes a difference. I also have domperidone as an antiemetic

Having taken it for the delerient effects at high doses I can say that it's kinda uncertain where the lethal dose is; if you just want to have a horrible terrifying drug trip but not die, you build slowly toward a psychoactive dose and you might cross the LD50 on your way.

So maybe for purposes of CTB it's hard to take enough or hard to know you've got your own lethal dose?

That's not a lot but maybe it helps

 

[alltoomuch2]

Having taken it for the delerient effects at high doses I can say that it's kinda uncertain where the lethal dose is; if you just want to have a horrible terrifying drug trip but not die, you build slowly toward a psychoactive dose and you might cross the LD50 on your way.

So maybe for purposes of CTB it's hard to take enough or hard to know you've got your own lethal dose?

That's not a lot but maybe it helps

Maybe I'll go to the lake with a weighted backpack, try to take double what I'd planned, add alcohol and all the sertraline I have and go into the water at night. Surely all that together would work.

 

[Jorms_McGander]

Maybe I'll go to the lake with a weighted backpack, try to take double what I'd planned, add alcohol and all the sertraline I have and go into the water at night. Surely all that together would work.

I wonder. Seems believable but are you planning to fall asleep in the water or just fail to swim back? If you're comfortable swimming and don't imagine falling asleep (I am afraid) that seems doable. Survival instinct on drowning is a big deal, like your brain stem has a choreographed set of motions to do when your upper brain falls unconscious. But your list of meds doesn't seem super duper lethal on its own. Perhaps more information on diphenhydramine OD is needed

 

[alltoomuch2]

I wonder. Seems believable but are you planning to fall asleep in the water or just fail to swim back? If you're comfortable swimming and don't imagine falling asleep (I am afraid) that seems doable. Survival instinct on drowning is a big deal, like your brain stem has a choreographed set of motions to do when your upper brain falls unconscious. But your list of meds doesn't seem super duper lethal on its own. Perhaps more information on diphenhydramine OD is needed

I was hoping to fall asleep or have a seizure in the water, or at least feel sleepy enough to panic when I first breathed in the water. I didn't know that about the brainstem. Maybe I'll go back to considering full hanging, night night or charcoal (I've got the tent now). The Humber jump seems tempting but I don't want to be paralysed. Most of the time I know my SI would kick in, whatever the method, but I regularly feel like SI is switched off but at those times I don't have everything planned well enough (I can hardly think at that time) and so reach for the paracetamol

 

[Jorms_McGander]

I was hoping to fall asleep or have a seizure in the water, or at least feel sleepy enough to panic when I first breathed in the water. I didn't know that about the brainstem. Maybe I'll go back to considering full hanging, night night or charcoal (I've got the tent now). The Humber jump seems tempting but I don't want to be paralysed. Most of the time I know my SI would kick in, whatever the method, but I regularly feel like SI is switched off but at those times I don't have everything planned well enough (I can hardly think at that time) and so reach for the paracetamol

I am personally leaning toward something like a hanging as well. Very reliable.