Be prepared for SN to suck

[finalnap]

Yesterday I did kinda a lil half assed attempt and drank a sip of my 20 g sn in 50 ml of water. It immediately burned the back of my throat and I waited to see if I felt anything. I started to feel my heart pumping fast and my head started to throb. I threw up so much bc I didn't take antiemetics. I took a nap and would wake up repeatedly to throw up again. When you do SN, be sure to take the full amount and have another glass prepared. Do it right or you'll just end up sick. I'm totally good now but I'm probably gonna do the full attempt tomorrow night. I'm prepared for the same symptoms so I know what to expect now.

 

[BipolarGuy]

How does sodium nitrite kill you and what does it feel like?

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

Yeah, I'm kinda prepared for it to suck. I know that dying isn't supposed to be easy. At least it will be better and likely more successful than other methods.

How does sodium nitrite kill you and what does it feel like?

You should read Stan's Guide and the PPH for full details, but basically, it kills you through hypoxia — converting oxygen-carrying hemoglobin in your blood to non-oxygen-carrying methemoglobin, thereby depriving your body of the oxygen it needs.

 

[aminend]

That's not needed to test SN. If u follow true its guideline that works. that kills
Vomiting is possible even by meto or other thing. But second SN sip compensates vomiting.

 

[BipolarGuy]

Yeah, I'm kinda prepared for it to suck. I know that dying isn't supposed to be easy. At least it will be better and likely more successful than other methods.

You should read Stan's Guide and the PPH for full details, but basically, it kills you through hypoxia — converting oxygen-carrying hemoglobin in your blood to non-oxygen-carrying methemoglobin, thereby depriving your body of the oxygen it needs.

Yes I've read that, but I mean what does it actually feel like?
How quick is it?

What is 'Stan's guide' and 'PPH'?

 

[Life_and_Death]

I really hate to ask but.... Why test it? It's something that could kill you and if you do end up going without proper preperation (as you've already said) it's not exactly the most peaceful thing. Also other people on the site have already tested it like that and reported the same thing with maybe minor variances.
Please don't take it the wrong way I'm just curious why you personally put yourself through that when you could have read about it here. Although I assume it was something like "everyone's different and some people can't handle the taste (or other aspects)" so you wanted to see how you'd react.

Yes I've read that, but I mean what does it actually feel like?
How quick is it?

What is 'Stan's guide' and 'PPH'?

Stans guide is something you can find here. It's a guide written by a guy named stan. (yeah I didn't think it was actually that legit. I just thought its what they named it lol) the PPH is peaceful pill handbook that I'm fairly confident you have to buy

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

Yes I've read that, but I mean what does it actually feel like?
How quick is it?

What is 'Stan's guide' and 'PPH'?

On the Suicide Discussion Lansing page, select the "Resources Compilation" pinned thread. There are links to both in there. Your eyes will be opened. ^_^

Welcome to SS btw! I hope you find this community as welcoming and supportive as I have.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

Stans guide is something you can find here. It's a guide written by a guy named stan. (yeah I didn't think it was actually that legit. I just thought its what they named it lol) the PPH is peaceful pill handbook that I'm fairly confident you have to buy

Stan's Guide is famous because it's been documented as successful and it's a bit easier to digest than the PPH in terms of readability. You can access electronic versions of the PPH (well, technically the PPeH) on this forum.

 

[lunatic]

Thank you for sharing your experience, I hope you'll find peace soon. Do you plan on using any of the suggested helpers for your full attempt? (Antiemetics, antacid, painkillers, benzos?) The only things that I know will be hard to get for my bus ticket are antiemetics and possibly benzos. Does anyone have any advice for getting an antiemetic prescription in the USA? Sorry if my post comes off as self centered or weird, I'm just trying to get some advice and I figured the answers I get would also benefit anyone else planning to ctb by using SN. I've searched a lot of threads and read the guides, but personal advice would help a lot considering the way the pandemic has changed how doctor visits for prescription meds go recently.
Thank you again OP.

Hey, I'm not from the US, but I got antiemetics (not for this purpose, just because I needed them) prescribed because the antidepressants I was on made me super nauseous as a side effect so if you're on any antidepressants you could tell the doctor they're making you nauseous/vomit. Or if you're on any other type of medication, check the list of side effects and see if any mention it. You could also say you're having bad migraines, or if you're a woman that your period pains are making you throw up. Tell them you've tried all the non-prescription ones that are sold at pharmacies and none of them worked. It shouldn't be hard to get them prescribed, here in Sweden doctors are very strict with prescription but since they have no potential for recreational use/dependency it should be no problem at all if you have a reason that makes sense.

 

[Morphosis]

Stan was an absolute legend, a real gentleman with a classic sense of humour and someone most members here had a lot of time and respect for.
He did more research on Sodium Nitrite than everyone else combined, and was continually answering the same questions over and over. So he put together a "guide" which was considered so thorough and helpful it was added to the resources section. He then ctb using SN and is still missed terribly by those of us who knew him on here.

 

[lunatic]

				Yeah my plan is to describe nausea, bloating, and migraines similar to other posters that I've seen. I have no prior mental illness or suicidal tendencies on my medical record so it should probably be a quick virtual visit followed by a prescription for some kind of antiemetic hopefully.

Yeah I really don't think you'll have any trouble getting them prescribed. If you get a different antiemetic than the one you want at first, just call the doctor again after like a week and say they're not working until they give you the right one. Or you could straight up say you've tried the one you want before and it worked really well. That's what I did and the doctor was just like "ok that's good then" and prescribed it immediately.

 

[ITryHard]

I'm fairly lucky when it comes to antiemetics as I already take Olanzapine as part of my mental health "regiment." The only question I have is how much do I need. I was unable to glean that from Stan's guide. My dosage is 2.5 mg so I hope that is enough.

As far as Benzos go, I take those too, but I've been taking them for so long that my tolerance is through the roof and they really do nothing for me. That is unless I decide to take a massive dose, like 4 mg, but I don't know if that will help or hinder the process.

Any thoughts or advice as to what dosage of Olanzapine I need would be greatly appreciated! :-)

 

[bigdog]

this sucks I can't get benzos to blackout

 

[autumnal]

How does sodium nitrite kill you and what does it feel like?

Read the key resources on it. Please don't expect people to explain the whole thing to you from scratch.

Yesterday I did kinda a lil half assed attempt and drank a sip of my 20 g sn in 50 ml of water. It immediately burned the back of my throat and I waited to see if I felt anything. I started to feel my heart pumping fast and my head started to throb. I threw up so much bc I didn't take antiemetics. I took a nap and would wake up repeatedly to throw up again. When you do SN, be sure to take the full amount and have another glass prepared. Do it right or you'll just end up sick. I'm totally good now but I'm probably gonna do the full attempt tomorrow night. I'm prepared for the same symptoms so I know what to expect now.

Do not do tests or half-assed attempts with SN. It is needlessly unpleasant, and doesn't really indicate much about how a proper attempt would work anyway.

 

[braketimez]

Sipping SN to "test it"? So stupid.

 

[autumnal]

Stan's Guide is famous because it's been documented as successful and it's a bit easier to digest than the PPH in terms of readability. You can access electronic versions of the PPH (well, technically the PPeH) on this forum.

I would strongly recommend reading both the PPH (first) and then followed by Stan's Guide. Do not just depend on Stan's Guide on its own.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

He then ctb using SN and is still missed terribly by those of us who knew him on here.

Is this definitely known, or do people just assume he ctb'd?

 

[autumnal]

Yes I've read that, but I mean what does it actually feel like?
How quick is it?

What is 'Stan's guide' and 'PPH'?

Please read the key SN resources as mentioned. These will give you a comprehensive grounding in the SN method, and will remove the need for you to flood the forum with basic questions.

 

[LostandTired]

On a side note, does anyone have an opinion on using more than 50ml water to ease the burning sensation? I'm going to have at least 5 20g glasses ready even if that's overkill(no pun intended). Any opinions on using strong mouthwash to numb your mouth beforehand and using sweets or mints afterwards to cover the taste?

My understanding is you want to minimize water intake because you don't want the SN to covert to NaCL thus slowing down the process. Thus only 50ml of water just enough to dissolve the SN and that you're on a water fast 2 hours beforehand other than what needed to swallow any other tablets leading up to it.
Also guide(s) says mouthwash before or mint afterwards is fine.

 

[BipolarGuy]

Please read the key SN resources as mentioned. These will give you a comprehensive grounding in the SN method, and will remove the need for you to flood the forum with basic questions.

Ok mate calm yourself.
I'm new in this website and didn't know there are 'resources'.

I'm also not "flooding the forum".
I asked a question.

Good day to you.

 

[autumnal]

Ok mate calm yourself.
I'm new in this website and didn't know there are 'resources'.

I'm also not "flooding the forum".
I asked a question.

Good day to you.

Welcome to the forum. As with any forum, it always helps to review the rules, FAQ and pinned posts before posting.

There were a few questions you had asked about SN, and I was just directing you to the key resources before they continued unnecessarily. No offence was intended.

 

[BipolarGuy]

Welcome to the forum. As with any forum, it always helps to review the rules, FAQ and pinned posts before posting.

There were a few questions you had asked about SN, and I was just directing you to the key resources before they continued unnecessarily. No offence was intended.

Ok no problem thank you for posting resources for me.

 

[BipolarGuy]

Welcome to the forum. As with any forum, it always helps to review the rules, FAQ and pinned posts before posting.

There were a few questions you had asked about SN, and I was just directing you to the key resources before they continued unnecessarily. No offence was intended.

So I'm out on my phone at the moment but I've had a glance at those 'resources'.

Obviously I want it to be successful but I don't want to sit down and read through an entire book.

Where can I get an explanation of the method and where to obtain everything I need?

It's ok telling me how these chemicals work on the cellular level, which is interesting but one also needs practical information.

 

[bigdog]

Kill me

 

[alexit]

Yesterday I did kinda a lil half assed attempt and drank a sip of my 20 g sn in 50 ml of water. It immediately burned the back of my throat and I waited to see if I felt anything. I started to feel my heart pumping fast and my head started to throb. I threw up so much bc I didn't take antiemetics. I took a nap and would wake up repeatedly to throw up again. When you do SN, be sure to take the full amount and have another glass prepared. Do it right or you'll just end up sick. I'm totally good now but I'm probably gonna do the full attempt tomorrow night. I'm prepared for the same symptoms so I know what to expect now.

i have no doubt. it's why i haven't done it

 

[Dima2]

The idea of drinking SN and bearing the pain for a bit of time is much easier for me than jumping off height , I mean a few a hours of pain is better than staying in this joke life

 

[alexit]

The idea of drinking SN and bearing the pain for a bit of time is much easier for me than jumping off height , I mean a few a hours of pain is better than staying in this joke life

it's not only that. you'll likely vomit it

 

[alexit]

I agree with you, but shouldn't you be unconscious within 15-30 minutes from a properly absorbed dose(s) of SN? I know the extras precautions make all the difference, but I'm talking best or semi-best case scenario.
On another sidenote, has anyone else thought of ways to defeat SI when it comes to the SN method? I'm contemplating handcuffing myself to the bed within reach of my backup doses but still out of reach of a phone incase I impulsively try to call for help or run out of the room while I'm still conscious.

no. i mean there's nothing theyre going to be able to do for you.

 

[Chronicillness]

Every person who has been kind enough to document their SN experience here has reported tachycardia with SN. The elevated heart-rate is especially conerning to me. One of my main reasons to CTB is due to my heart health challenges.

The racing heart, nausea, vomiting and light-headedness are 1 to 1 reminiscent of the panic attacks I deal with every week. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of benzos and opiates taken togther as a CTB method. SN just doesn't fit the bill to what I'd consider peaceful. I suppose if you have a strong resolve to die than this might not be a concern to you at all, but I know there are other ultra-sensitive people on this board who are turned off by SN for the same reasons I listed.

I feel like SN leads to a random "lights out" effect, instead of something like nembutal where you are cradled to sleep fairly quickly, but still given the dignity of a peaceful death by simply giving into the overwhelming need to catch some ZZZs. I want to die in my sleep instead of being struck with a final bout of fainting unconsciousness.

I'm probably overthinking this though, maybe even coming up with excuses, because there probably is no truly "peaceful death" because even if an intentional ingestion of a fatal sleep-promoting substance still requires a great amount of valiance and determination to accomplish because your survival instinct will be doubting your choice the entire time.

 

[LostandTired]

no. i mean there's nothing theyre going to be able to do for you

Not sure you're right here. One may lose consciousness in 20 or so minutes but death could take 4+ hours and one could be treated within that time if discovered.