Attention seeking saviors rub me the wrong way

[Funeralprincess]

I saw something recently that just rubbed me the wrong way entirely and had to get it off my chest since my days are numbered.
Before finding this group, I had always dealt with the insanity of pro lifers (I used to be a reproductive health activist and have changed sexist legal policies, and helped people find doctors willing to sterilize them) and so I'd always been familiar with how crazy and delusional they were up close… however, when the time came that I was immensely suicidal and wanted to take my own life, I had zero idea there were pro lifers who tried to act like "heroes" when it comes to suicidal people. I'd thought I'd seen it all until there was a pro life group that formed at my college recently to discuss suicide and being pro life, as we have had quite a few students commit at my college so I guess this gave these idiots their "time to shine"…
I just remember becoming extremely nauseated with their whole presentation of the matter. It all centered around how they wanted to "save" someone from "murdering themselves" and how they wanted to be known for bringing "hope" back into someone's heart… the entire discussion just centered around themselves and how heroic they are and in the same breath, insulting suicidal people by saying they are just "misguided and sinful", and need a "strong stable person" to come into their life and guide them.

I'm thinking to myself as I watch their speech how narcissistic they are. As a suicidal person, I can't say I'd be comfortable having someone "help" me if their "help" was blasted publicly on media platforms and they expected rewards for it… it felt so far from genuine and to make matters worse, the students who did take their life were used in their speech, and they said they would've been able to "save and love them" had they known they weren't doing well and living "a life of sin".

It took everything in my power not to interrupt them (I'm a VERY blunt person) and express my disgust with this. I witnessed a new side to the pro life movement that I was never aware even existed because I'd always dealt with pro lifers on the reproductive side of things when I did do a lot of activism in and out of healthcare, so to see this? This just left such a sour taste in my mouth…. Suicidal people aren't little trophies you get to fling around for saving; I also think to say suicidal people are just living a life of sin is insulting to the people who don't want to live… like there's many reasons someone wants to die and it's not always because they themselves lived a bad life but moreso, what others have done TO them that has made life unbearable, so it's pretty ignorant to generalize all suicidal people, as if we all want to die because WE live such a bad life and WE are all wanting to die because of our sin…. Ive talked to some people on this forum who are very rich, have a happy day to day regimen, etc and they STILL want to die because of components OUTSIDE of the happiness they created that are affecting them enough to leave the happiness they DO have behind.
Sorry, I just had to let that out of my chest because it disgusted me to a point I have never been to before… I have never seen someone virtue signal so hard, make someone's suicide about themselves and their ego SO hard…. It kind of just made me feel more confident about dying this summer because it disgusts me to see humans trying to use someone's suicide to paint themselves as a great person lol.

There's too many selfish people on this planet

 

[FuneralCry]

I personally cannot stand pro lifers, to me suicide could never be wrong, it is a human right, none of us asked for this life in the first place so we have no obligation to live. I think that also shows how selfish people are, pretending to care just to make themselves feel better. I think that many people only care about what directly affects themselves. We live in a world with unlimited potential for suffering and things could get worse for anyone. Something could happen to the pro lifers to make them suicidal and then they would want to exit this world.

 

[wilted_biography]

There is sadly mostly only self-interest. True altruism does not exist. People don't really care. It's about preserving their own self-image and feeling superior to those who aren't on their sick moral high ground lol. "Do-gooders" like to maintain their inflated sense of self—period. It's rarely TRULY about others.

 

[Funeralprincess]

I personally cannot stand pro lifers, to me suicide could never be wrong, it is a human right, none of us asked for this life in the first place so we have no obligation to live. I think that also shows how selfish people are, pretending to care just to make themselves feel better. I think that many people only care about what directly affects themselves. We live in a world with unlimited potential for suffering and things could get worse for anyone. Something could happen to the pro lifers to make them suicidal and then they would want to exit this world.

I agree with you! Pro lifers tend to be hypocritical when it comes to the whole "what if that was you" situation because if they were in our shoes they wouldn't want to even be here either. Pro lifers are problematic all around because their advocacy has turned into a self interest spectacle

There is sadly mostly only self-interest. True altruism does not exist. People don't really care. It's about preserving their own self-image and feeling superior to those who aren't on their sick moral high ground lol. "Do-gooders" like to maintain their inflated sense of self—period. It's rarely TRULY about others.

I agree. I've seen more people who are on the mental illness side of things TRULY care about others more than the "rational" people in our society and I realize that.. that it's so rare to truly be cared about and valued without some sort of conditions…

 

[wilted_biography]

I agree with you! Pro lifers tend to be hypocritical when it comes to the whole "what if that was you" situation because if they were in our shoes they wouldn't want to even be here either. Pro lifers are problematic all around because their advocacy has turned into a self interest spectacle

I agree. I've seen more people who are on the mental illness side of things TRULY care about others more than the "rational" people in our society and I realize that.. that it's so rare to truly be cared about and valued without some sort of conditions…

I was just thinking about how truly sickening it is for these fuck faces to be so instantly praised and universally accepted in society as well…not sure what that tells ya…maybe that the whole damn structure is a little ill :/

 

[Funeralprincess]

I was just thinking about how truly sickening it is for these fuck faces to be so instantly praised and universally accepted in society as well…not sure what that tells ya…maybe that the whole damn structure is a little ill :/

Society likes "normal" people even if those people have abnormal beliefs lol

 

[wilted_biography]

Society likes "normal" people even if those people have abnormal beliefs lol

So maybe being insane in an already sick society really makes us…sane and normal? Lolll YAY

 

[rationaltake]

Why don't these people go and help those who actually want need and are sometimes begging for some help? Homeless people who need housing. Disabled people who need home adaptations. Plenty of possibilities. So why do they pick this particular cause?

 

[Zzzzz]

I agree it is naseuating. I cannot stand arrogance.

 

[blue_muse]

I find pro-lifers contradictory; someone says they're suicidal and explains why, then gets branded an attention seeker. It's a no-win situation.

 

[NotHuman]

And once they complete suicide it becomes "why didn't they just reach out for help???"

 

[Funeralprincess]

Why don't these people go and help those who actually want need and are sometimes begging for some help? Homeless people who need housing. Disabled people who need home adaptations. Plenty of possibilities. So why do they pick this particular cause?

I love this point

 

[outatime_85]

Why don't these people go and help those who actually want need and are sometimes begging for some help? Homeless people who need housing. Disabled people who need home adaptations. Plenty of possibilities. So why do they pick this particular cause?

Most likely because it necessitates little to no real investment on the part of the person acting as a helper.

After all, the only thing they have to do is read some words for a prevention commercial or tweet out something about reaching out.

I think most of the time, people who say they want to help hope the people they say that to don't ask for their help.

I guess maybe some of them just want a feel-good moment.

 

[WannaBdoneSufferng]

I agree with most of the above. They just want recognized for an action that literally requires no real ACTION on their part. Telling people, whose reality is often impossible to live, telling them "there is Hope" (like hope is anything other than debilitating) or "there is a future" (like we want to be there for it) or (and this is my least favorite) "you can be happpy". Like all we are is a little sad. All we need is an attitude adjustment. All we need is to be more grateful.

I am sick of being grateful for my own existence, which I hold almost synonymous with suffering.

 

[Funeralprincess]

I agree with most of the above. They just want recognized for an action that literally requires no real ACTION on their part. Telling people, whose reality is often impossible to live, telling them "there is Hope" (like hope is anything other than debilitating) or "there is a future" (like we want to be there for it) or (and this is my least favorite) "you can be happpy". Like all we are is a little sad. All we need is an attitude adjustment. All we need is to be more grateful.

I am sick of being grateful for my own existence, which I hold almost synonymous with suffering.

I agree with you. What gets me is they will say "things will get better you'll see!" And that doesn't always happen. Most times in most cases, things don't improve. I know a lot of people who are still clinging to that lie and they're miserable, yet they wait day by day for the "magical change" everyone has convinced them will come

So maybe being insane in an already sick society really makes us…sane and normal? Lolll YAY

LMAO YES