Argon gas?

[brokennsad]

I read if released in an enclosed space at high concentration like 80scf in small bathroom, you can asphyxiate rapidly with no panic, unconscious for a length of time and it's done. No bags overhead just argon in enclosed space. Easy to get argon online, they deliver to uour doorstep. Documented that workers have been found dead from argon. Thoughts anyone?

 

[HNR_]

I mean, the suicide bag thread as well as the PPH mention both N² and Argon so yeah, that'd work

 

[brokennsad]

I tried the charcoal burning in bathroom, but it didn't work. Made my coordination off big time but no passing out. I used alot of coal. Smoke was intense. Had a major cough for days after. Whole house smelled like smoke for weeks
That's when I stumbled onto argon. Everyone wants to talk about other gases that make you violently ill beforehand.

 

[meowpuppy]

is there any reason you're not doing exit bag with argon, OP?

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

I mean, the suicide bag thread as well as the PPH mention both N² and Argon so yeah, that'd work

That's with an exit bag. Neither of them make any mention of releasing it in an enclosed space. So why would assume it would work when those resources mention nothing about using that way?

OP, the amount needed for the space you're using is unknown. Only proceed with this science experiment on yourself if you don't mind the possibility of all the things that could happen (like long term or permanent damage) if it incapacitates you but stops short of killing you. Or of just wasting all the argon.

I've read posts here in the past about people who have tried this science experiment and failed. Thankfully they were ok enough to be able to come back here and write about it.

is there any reason you're not doing exit bag with argon, OP?

Argon is not good with exit bags.
The bag won't inflate as it does with other inert gases. The bigger question is why they're not interested in using pure helium or nitrogen the way they are meant to be used: with an exit bag, mask, or hood.

 

[brokennsad]

is there any reason you're not doing exit bag with argon, OP?

Doesn't seem like u need it. It's a dense gas that lays low to the floor. Exposure in confined space is all thats needed. It misplaced o2 in the entire room

That's with an exit bag. Neither of them make any mention of releasing it in an enclosed space. So why would assume it would work when those resources mention nothing about using that way?

OP, the amount needed for the space you're using is unknown. Only proceed with this science experiment on yourself if you don't mind the possibility of all the things that could happen (like long term or permanent damage) if it incapacitates you but stops short of killing you.

I've read posts here in the past about people who have tried this science experiment and failed. Thankfully they were ok enough to be able to come back here and write about it.



Argon is not good with exit bags.
The bag won't inflate as it does with other inert gases. The bigger question is why they're not interested in using pure helium or nitrogen the way they are meant to be used: with an exit bag, mask, or hood.

Can't obtain pure helium or nitrogen like u can with argon. Comes directly to your door with regulator and tubing that can just be laying on floor in bathtoom. U sit and pass out/unconscious no panic and uncomfortableness of a bag over head and ties, rope, tape etc etc to mess with

 

[brokennsad]

Why is it so hard to figure out how to die? God i dont want to wake up anymore. My mom die in front of me n im so jealous she got to die. Why couldn't that have been me. I have no reason to keep going.

 

[yotaka]

Upfront disclosure: I am NOT an expert. These are just some thoughts.

It seems like it should work as long as it displaces the oxygen. If it's heavier than air, I wonder if laying in a bathtub would help (so the argon stays contained)...

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Are you in a country where the other gases are unobtainable?

You would need a lot of argon. Probably substantially more than however much you think.

Sorry about your mother, sorry for your loss.

 

[brokennsad]

Yes I think u r right. I researched laying on floor of shower stall that is enclosed and small. It said this would trap argon and push all oxygen upwards. The low lying gas would make a person pass out n being exposed overnight, would be fatal. It's very appealing. Can have argon del in 3-4 biz days, just trying to time it right. If fail n im found, pysch ward scares me.

Are you in a country where the other gases are unobtainable?

You would need a lot of argon. Probably substantially more than however much you think.

Sorry about your mother, sorry for your loss.

Thnks. Yes 100% helium isn't sold to individuals neither r other gases. I have no car n can't drive anymore so I can't even go to gas distributor and obtain anything. However found argon gas is used in welding so its sold to hobbists, no questions asked. Online research says get oxygen in room below like 16% and be exposed for long period of time...fatally. Just like everyone else, scared it will fail n Being found alive with tank and having to explain what the hell im doing. Pysch ward 4 sure.

 

[HNR_]

That's with an exit bag. Neither of them make any mention of releasing it in an enclosed space. So why would assume it would work when those resources mention nothing about using that way?

I've read about it either on here or in the PPH at some point when I wanted to go with that method (some newer versions removed some parts and added others, some go more directly to the point, might be because of that), why would I claim that if I didn't?...

Anyways, yeah, like you said later on, it seems a bit too unreliable when there isn't really a lot of documentation...
Making the bag itself isn't hard, I managed to find what I needed (apart from N², stupid ass country...) without much effort and the instructions are really straightforward

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

I've read about it either on here or in the PPH at some point when I wanted to go with that method (some newer versions removed some parts and added others, some go more directly to the point, might be because of that), why would I claim that if I didn't?...

Anyways, yeah, like you said later on, it seems a bit too unreliable when there isn't really a lot of documentation...
Making the bag itself isn't hard, I managed to find what I needed (apart from N², stupid ass country...) without much effort and the instructions are really straightforward

Hmmm, sorry. Sorry to hear. What method have you moved on to?

 

[brokennsad]

988 chat person said, there's no method thats easy. I said yes charcoal burning. Little did I know after trying it, it didn't work. I burned more charcoal than the documented case online showing the guy dead in the hotel bathroom with just a little dish of like 10 burquettes. Why is this so hard to get done? My life is a waste I want done already!!!!!

 

[HNR_]

Hmmm, sorry. Sorry to hear. What method have you moved on to?

I looked into SN for a while then DSL got shut down and I don't trust MIC, on top of customs not messing about here, I also don't want the cops knocking on my door to tell my grandma and father about it

That narrows down my options to jumping which, I'm aware, isn't as peaceful and SI is going to tough to combat but I think I'll manage...

 

[brokennsad]

While everyone is out having fun on a Saturday night, or sleeping soundly or watching a good movie, im constantly battling ptsd when I fall asleep. Waking up in a sweat after dreaming of my love's death and our beautiful maltese's death.
I DON'T WANT TO WAKE UP ANYMORE.
I have no car to drive off a cliff n no gun to shoot the f out of my head.
I miss mary ann so fuckin much, I can't take it anymore. Im trapped like an animal.
There's NO sure proof method gdamit.
I tried the co route...it didn't work, its harder than u think to get co at lethal level.
I wish i could commit a crime n have police shoot me dead!
Why doesn't fuckin walmart sell guns n amo. Why do I have to be so healthy. I've lived enough now let me fuckin die already!!!!

 

[brokennsad]

Ok everyone, I have tomorrow to order argon if im gonna use it by Friday, friday night noone checks on me or sat coming up. It take 3-4 biz days to get. Like everyone, im so scared to fail. Thoughts? Why the fuck couldn't carbon monoxide work? I have everything, thr charcoal, the chimney starter etc etc. Why couldn't the co get to fatal kevel? I was sealed in 4x6x8 bathroom. Wtf??? Thoughts anyone?
Can someone go online n look up "if a worker was laying on floor in a enclosed unventilated sealed 4x3x8 bathroom and 80scf of argon is released slowly and worker was exposed for over 24hours would it be fatal to the worker?" Tell me what u think of the answer

 

[Fadenself00_]

Doesn't seem like u need it. It's a dense gas that lays low to the floor. Exposure in confined space is all thats needed. It misplaced o2 in the entire room

Can't obtain pure helium or nitrogen like u can with argon. Comes directly to your door with regulator and tubing that can just be laying on floor in bathtoom. U sit and pass out/unconscious no panic and uncomfortableness of a bag over head and ties, rope, tape etc etc to mess with

Nope, that won't be reliable. Every gas eventually mixes with the other gases/atmosphere.

 

[brokennsad]

Nope, that won't be reliable. Every gas eventually mixes with the other gases/atmosphere.

But argon lays on floor and pushes 02 upwards. If space is undisturbed, what other gases would mix? Thoughts?

 

[Fadenself00_]

But argon lays on floor and pushes 02 upwards. If space is undisturbed, what other gases would mix? Thoughts?

even then it should eventually mix. It's called diffusion. Also there is gonna always be air circulation on top of that, because you have hotter and cooler surfaces.

I would also say that one should probably stick to helium or at most nitrogen with the exit bag method, as it's actually lighter than air.

 

[brokennsad]

Nitrogen is impossible 4 me to get n helium too. Helium for residential use is not 100% pure. Description of nitrogen death is documented as violent n cruel. Helium if not done right can rupture your lungs.

Argon in a confined space acts as a simple asphyxiant. Because it is colorless, odorless, and about 1.4 times denser than air, it can quickly settle in low-lying areas and displace breathable oxygen without warning, causing rapid suffocation. [1, 2, 3] this is from gas suppliers website.
Plus utube, describes workers who were overcome in pit n died, one trying to help the other one, both died. A woman welder says its dangerous as well to weld using it in enclosed space n that people have perished.
Chemists quoted saying opening up canister in confined space will cause suffocation without physical warning or panic
Thoughts any or every one?

 

[brokennsad]

even then it should eventually mix. It's called diffusion. Also there is gonna always be air circulation on top of that, because you have hotter and cooler surfaces.

I would also say that one should probably stick to helium or at most nitrogen with the exit bag method, as it's actually lighter than air.

Nitrogen is impossible 4 me to get n helium too. Helium for residential use is not 100% pure. Description of nitrogen death is documented as violent n cruel. Helium if not done right can rupture your lungs.

Argon in a confined space acts as a simple asphyxiant. Because it is colorless, odorless, and about 1.4 times denser than air, it can quickly settle in low-lying areas and displace breathable oxygen without warning, causing rapid suffocation. [1, 2, 3] this is from gas suppliers website.
Plus utube, describes workers who were overcome in pit n died, one trying to help the other one, both died. A woman welder says its dangerous as well to weld using it in enclosed space n that people have perished.
Chemists quoted saying opening up canister in confined space will cause suffocation without physical warning or panic
Thoughts any or every one?

 

[Fadenself00_]

Description of nitrogen death is documented as violent n cruel. Helium if not done right can rupture your lungs.

I think the example for it being cruel was during an execution, and we can assume that the inmate didn't want to die and took very shallow breaths, etc.
The rupturing your lungs part is not caused by the gas itself, but due to a poorly implemented method

 

[brokennsad]

I think the example for it being cruel was during an execution, and we can assume that the inmate didn't want to die and took very shallow breaths, etc.
The rupturing your lungs part is not caused by the gas itself, but due to a poorly implemented method

Maybe but its documented for many executions. As for ruptured lungs, big chance to take. I guess mute point 4me bc u cant get either one of those gases. That's what makes argon so appealing. Easy to get n easy enough to let it pool on floor of shower stall or bathroom floor. Lay there with a pillow, overnight. Let it do its thing. Why would anyone want to struggle with a bag n tape or cord etc, just to pull it off. It's hot its uncomfortable n everyone on here has only passed out 4 a little while. ?