Anyone planning to CTB because of the state of the world?

[ShepherdOfMyself]

Like the title indicates, the largest reason I'm planning to CTB is because, looking at the state of the world and where we seem to be heading, I can't see anything positive. It's not just that we've been having a few rough years- it's part of long-term trends that I'm seeing, ones that make me convinced collapse is the only way this ends. It's the deepening divides in our own nations that make us see our fellow citizens as complete enemies. The leaders who seem more interested in screaming at each other than trying to fix things. The media that exacerbates all of this. The skyrocketing inequalities, the ecological devastation getting worse by the day, and the inability for us to even agree that a given problem IS a problem, much less what the best solution for it is.
I know the world has always been ugly, but it feels to me like we're losing the basic stability I once took for granted. I can't bear to keep waiting around. I have to get out, while things are as good as they'll ever be- and while I can still end it peacefully.
Has anyone else felt this way?

 

[anxiousguineapig]

I'm not completely on board with the idea of total collapse but it's definitely a reason I want to have something prepped just in case. I've more concerned about the potential for nuclear war with everything happening in Ukraine though, and that's the reason I've been reading up on methods.

 

[Oblivion Access]

I mean... not explicitly, I wanted to die for ages back when relatively few people were aware of how fucked we all are. Seeing things decline just as I suspected does motivate me more to get it over with as soon as I'm able though. Sure helps shake off the cobwebs of "oh maybe things will magically get better".

 

[ShepherdOfMyself]

I'm not completely on board with the idea of total collapse but it's definitely a reason I want to have something prepped just in case. I've more concerned about the potential for nuclear war with everything happening in Ukraine though, and that's the reason I've been reading up on methods.

I remember joking a few years ago, 'There's a real chance of societal collapse in the next few years, and I just hope I get to play Starfield before then'. Then I saw Ukraine, and I don't think I'll get to play Starfield.

 

[lofticries]

No, but I have to say the world getting shittier gives me another reason not to have kids. The world is gonna be chaos a couple decades from now. Wonder if humanity will even be around in the year 3000.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

No, but it just gives me 1 more reason to hop on the bus.

 

[FuneralCry]

I never really watch the news so I am not really aware of what is going on in the world, but I do see the world as being such a horrible, cruel and unfair place. Just the amount of suffering that exists is enough to make me want to leave. I believe that life should have not been a thing in the first place, existence is completely unnecessary.

 

[Darkover]

i can see humanity draining the planet of resources and end up stuck on it if we don't find away to travel into deep space within the next 100 years, this human endeavor could all be for nothing in the end, there might not even be away to travel deep into space we could just end up finding it to be impossible, (just like anti gravity is impossible no flying cars) so much for humanity and there being a future for any of us, this world going to shit anyway for various reasons.

 

[outrider567]

No

 

[CannotAnymore]

Like the title indicates, the largest reason I'm planning to CTB is because, looking at the state of the world and where we seem to be heading, I can't see anything positive. It's not just that we've been having a few rough years- it's part of long-term trends that I'm seeing, ones that make me convinced collapse is the only way this ends. It's the deepening divides in our own nations that make us see our fellow citizens as complete enemies. The leaders who seem more interested in screaming at each other than trying to fix things. The media that exacerbates all of this. The skyrocketing inequalities, the ecological devastation getting worse by the day, and the inability for us to even agree that a given problem IS a problem, much less what the best solution for it is.
I know the world has always been ugly, but it feels to me like we're losing the basic stability I once took for granted. I can't bear to keep waiting around. I have to get out, while things are as good as they'll ever be- and while I can still end it peacefully.
Has anyone else felt this way?

It's a part of the reason. Not quite the same but just the total lack of empathy and basic common sense in the world. I moved to the US in 2018 and WOW.... WOW..... It's like what happened to people.

 

[Ravel]

its one of my reasons. i just can't adapt to society

 

[Mental_Pain]

I think some of us are hugely affected by the volume of negative news that we are subjected to.

I think you might call this end stage capitalism or, perhaps just human nature..

Not sure that helps but I know what you mean!

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Not the reason for me, either, but getting out of this shit hole, becasue it is a shit hole, makes it easier. It's not a reason for me, but more like a helpful nudge.

 

[MrShino]

It's a part of it for me; although not the main part. I sometimes wonder if we can justify life and existence when so many people suffer. Even if there's alot of good things in life and people who are happy and content, the sheer immensity of people who are not makes me think we would collectively be better off not living. One has to, in a certain degree, close of the empathic emotions towards others to go on, while at the same time have the incentive to help where one can.

 

[whatevs]

At the moment of deepest darkness is where light will shine the brightest.

 

[MementoMori81]

Hopefully things change for you

 

[LongtimeLoser]

I fucked up my life all on my own. The state of the world is better than it has ever been before… on the whole. My Dad used to tell me that "today is the good ole days"… he was so correct… today IS the good ole days.

I'm not going to blame my problems on the people that made good/better choices, maybe had an advantage or two more than me in life, maybe made HUGE sacrifices whereas I didn't, etc.

I made my own decisions, and I ended out getting SO many of them wrong. Yes, I had it ROUGH, especially my childhood, but no more than most really.

 

[YourNeighbor]

You may just be seeing the world through a very biased lens. Consider that bad news is much more likely to get attention in the media because that's just how people are.

 

[Foresight]

Are people getting more hostile? I'm not sure if I'm imagining. I feel average people are more riled up and at wits' end.

I think we're collapsing too in the States.

 

[Al Cappella]

On the whole, the world isn't nearly as bad as it's historically been, but that's not a sexy belief. So no, I wouldn't be leaving because of what's going on in the world. Now my world, that might very well not be sustainable, which means very different things…

 

[Foresight]

On the whole, the world isn't nearly as bad as it's historically been, but that's not a sexy belief. So no, I wouldn't be leaving because of what's going on in the world. Now my world, that might very well not be sustainable, which means very different things…

We're safer than 1500 but are we more stable than the 1970s, 80s, 90s? ebbs and flows I suppose. I don't know the data.

I believe in climate change though, so the human progression element is irrelevant there.

 

[Achlys]

The state of the world has an insignificant impact on my desire leave. I never stay up to date with the news, so the world could be set aflame and I wouldn't notice.

 

[Al Cappella]

I believe in climate change though, so the human progression element is irrelevant there.

Sadly, I think you're right. I see no will large enough in the world to change the likelihood that we're going to succumb to climate change. Worse yet, with the internet has come a willful ignorance, populist trend so too many people don't even "believe" in science. So ya, it's ugly…

 

[LongtimeLoser]

We're safer than 1500 but are we more stable than the 1970s, 80s, 90s? ebbs and flows I suppose. I don't know the data.

I believe in climate change though, so the human progression element is irrelevant there.

As I mentioned above, these are the good ole days. We have no idea how bad things were for our parents… let alone our grandparents!

Most people have it so easy today. Yes, some of us have had it bad for one reason or another… such as congenital disabilities, sexual abuse, etc… I'm not trying to minimize anything. I just talking about on the whole now vs anytime in the past.

 

[Foresight]

As I mentioned above, these are the good ole days. We have no idea how bad things were for our parents… let alone our grandparents!

Most people have it so easy today. Yes, some of us have had it bad for one reason or another… such as congenital disabilities, sexual abuse, etc… I'm not trying to minimize anything. I just talking about on the whole now vs anytime in the past.

But this seems like something that can be measured and confirmed? Cost of living, college education costs, rent price to income, the housing market, crime rates, employment related statistics, retirement and ability to grow savings? Hasn't recent human health fallen and lifespans are going down in the US? I'm pretty sure life was generally more balanced in periods during the 1900s and we've been declining in recent history. This is all US trends though. I don't know the truth. I'm making assumptions other than college costs and lifespans.

We don't even go outside anymore. Suicide rates are going up aren't they? Birth rates are falling? Someone with enough interest can check all the data.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

It certainly doesn't help for me, but honestly if more people who are just as evil as me were to CTB themselves then maybe the world could actually start being a better place for everyone else.

 

[LongtimeLoser]

My life was awesome until my health turned to shit. Before that the sky was the limit. Granted, working two jobs while going to college wasn't fun… but that's how I was able to pay for my living expenses (I was a good student so scholarships paid for all of my tuition). After college, I worked my ass off and SAVED a fortune. Everyone around me spent all they earned though… on bad choices like drugs, cars, electronics, etc while I SAVED for my family/future. Around 10 years ago I was diagnosed with a congenital health problem. Now my mental health is crap.

This is an awesome time to be alive… it's my health that got ME down… not the state of the world. My children will inherit a small fortune from me. That's something at least.

 

[ShepherdOfMyself]

Sadly, I think you're right. I see no will large enough in the world to change the likelihood that we're going to succumb to climate change. Worse yet, with the internet has come a willful ignorance, populist trend so too many people don't even "believe" in science. So ya, it's ugly…

I completely agree. It's horrifying, frankly- I've literally lost sleep and had panic attacks over this shit, but I can hardly mention it because it seems like half the people I know deny it and the other half treat it like some vague concern that will never affect us. I mean, the latest IPCC report was unequivocally 'code red', and it got ZERO attention.

 

[T90-Alpha]

i wholeheartedly believe that there will be some sort of nuclear exchange by 30 years that will annihilate earth. the moment one nuke starts flying; all of them will.
Humans have been in conflict with each other, since the inception of humanity, its only a matter of time till things go downhill. luckily for me, i don't plan on living to see the collapse

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

i wholeheartedly believe that there will be some sort of nuclear exchange by 30 years that will annihilate earth. the moment one nuke starts flying; all of them will.
Humans have been in conflict with each other, since the inception of humanity, its only a matter of time till things go downhill. luckily for me, i don't plan on living to see the collapse
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The cattle (my term for the American public) wouldn't listen to Ron Paul and similar individuals . Less wasteful consumption, more sustainable investments , no wars for SUVs. The cattle are now being punished.

The Americans need to be punished for what they've done on earth. The Americans should be dragged on to the capital beltway and an occupying nation should run over their skulls with pickup trucks.

The Chinese and many other nations deserve this too