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Attempted Suicide Horrors
by Kevin Caruso

The vast majority of people who attempt suicide do not actually die by suicide.
(Let me emphatically remind you that it is never okay to die by suicide or attempt suicide. Never.
So please let me share with you some of the horrors of people who have attempted suicide, and were left in bad shape because of their attempt.

Amber jumped off of a cliff. She lived, but broke her back (and many other bones). And now she is paralyzed from the waist down and confined to a wheelchair. She lives with her mother.

Martin shot himself in the head with a revolver. He survived, but suffered extensive brain damage. He is in a care facility.

Steven tried to hang himself. He survived, but suffered extensive brain damage. His mother and father now care for him.

Donna thought that taking an overdose of pills would be a peaceful and surefire way to end her life. She took the overdose, but she did not die. Her mother found her lying unconscious on the floor. Donna lapsed into a coma. She eventually came out of her coma, but suffered internal organ damage and brain damage. She is in a care facility.

James shot himself in the abdomen. He did not die, but he suffered massive injuries and lost a kidney.

Elizabeth jumped from a bridge. She landed on a rock and broke her back (and many other bones). She survived, but is paralyzed from the neck down and is in a care facility.

Charles cut his wrists. He survived but severed a tendon and damaged several nerves in his left arm. He has never regained full use of his left hand.

Roger thought a shotgun would blow his head clean off so he would die instantly. He placed the back of the gun on the ground and pulled the trigger. He lived. The gun moved as he was pulling the trigger and his brain was not touched, but the tremendous muzzle blast destroyed his face--everything just below his eyes was gone, including his mouth, chin, nose, and cheeks. After innumerable surgeries, Roger still lives with horrible disfigurement.

And, unfortunately, there are many, many more sad stories like these.

Suicide is a very, very, very serious thing. It is never okay to die by suicide. And for many people who attempt suicide, the result is a paralyzed or disfigured body, or permanent brain damage.

Please don't be one of those people.

Please get help.

You really need to understand the consequences of a suicide attempt.

And all of the consequences are horrible.

Instead of reaching for an instrument to harm yourself, reach for your phone.
Call 911 or 1-800-SUICIDE and get the help that you need.
Or click below for a list of suicide hotlines

Suicide Hotlines

Take care.
And remember, people care for you, and people want to help you.
Don't harm yourself. Don't ever, under any circumstances, harm yourself.
You are awesome! And don't forget it.
 
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je.suis.prêt

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"People want to help you."

Do they? Do they really want to help?
 
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Attempted Suicide Horrors
by Kevin Caruso

The vast majority of people who attempt suicide do not actually die by suicide.
(Let me emphatically remind you that it is never okay to die by suicide or attempt suicide. Never.
So please let me share with you some of the horrors of people who have attempted suicide, and were left in bad shape because of their attempt.

Amber jumped off of a cliff. She lived, but broke her back (and many other bones). And now she is paralyzed from the waist down and confined to a wheelchair. She lives with her mother.

Martin shot himself in the head with a revolver. He survived, but suffered extensive brain damage. He is in a care facility.

Steven tried to hang himself. He survived, but suffered extensive brain damage. His mother and father now care for him.

Donna thought that taking an overdose of pills would be a peaceful and surefire way to end her life. She took the overdose, but she did not die. Her mother found her lying unconscious on the floor. Donna lapsed into a coma. She eventually came out of her coma, but suffered internal organ damage and brain damage. She is in a care facility.

James shot himself in the abdomen. He did not die, but he suffered massive injuries and lost a kidney.

Elizabeth jumped from a bridge. She landed on a rock and broke her back (and many other bones). She survived, but is paralyzed from the neck down and is in a care facility.

Charles cut his wrists. He survived but severed a tendon and damaged several nerves in his left arm. He has never regained full use of his left hand.

Roger thought a shotgun would blow his head clean off so he would die instantly. He placed the back of the gun on the ground and pulled the trigger. He lived. The gun moved as he was pulling the trigger and his brain was not touched, but the tremendous muzzle blast destroyed his face--everything just below his eyes was gone, including his mouth, chin, nose, and cheeks. After innumerable surgeries, Roger still lives with horrible disfigurement.

And, unfortunately, there are many, many more sad stories like these.

Suicide is a very, very, very serious thing. It is never okay to die by suicide. And for many people who attempt suicide, the result is a paralyzed or disfigured body, or permanent brain damage.

Please don't be one of those people.

Please get help.

You really need to understand the consequences of a suicide attempt.

And all of the consequences are horrible.

Instead of reaching for an instrument to harm yourself, reach for your phone.
Call 911 or 1-800-SUICIDE and get the help that you need.
Or click below for a list of suicide hotlines

Suicide Hotlines

Take care.
And remember, people care for you, and people want to help you.
Don't harm yourself. Don't ever, under any circumstances, harm yourself.
You are awesome! And don't forget it.
Sounds like some pro-life fear mongering... Please stop shoving hotlines in our faces.
 
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The only help welcome is to provide peaceful ways to ctb.
 
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Sounds like some pro-life fear mongering... Please stop shoving hotlines in our faces.
Not at all, at least not my intention anyway. I thought it was more of a warning than anything else.

I wanted to post the entire blog, so I did not delete anything that would [probably] upset some people, like providing their list of hotlines. But you can ignore it just like you can ignore pretty much anything someone says to you in real life.
 
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WorthlessTrash

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Im curious what your goal is by posting this.
 
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Shadow Life

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"People want to help you."

Do they? Do they really want to help?
The truth is only you can really help yourself. Learning from the mistakes of others is one way of doing that.
Im curious what your goal is by posting this.
I considered it a warning in choosing methods that we might think of as being peaceful, quick or fool-proof, but may actually not be.. It's good to learn lessons from those before us. Thanks for asking me that question. I am not a pro-lifer! I believe everyone has a right to choose for themselves.
 
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brokensea

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I don't think this post should be here.
 
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Malcolm Yarfa

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Just saying that most of us on this forum are already aware of the risks so we look for peaceful ways that would not create too big damages in case of failure.
 
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gomenasai

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Let me emphatically remind you that it is never okay to die by suicide or attempt suicide. Never.
So in your first post you said this. And then:
Don't harm yourself. Don't ever, under any circumstances, harm yourself.
You are awesome! And don't forget it.

And then this:
The truth is only you can really help yourself. Learning from the mistakes of others is one way of doing that.

I considered it a warning in choosing methods that we might think of as being peaceful, quick or fool-proof, but may actually not be.. It's good to learn lessons from those before us. Thanks for asking me that question. I am not a pro-lifer! I believe everyone has a right to choose for themselves.
And now suddenly you "believe everyone has a right to choose for themselves" and you say you're not a pro-lifer. Well you said two opposing things so make up your mind.
 
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Shadow Life

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Just saying that most of us on this forum are already aware of the risks so we look for peaceful ways that would not create too big damages in case of failure.
That's fair.
So in your first post you said this. And then:


And then this:

And now suddenly you "believe everyone has a right to choose for themselves" and you say you're not a pro-lifer. Well you said two opposing things so make up your mind.
I did not say those things in the original post - I posted the entire blog, without any of my own comments.
The only words I said were my replies to the comments (and the title.)
 
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SamTam33

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Oct 9, 2022
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People see what they want to see and nothing more.

Practically every other post on this forum is about someone being conflicted about suicide. Afraid of the afterlife. Fretting over their method not being peaceful. Worrying about a loved one they'd leave behind.

Do you not see those messages?

Do you think you're presenting arguments that haven't already been pondered ad nauseam?
 
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People see what they want to see and nothing more.

Practically every other post on this forum is about someone being conflicted about suicide. Afraid of the afterlife. Fretting over their method not being peaceful. Worrying about a loved one they'd leave behind.

Do you not see those messages?

Do you think you're presenting arguments that haven't already been pondered ad nauseam?
No, I don't.
 
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gomenasai

Student
Sep 30, 2022
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I did not say those things in the original post - The only words I said were my replies to the comments (and the title.)
I see. Well, it's good to be aware of the risks that every method has so that we can minimize the chances of failing by choosing the best possible method for ourselves.

This is what this site is for. It describes methods and their pros and cons and provides us with the information that can help us achieve the best outcome. Nobody is encouraging anyone to die here, at least not to my knowledge.
 
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Why? Do you think this site is solely for the purpose of encouraging people to die - like the journalists, governments, and pro-lifers say is the reason?
This is called a strawman argument. You've pulled this "purpose" out of your ass just so you can have something to argue against.

Personally, I'vd seen no posts encouraging people to die.

Edit: I think people who use this excuse should be tasked with providing evidence. E.g., how did you conclude that the site encourages people to die?
 
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"People want to help you."

Do they? Do they really want to help?
Nah. I don't feel like they do. When it really comes down to it, they're usually sanctimonious, smug Samaritans. Or, it's literally their job and you're just a number.
 
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This is called a strawman argument. You've pulled this "purpose" out of your ass just so you can have something to argue against.

Personally, I'vd seen no posts encouraging people to die.
Well, I have read posts like that, but that doesn't bother me. Like I said, people are free to do as they choose - including me. And, it's not me who is describing this site with having that 'purpose' - the media and others are saying that about this site.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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Is the person who wrote the blog post actually being serious. They must be seriously deluded and also privileged to say complete nonsense like that. People who want to force others to suffer are seriously disturbing. There is simply nothing wrong with suicide in any way and that is the truth.

But yes, it's incredibly horrific the thought of a suicide attempt failing, it's tragic how we are restricted access to peaceful and reliable methods, that is what we deserve the option of after being forced to endure this life that we never asked for and then no one would have to worry about methods potentially failing. We really shouldn't have to struggle so much in finding ways to leave. But I guess all that anyone can do, is do their own research into methods to reduce the chance of potential failure as after all so many have succeeded with ctb.
 
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Well, I have read posts like that, but that doesn't bother me. Like I said, people are free to do as they choose - including me.
You're right. You're free to lie and I'm free to call you out on it.
 
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This is called a strawman argument. You've pulled this "purpose" out of your ass just so you can have something to argue against.

Personally, I'vd seen no posts encouraging people to die.

Edit: I think people who use this excuse should be tasked with providing evidence. E.g., how did you conclude that the site encourages people to die?
Tacitly
I believe you're full of crap.
and you are welcome to that thought.
 
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brokensea

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Aug 4, 2022
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Why? Do you think this site is solely for the purpose of encouraging people to die - like the journalists, governments, and pro-lifers say is the reason?
First of all this post is shaming. Saying it is never ok to attempt suicide. This is a pro choice forum in where we don't make judgements and tell people what's ok or not ok for them. Please read the index if you're confused. The entire post is pro life fear mongering and guilt complete with the condescending post of the suicide hotline numbers which will lock you up and kidnap you against your will should you say the wrong thing when you call them. The very reason people find this site is not to be judged in the way the entirety of the post presents itself. It's full of pro life guilt and shaming. It's not helpful at all. Every method can have horrifying consequences and I think anyone with a brain already knows that. This should be posted on an anti suicide forum where it's ok to scare people and shame them to force them to be alive without providing any useful support. No one should die by suicide is saying you should be forced to be alive no matter what. This is the pro life nonsense we go to escape from so no I don't believe it should be posted here.
 
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This article shows exactly why it is important for this forum to exist. Any serious attempt will have consequences if you fail. It is better for people to educate themselves on how reliable a method is and what the consequences could be if you fail. No one wants to end up disabled or with organ damage and end up in a worse situation than they are now.
 
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First of all this post is shaming. Saying it is never ok to attempt suicide. This is a pro choice forum in where we don't make judgements and tell people what's ok or not ok for them. Please read the index if you're confused. The entire post is pro life fear mongering and guilt complete with the condescending post of the suicide hotline numbers which will lock you up and kidnap you against your will should you say the wrong thing when you call them. The very reason people find this site is not to be judged in the way the entirety of the post presents itself. It's full of pro life guilt and shaming. It's not helpful at all. Every method can have horrifying consequences and I think anyone with a brain already knows that. This should be posted on an anti suicide forum where it's ok to scare people and shame them to force them to be alive without providing any useful support. No one should die by suicide is saying you should be forced to be alive no matter what. This is the pro life nonsense we go to escape from so no I don't believe it should be posted here.
As I said before, I posted it as a warning against some methods. That's all. I won't engage in an argument that calls into question my motives for posting it. If the moderators want to delete the post that is fine with me - I won't take it personally.
 
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As I said before, I posted it as a warning against some methods. That's all. I won't engage in an argument that calls into question my motives for posting it. If the moderators want to delete the post that is fine with me - I won't take it personally.
That is not all the post said it said directly attempting or dying by suicide is never ok then gave anecdotal stories of random horrible outcomes then posts the suicide numbers at the bottom. I'm not sure how you could put together a more pro life post than that to post here.

There was no statistics looked up on which methods are more likely than others to fail and which ones are safer to use. It was just a blog of shaming, scaring people and judging them.
 
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Your publicity is as if a "banner" will jump... from any (help) line... State...... Yes, man, you can publish what you want here..... It's me indifferent.... But I think you preach in a bad place....... "You don't understand anything"....... Happy day friend
 
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