Discussion Being conscious/alive doesn't make mathematical sense

[LostZombie]

So with the best scientific understanding of our current universe being alive and consciousness doesn't make sense.

Here is why; if we want to take the probability of the likeliness of something happening in time it must be time of event over total time. So since we did not exist for infinity, and will continue to not exist forever after this life.

infinity + infinity = infinity

and lets say we have 80 years of life that would be

80
---- = 0
infinity

So the chances we are alive are not near zero but just plain, and simply zero
Even if the infinity before we lived was negative infinity + ( -infinity ) = 0
and that would be a dividing by zero.

This also applies if we have set beginning to the universe since

Infinity - 13 billion = infinity


I only have 2 ideas on how this could work

A. Ground hog day, but with a memory wipe
In if the universe is infinite in size everything that can happen will an infinite number of times

B. Quantum immortality
Any quantum action will essentially puts you in the universe you live in



Thoughts?

 

[Hystearical]

Thoughts?

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[Pluto]

 

[8hsjyd]

Probability, I think, is a mistaken way of viewing this and can result in the conflated or confusing results you've expressed. While the existence of space-time and atoms arranging in such a manner so as to be conducive to life and so on is statistically improbable as a statement of fact, that doesn't mean it didn't occur and that consciousness doesn't exist. Experience alone indicates the presence of something, be it consciousness or not, regardless of any aforementioned improbability. Similarly, while I have indeed heard the notion of the universe being 'conscious' a few times, I don't believe that claim is a anywhere near a ubiquitously accepted view within the scientific community. I also think it may be using the word 'conscious' in a manner which is different from how it's used in relation to animals/humans.

Theories of consciousness are rather dubious generally with lots of different competing theories and infighting between them. If you've an interest in the topic I've heard good things of the academic textbook Consciousness: An Introduction 4th Edition by Susan Blackmore and Emily T. TrosciankoI which goes over all primary theories. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Library.) Often, with controversial, confusing, and popular scientific matters such as consciousness and quantum mechanics, I think it's of best effort to consult merely academic, peer-reviewed writings because there are, quite frankly, some loons out there :P. Otherwise, it could be of benefit to simply enjoy life as it is without stressing too hard over the why and how. Often we can lose ourselves in these matters of trying to understand particularities rather than actually enjoying things for what they are.

 

[LostZombie]

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