Asking for N of D in summer with slightly high temperature bad idea?

[living Dead]

Hello, I am very interested in acquiring N of D. I have been reading here in the forum and I have seen on the one hand that N is very stable and that it is difficult for it to degrade, but on the other hand I have seen that storage below 25 ° C and excursions of up to 30 °C And in the place that I am (apart from the trip since I am in Europe) There are average maximum temperatures of about 30 or 31 °C and it can even exceed those 31 °C on some days. On the other hand, I don't think it will take long to use it (if there are no problems, 1 month and a very bad one, months or at most 1 year, but I doubt it... most likely it will be in a month) Do you think it is a bad idea to ask for N with the risk that it entails under these conditions? Has any of you requested it for these dates and in high temperatures and it has not degraded?
Thanks in advance

 

[Zegers]

I had wondered the same thing but i think if you stock it properly there is no problem.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I'd say temperature certainly could have an effect on it. Any medication really. Read this:

Does Temperature Affect Mail Order Medicines?

 

[Hercules]

According to Derek Humphry, founder of Final Exit, they should be fine. Someone asked him a similar question:


May 9, 2020 at 11:31 am

Hey ergo, i have 2 bottles N that expired August 2019. I've been storing them in a linen closet this entire time. Howevwr i live in a warm country where it can get as hot as 35C sometimes.
do you reckon it's still usable? The bottles are original and sealed.
thank you.


— I believe those substances would still be strong enough to be lethal in the correct dosage.

Here is a link if you want to read about other questions he answered about N.

Danger of underdose with Mexican vet. Nembutal | Assisted-Dying Blog

There has been a lot of talk recently of getting from Mexico bottles of veterinary Nembutal for self-deliverance. Some reports claim one bottle is enough. True, one bottle of veterinary Nembutal (6 gms) will end the life of a frail, elderly person already close to death, but a physically strong...

assisted-dying.org

According to the PPH, it is also ok to store the N in the refrigerator. It will provide a more stable temperature long term.

 

[living Dead]

First of all, thanks for the input. But they are theoretical situations and one contradicts the other and in the case of the person who asked about the state of N in temperatures of 35°C there is no real proof behind it, they are just words that it should not be in disrepair. There is no practical case of someone who has ordered it in summer under these temperatures and to Europe (since it can arrive in the USA in a matter of days) who has done a test and it was not in poor condition? It's a lot of money and I probably won't get two chances and I'm worried that after all the outlay it will arrive in bad shape.

 

[wljourney]

First of all, thanks for the input. But they are theoretical situations and one contradicts the other and in the case of the person who asked about the state of N in temperatures of 35°C there is no real proof behind it, they are just words that it should not be in disrepair. There is no practical case of someone who has ordered it in summer under these temperatures and to Europe (since it can arrive in the USA in a matter of days) who has done a test and it was not in poor condition? It's a lot of money and I probably won't get two chances and I'm worried that after all the outlay it will arrive in bad shape.

Ask yourself this:
What amount of proof would you consider reliable and "enough" to put your mind at ease?

I understand your concern, I had the same question. IMO it's part of the anxiety of buying N.

Now think of where D ships from. A very (!) hot country all year round.

You can assume that ALL items that he ships (any time of year) are at least for some time exposed to 30-40 C outdoor temperatures. Even hotter in a delivery van.

But nobody has reported a reduced efficacy. On the contrary: people have confirmed efficacy with professional tests and simply by successfully CTBing.

You won't get sufficient "hard data" on this. Ever. But you can assume from people who have successfully used N from D that outdoor temps are not the biggest problem when ordering.