this thread comes off as extremely invalidating towards many users of the forum, especially the "younger crowd" you attempt to single out.
the decision of ctb is hard. the act of actually going through with it and taking your own life is harder and ANYTHING can happen. a person can back out after a goodbye thread for whatever reasons. a person can have a failed ctb attempt after posting their goodbye thread.
how do you think it is on the person posting the goodbye thread and feeling set on ctb? you talk about how their decision affects other users. you struggle to realize that alot of members on this site actually struggle with the idea of how their suicide will have an effect on those around them and its something that holds many including myself back from actually ctbing.
blatanly assuming how users who may post goodbye threads overlook the effect it has on other members is extremely invalidating. you dont know their intentions, you dont know what their going through and how they feel, you dont know how they feel about suicide and the decision itself, you just dont know another person at all period, and it isnt right to assume or act like you do. we dont.
"especially those of us who actually understand what a serious and permanent decision suicide is".
define "us". who are you to say who actually understands the seriousness of a decision like ctb and who doesnt? you keep assuming that YOU know best about the seriousness of suicide and understand it better than most on the forum. however, you dont. you cant measure how others feel about it and you certainly cant assume that you know better than most.
you try and single out a younger crowd. the decision is complex and the act itself is even harder. you don't know what the other person is going through and you can't assume that you do know. i've seen older people create goodbye threads and return, and i've seen younger people do the same. it isn't about the age. stop fixating on the age. it's about the complexity of the topic and act itself that leaves doors open for possible returns. not everyone goes through with it, ANYTHING can happen, and sometimes its beyond our control.
this sort of criticism and judgement and negative perception on those who both back out and fail their attempts prevents these very people from returning to the forum. we've had issues with people wanting to create new accounts after posting goodbye threads or not returning at all because they fear the judgement they get from people on the forum. this does nothing but have a detrimental effect on members and it prevents healthy discussions on the forum.
singling out a group of members, specifically younger members is invalidating and it will not be tolerated. a younger member has every right to feel and think the way they do and act on a decision just like an older member does.
younger members come to the forum already having to deal with the pro-life toxicity in real-life surrounding their age and shouldn't be forced to then deal with it on a forum that they feel is a safe space for them. what is applicable to younger members is also applicable to you. it goes both ways. i could turn around and tell you that you should take your time in rethinking your decisions because the decision of ctb is tough and, and you aren't anywhere near 100 years old! you have so much to live for and so much life left! it goes both ways.
this thread invites arguments and causes division amongst members. it encourages judgement and criticism towards members that fail their attempts or back out on their plans. honestly, in a sense, this sort of outlook PUSHES people to ctbing and can be regarded as pro-suicide. the invalidation a person feels can serve to PUSH a member over the edge and we have had instances in the past, where these types of posts and threads have resulted in the impulsive ctb of members because they felt invalidated, judged, and misunderstood in an environment that they felt was their safe space.
because of the reasons stated above, this thread will be locked from spiraling into an argument. be mindful about what you say and understand that what you say can have a significant impact on other members of the forum in a negative way.
take care.
