At what point should you contact suicide prevention?

[blackmoldonwall]

Let's say im going to attempt due to impulsive urge (which i prefer not to since i want to complete my preparation before actually ending it all), take all my pills at once and stand right on the place ive been planning to jump from. However because im not fully prepared yet i dont know if i will actually commit or not.

In this scene, do i contact a hospital (which my psychologist told me to in our safety plan) for prevention or not? I mean it just feels so weird to contact them when i (think) my sanity is still fully intact. Like what if i wont actually commit? It'd be very embarrassing to call a hospital mh center if i wont actually do it.

 

[youremy]

By embarassing do you mean the interaction with the hotline/hospital or the consequences if your family or acquaintances find out? If it's the first - the only embarassment you might have is towards yourself. These guys have experience with this. You're not the first nor the last person they're going to try and help out (1. I'm assuming you encounter a decent human being on the line, 2. I know that "help out" could be debated here).

If you're going to be having second thoughts, any moment before you've actually jumped works. Unless your plan involves a ledge that's hard to come back from and those pills are supposed to knock you out.

The goal of a prevention hotline is to prevent suicide and SH. If it's a hospital, it's to provide healthcare. Both entail you not dying or hurting yourself.

Since you mentioned a hospital, depending on your country and medical history you might find yourself in a ward if the hospital sends someone out to collect you.

 

[nightmare-receiver]

Hello, I'm new here so please forgive me if this is weird in any way. It sounds like you're uncertain and impulsive right now, and just thinking about reaching out makes it seem like (to me, anyway) that reaching out for help rather than following through might be best for you? At least right now. I'm not going to try and influence your decision, but I guess I'm trying to say don't rush it. You don't have to be teetering on the edge to reach out, and if you do decide to reach out, I'm sure people will be happy to help. I went through something similar a few months ago, and decided the hospital was the best idea for me at the time. It really did help me, even though I wasn't 100% sure what I wanted to do in any direction. It was a little embarrassing, but the embarrassment mostly went away once I got there and realized everyone else was kind of going through similar things. They tweaked my medication, and I was doing much better for a while. I don't want you to see my presence on here and think that, because of that, trying is pointless. I've been through some crazy circumstances since, and am kind of in a similar place to you right now. I don't really know what to do either. So I'm sorry if this wasn't helpful, but I hope at the very least it lets you know that you're not alone. And if you're asking for personal opinions, my vote is to hold off on the jump for now, at least until you're more clearheaded, even if it's just to make sure everything is in order before you go.

 

[halfstay]

Even just the thought of suicide is worth checking in on. It's hard to imagine (for me atleast) but a good chunk of the human population never even considers hurting themselves. You've made preparations and have a plan, therefore you'd be more than warranted to reach out for help.

And to clarify I'm not saying that there's any certain "point" you have to reach before seeking help, just that I feel like people tend to put off getting help because they downplay their own struggles by comparing them to others. But those services are there for a reason and you always deserve help, no matter who you are. I hope you do reach out, and perhaps even feel better in the future.

 

[blackmoldonwall]

By embarassing do you mean the interaction with the hotline/hospital or the consequences if your family or acquaintances find out? If it's the first - the only embarassment you might have is towards yourself. These guys have experience with this. You're not the first nor the last person they're going to try and help out (1. I'm assuming you encounter a decent human being on the line, 2. I know that "help out" could be debated here).

If you're going to be having second thoughts, any moment before you've actually jumped works. Unless your plan involves a ledge that's hard to come back from and those pills are supposed to knock you out.

The goal of a prevention hotline is to prevent suicide and SH. If it's a hospital, it's to provide healthcare. Both entail you not dying or hurting yourself.

Since you mentioned a hospital, depending on your country and medical history you might find yourself in a ward if the hospital sends someone out to collect you.

I added a clarification, its more so embarrassment of making them prevent something that i might not actually do? Idk how to explain it, it feels like making them do such serious job for something that might not happen.

Your answer do help a lot, i have problem with thinking everything i do or think has no significant impact, so i dont know when is calling them actually needed.

Hello, I'm new here so please forgive me if this is weird in any way. It sounds like you're uncertain and impulsive right now, and just thinking about reaching out makes it seem like (to me, anyway) that reaching out for help rather than following through might be best for you? At least right now. I'm not going to try and influence your decision, but I guess I'm trying to say don't rush it. You don't have to be teetering on the edge to reach out, and if you do decide to reach out, I'm sure people will be happy to help. I went through something similar a few months ago, and decided the hospital was the best idea for me at the time. It really did help me, even though I wasn't 100% sure what I wanted to do in any direction. It was a little embarrassing, but the embarrassment mostly went away once I got there and realized everyone else was kind of going through similar things. They tweaked my medication, and I was doing much better for a while. I don't want you to see my presence on here and think that, because of that, trying is pointless. I've been through some crazy circumstances since, and am kind of in a similar place to you right now. I don't really know what to do either. So I'm sorry if this wasn't helpful, but I hope at the very least it lets you know that you're not alone. And if you're asking for personal opinions, my vote is to hold off on the jump for now, at least until you're more clearheaded, even if it's just to make sure everything is in order before you go.

Thank you for sharing your view, may i ask what did you attempt to do and at what point did you decide its better to get help? Or did you have the thought of it and went to the hospital, rather than getting them to you? If its okay to ask.

Even just the thought of suicide is worth checking in on. It's hard to imagine (for me atleast) but a good chunk of the human population never even considers hurting themselves. You've made preparations and have a plan, therefore you'd be more than warranted to reach out for help.

And to clarify I'm not saying that there's any certain "point" you have to reach before seeking help, just that I feel like people tend to put off getting help because they downplay their own struggles by comparing them to others. But those services are there for a reason and you always deserve help, no matter who you are. I hope you do reach out, and perhaps even feel better in the future.

Thank you! And yeah haha, i myself cant imagine how there are people who have never considered to do so.

 

[gardenoflonely]

I added a clarification, its more so embarrassment of making them prevent something that i might not actually do? Idk how to explain it, it feels like making them do such serious job for something that might not happen.

Your answer do help a lot, i have problem with thinking everything i do or think has no significant impact, so i dont know when is calling them actually needed.

Even if something does not happen these thoughts did happen and they are serious. It is their job to help in a variety of ways, I'm sure many people have been in your situation and it is not as embarrassing as you're thinking. You are not in lesser need or making them do anything extra job-wise or anything.

 

[nightmare-receiver]

I added a clarification, its more so embarrassment of making them prevent something that i might not actually do? Idk how to explain it, it feels like making them do such serious job for something that might not happen.

Your answer do help a lot, i have problem with thinking everything i do or think has no significant impact, so i dont know when is calling them actually needed.

Thank you for sharing your view, may i ask what did you attempt to do and at what point did you decide its better to get help? Or did you have the thought of it and went to the hospital, rather than getting them to you? If its okay to ask.

Thank you! And yeah haha, i myself cant imagine how there are people who have never considered to do so.

No worries! I'll try and answer any questions you might have. I'm from America, so my hospital experience was there. I took a bunch of pills at 14, but it wasn't really a wholehearted attempt, more of a "if it's meant to happen, it'll happen." I try not to think that way now, because I know it's my decision and I'm the only one who can make it. But my parents found them then, and it was involuntary. Compared to my more recent experience, I had been extensively planning for months in college when I was 21. I don't know why, but I wasn't 100% set on it. But I had a horrible day and experience and decided I'd try it impulsively. Right before I tried I changed my mind just a little bit. I felt like there was just a little bit of hope still, and I didn't have to rush into it. Idk if that's the SI or whatever, but I'm glad I did. I don't remember much from the first time, but I know it was easier when I made the call to go in myself. I reached out to the professional I had made a safety plan with, and I got a ride to the Emergency Room. I packed some clothes and books because I remembered how I wanted them the first time. I had a friend there to sit with me for a little while, but she had to go home after a bit. Being alone wasn't that bad, just boring because they took all my stuff away. They give it back once you're placed in an actual unit, but I had to wait for a little less than a day to be placed in an actual unit. The waiting wasn't that bad, I mostly took naps and sometimes they have a tv or something. They have nurses I think, for a while, and then whatever people that actually assess you came in and I was just honest with them. They said they thought inpatient was a good step, and I agreed, so we discussed what the best placement would be for me based on location and what each hospital offered. I had to ride in an ambulance to transfer, but the people driving it were really nice and it was interesting at least. When I got there I got a bed and stuff, and soon they gave me my clothes and books back. They had a schedule, but I wasn't forced to take part in anything and slept a lot the first day or so. Eventually I joined everybody else, and there was a wide variety of people but in a smaller group. They had "phone time" to call people, and I would call my mom sometimes, so you won't be totally isolated from the outside world. A lot of places also have some kind of outside time, which I liked a lot. Eventually I saw a therapist there for me specifically, did group therapy, and got my meds done. I can give you more details if you want them, but I don't want to ramble too hard. But overall, it was a good experience for me, and I was glad that I went. The least important part, but something I appreciated, was just the "break" from the "real world" where I had help to try my best to feel less awful. Sorry for the zillion word response, but I hope it was helpful and I don't mind answering any other questions you might have, no matter how personal.

 

[blackmoldonwall]

No worries! I'll try and answer any questions you might have. I'm from America, so my hospital experience was there. I took a bunch of pills at 14, but it wasn't really a wholehearted attempt, more of a "if it's meant to happen, it'll happen." I try not to think that way now, because I know it's my decision and I'm the only one who can make it. But my parents found them then, and it was involuntary. Compared to my more recent experience, I had been extensively planning for months in college when I was 21. I don't know why, but I wasn't 100% set on it. But I had a horrible day and experience and decided I'd try it impulsively. Right before I tried I changed my mind just a little bit. I felt like there was just a little bit of hope still, and I didn't have to rush into it. Idk if that's the SI or whatever, but I'm glad I did. I don't remember much from the first time, but I know it was easier when I made the call to go in myself. I reached out to the professional I had made a safety plan with, and I got a ride to the Emergency Room. I packed some clothes and books because I remembered how I wanted them the first time. I had a friend there to sit with me for a little while, but she had to go home after a bit. Being alone wasn't that bad, just boring because they took all my stuff away. They give it back once you're placed in an actual unit, but I had to wait for a little less than a day to be placed in an actual unit. The waiting wasn't that bad, I mostly took naps and sometimes they have a tv or something. They have nurses I think, for a while, and then whatever people that actually assess you came in and I was just honest with them. They said they thought inpatient was a good step, and I agreed, so we discussed what the best placement would be for me based on location and what each hospital offered. I had to ride in an ambulance to transfer, but the people driving it were really nice and it was interesting at least. When I got there I got a bed and stuff, and soon they gave me my clothes and books back. They had a schedule, but I wasn't forced to take part in anything and slept a lot the first day or so. Eventually I joined everybody else, and there was a wide variety of people but in a smaller group. They had "phone time" to call people, and I would call my mom sometimes, so you won't be totally isolated from the outside world. A lot of places also have some kind of outside time, which I liked a lot. Eventually I saw a therapist there for me specifically, did group therapy, and got my meds done. I can give you more details if you want them, but I don't want to ramble too hard. But overall, it was a good experience for me, and I was glad that I went. The least important part, but something I appreciated, was just the "break" from the "real world" where I had help to try my best to feel less awful. Sorry for the zillion word response, but I hope it was helpful and I don't mind answering any other questions you might have, no matter how personal.

Thankyou!! It helps clearing out so many questions i had in mind, i have been questioning how the scenario would be if i actually called for help. Thanks again for sharing this!!

 

[nightmare-receiver]

Thankyou!! It helps clearing out so many questions i had in mind, i have been questioning how the scenario would be if i actually called for help. Thanks again for sharing this!!

No problem at all! I'm really proud of you, even though we don't necessarily know each other, and I'm rooting for you! I mean it wholeheartedly. If you feel like it, you can keep us updated!