Arts Glorify Suicide

[Euthanza]

There's this one thing I like in life, out of hypocrisy and fake positivity, people tend to glorify Hemingways', van Goghs' and Cobains' of the world as superstars — martyrs who chose to die for their art —. The world's most famous love story even goes so far as to romanticize suicide, as both Romeo and Juliet kill themselves at the thought of having to live without one another.

So, if we make our suicide an art (idk, later need to figure out how) then society will also accept suicide before suicide? I mean this question to apply for those ones who seem in ambiguity stance of suicide; while people who thinks suicide as paradox and only seen in negative, will only says negative.

"People says I can become anything I want when I grow older, so I become the suicide"

Praise "rational" suicide!

 

[jodes2]

I wish it were true but people are programmed to respond in an anti-choice manner

 

[Euthanza]

I wish it were true but people are programmed to respond in an anti-choice manner

Yes, I sense that sentiment when confronting the idea of suicide in daily life, but probably deep down inside they also lowkey wonder about suicide, at least put a considerable amount of thought about suicide but then somehow conclude for the opposite.

 

[Rounded Agony]

Do people think that about those iconic figures? I'm pretty sure the popular opinion is that they were just tortured souls...

 

[Euthanza]

Do people think that about those iconic figures? I'm pretty sure the popular opinion is that they were just tortured souls...

Well, I guess its were the artists, not the audience. That opinion is correct though only the reaction is different toward suicide by ordinary people vs suicide by idols, I found some people show ambiguity; Do you mean people love the artists but hate the suicide?

 

[obafgkm]

I wish it were true but people are programmed to respond in an anti-choice manner

I think it is more like a materialistic darwinism worldview putting words in other's mouths, like selfish genes, survival of the fittest, as if everyone wants to live and propagate their seeds.

 

[jodes2]

I think it is more like a materialistic darwinism worldview putting words in other's mouths, like selfish genes, survival of the fittest, as if everyone wants to live and propagate their seeds.

How shallow to be around just to propagate seed. Like the kids would have a great life

 

[tired868686]

There's this one thing I like in life, out of hypocrisy and fake positivity, people tend to glorify Hemingways', van Goghs' and Cobains' of the world as superstars — martyrs who chose to die for their art —. The world's most famous love story even goes so far as to romanticize suicide, as both Romeo and Juliet kill themselves at the thought of having to live without one another.

So, if we make our suicide an art (idk, later need to figure out how) then society will also accept suicide before suicide? I mean this question to apply for those ones who seem in ambiguity stance of suicide; while people who thinks suicide as paradox and only seen in negative, will only says negative.

"People says I can become anything I want when I grow older, so I become the suicide"

Praise "rational" suicide!

That's not necessarily true about dying for their art. That gets said in some sort of nostalgic hindsight.
When Kurt Cobain committed suicide, a few years later they put a big picture of him up in England and people defamed it with phrases like "BooHoo life is tough"
A lot of people used to think people who killed themselves were losers. It's just become more fashionable to be sensitive to these subject matters now days. How many people actually care, I doubt much has changed. If anyone can turn it into a marketing thing like "tortured artist" it makes everyone else feel better about it.
I doubt the people who shot themselves really cared about being referred to as a martyr.

 

[obafgkm]

How shallow to be around just to propagate seed. Like the kids would have a great life

Survival based ideology is very low level, keeping people alive just to suffer. It's hindrance to human rights.

 

[tired868686]

Survival based ideology is very low level, keeping people alive just to suffer. It's hindrance to human rights.

You're registered insurance. Unless your death is profitable, it's not allowed.
Humanities great isn't it.

 

[hamvil]

There's this one thing I like in life, out of hypocrisy and fake positivity, people tend to glorify Hemingways', van Goghs' and Cobains' of the world as superstars — martyrs who chose to die for their art —. The world's most famous love story even goes so far as to romanticize suicide, as both Romeo and Juliet kill themselves at the thought of having to live without one another.

So, if we make our suicide an art (idk, later need to figure out how) then society will also accept suicide before suicide? I mean this question to apply for those ones who seem in ambiguity stance of suicide; while people who thinks suicide as paradox and only seen in negative, will only says negative.

"People says I can become anything I want when I grow older, so I become the suicide"

Praise "rational" suicide!

We have romeo and juliet commit suicide so we do not have to do it ourselves. We have jesus taking on all the bad in the world so we do not have to bear that burden.

 

[Euthanza]

That's not necessarily true about dying for their art. That gets said in some sort of nostalgic hindsight.
When Kurt Cobain committed suicide, a few years later they put a big picture of him up in England and people defamed it with phrases like "BooHoo life is tough"
A lot of people used to think people who killed themselves were losers. It's just become more fashionable to be sensitive to these subject matters now days. How many people actually care, I doubt much has changed. If anyone can turn it into a marketing thing like "tortured artist" it makes everyone else feel better about it.
I doubt the people who shot themselves really cared about being referred to as a martyr.

I have no idea people defamed Cobain that way before. Agree with that selling point; Yeah, martyrdom is religious teaching that if you died in a war as form of self sacrifice then you get rewarded in heaven; this particular belief is shifting over modern time, except for fanatics, there are some still holding tight the delusion, quite common the same person who despise suicide, but not really universal phenomenon because there's also many people who are non religious but oppose suicide, likewise religous people who support 'assisted' suicide.

We have romeo and juliet commit suicide so we do not have to do it ourselves. We have jesus taking on all the bad in the world so we do not have to bear that burden.

The first one is kinda twisted. Still too many bad things, god's work hasn't been done, yet.

 

[Muach]

We have jesus taking on all the bad in the world so we do not have to bear that burden

I sincerely have faith Jesus bearing our burden includes any conviction for our suicide.

and for a suicider it's the afterlife that matters not the opinions of pathetic human beings on earth.