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DrWh033

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I wonder how many of you here are people suffering a purely physical incurable progressive disease? I don't mean mental disorder or depression as a result of the disease itself.
Just a physical thing that either through pain or disability has reduced the quality of your life. Thus wanting to ctb
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
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I have ptsd which is considered mental (it's not, really, the physical symptoms are horrific) as well as autism, which one again, I don't think is really mental because it's a developmental disability, yet some would place it in that category.

However, I also suffer from chronic pain, chronic fatigue syndrome, and IBS which really just makes life a hellish slog. There's not really any treatments because none of this is well understood, and I've tried everything currently approved for neuropathic pain.

The things that other people enjoy about life are simply out of my grasp. The career I wanted isn't going to happen now because I'm too disabled. I wanted to adopt children in the future, that won't happen now due to my illnesses. I can't really have many hobbies or interests because the neurological symptoms of brainfog are extreme.

I have no energy to do anything. I always feel weakness, malaise, and pain. Even simple tasks like eating are painstakingly difficult when I know many foods are goinf to put me in horrible pain later on.

I wake up feeling ill, tired, and unrefreshed every single day. It is hard to get out of bed because I'll always feel dizzy and nauseous for at least an hour. So I feel your pain if you are dealing with similar physical illnesses, I would not wish this on a soul.
 
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stygal

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I'm not that depressed to ctb without my physical disability/illnesses.
So you could say I'm only here because I know there is no hope for me to ever get better and to live a life without having to give up all my dignity at some point. Sadly the thing is that it isn't lethal just progressive.
 
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DrWh033

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Sorry to read that. Unfortunately chronic fatigue and even IBS are poorly understood and certainly have both a physical and mental substrate. If I am not mistaken Kurt Cobain killed himself due to IBS.
Anyone else with more clearcut physical disease?
I'm not that depressed to ctb without my physical disability/illnesses.
So you could say I'm only here because I know there is no hope for me to ever get better and to live a life without having to give up all my dignity at some point. That thing is that it isn't lethal just progressive.
What kind of physical illness you suffer from ?
 
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Does type 2 diabetes count? I mean I know it can probably be prevented further if I were to start eating right and getting active but...junk food tastes too good and exercising is too hard......
 
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DrWh033

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Dec 23, 2020
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Does type 2 diabetes count? I mean I know it can probably be prevented further if I were to start eating right and getting active but...junk food tastes too good and exercising is too hard......
I would not say diabetes 2 is a reason to ctb..... Especially considering that if you live healthy you ll prevent most of its complications
 
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I would not say diabetes 2 is a reason to ctb..... Especially considering that if you live healthy you ll prevent most of its complications
It's not my main reason to CTB though it certainly doesn't help. See above for why me living healthy isn't gonna happen anyway. I I do go on living for another ten years maybe I can CTB with diabetes-related complications instead as painful as that'd be.
 
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I wonder how many of you here are people suffering a purely physical incurable progressive disease? I don't mean mental disorder or depression as a result of the disease itself.
Just a physical thing that either through pain or disability has reduced the quality of your life. Thus wanting to ctb
I have Tardive Dyskinesia and I never want to leave my house because of it. Constantly having to worry about unexpectedly making stupid faces at people without being able to control yourself is exhausting and utterly decimates one's quality of life.
Best of all it's completely incurable, and I only have it because my parents went behind my back and put me on a risky medication without my knowledge.
 
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Jarni

Jarni

Love is a toothache in the heart. H.Heine
Dec 12, 2020
383
Me... Only physical... Can't exercise, can walk just a little, peripheric nerves damages in all body... In one day... One day I was healthy and another day a hell with all of this... I try to live a little bit with it but every time it seems extremely difficult and nothing is getting better... Just worse or the same... I became too unhappy, because I can't do anything I love and I had lots of passions all my life, I like to do so many things since my childhood... And now just some little things, but not enough for years... :-(
 
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DrWh033

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Dec 23, 2020
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Me... Only physical... Can't exercise, can walk just a little, peripheric nerves damages in all body... In one day... One day I was healthy and another day a hell with all of this... I try to live a little bit with it but every time it seems extremely difficult and nothing is getting better... Just worse or the same... I became too unhappy, because I can't do anything I love and I had lots of passions all my life, I like to do so many things since my childhood... And now just some little things, but not enough for years... :-(
What is your diagnosis ?
 
Jarni

Jarni

Love is a toothache in the heart. H.Heine
Dec 12, 2020
383
What is your diagnosis ?
Peripheral neuropathy, officially, but I have much more troubles than "just" this... Walk or exercice cause real damages to tissues... No doctor know what is going on and it seems to be like I'm the only person in the world to have this... I'd be "happy" to have "just neuropathy" :-/
 
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DrWh033

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Dec 23, 2020
129
I am so surprised that so few in this forum have physical diseases. I would expect larger numbers. Then again if you think about it these people usually just get the necessary information and ctb. They rarely stay around to share thoughts.
 
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Jarni

Love is a toothache in the heart. H.Heine
Dec 12, 2020
383
I am so surprised that so few in this forum have physical diseases. I would expect larger numbers. Then again if you think about it these people usually just get the necessary information and ctb. They rarely stay around to share thoughts.
Maybe... But it is just a moment X... Saw some messages from people with illnesses here, but in the past topics...
The saddest book on the subj is "Two arms and a head"... :-(
 
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Pookie

Pookie

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Oct 18, 2020
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I am so surprised that so few in this forum have physical diseases. I would expect larger numbers. Then again if you think about it these people usually just get the necessary information and ctb. They rarely stay around to share thoughts.
Exactly my thoughts.
 
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NightmareTour

Specialist
May 13, 2020
398
My main problem is physical (neurological, but it's a physical problem with my brain) I can't look after myself and I'm reliant on other people, I can't get around by myself, and I couldn't live on my own. It's restrictive and humiliating, and I have to watch myself deteriorate constantly. Not to mention the constantly changing medications and the constant battle for answers and help from doctors.

I have a lot of problems with trauma too, but I'd probably have the energy and motivation to deal with that and live with it if my health wasn't in a permanent downwards spiral.
 
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DrWh033

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Dec 23, 2020
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My main problem is physical (neurological, but it's a physical problem with my brain) I can't look after myself and I'm reliant on other people, I can't get around by myself, and I couldn't live on my own. It's restrictive and humiliating, and I have to watch myself deteriorate constantly. Not to mention the constantly changing medications and the constant battle for answers and help from doctors.

I have a lot of problems with trauma too, but I'd probably have the energy and motivation to deal with that and live with it if my health wasn't in a permanent downwards spiral.
What exactly is your diagnosis? Can you be more specific?
 
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Ghost2211

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Jan 20, 2020
6,015
Poor vision
Vascular insufficiency
Severe intrinsic asthma
Debilitating transient neurological issues.

Depression is how much that stuff limits independence and life.
 
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succor

tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down
Oct 28, 2020
103
I have many physical diagnoses and they are my main reason for needing to CTB. Before my physical health began to sharply decline I was managing my mental illnesses well, I had a good job, I wasn't suicidal. But then I got sicker and sicker and the pain became too much to bear. I lost my job. I was hospitalized many times in the span of months. I lost and then regained over 70 lbs in a dangerous amount of time. Now I'm on medications that have torturous side effects and I've been on them for a year now. Before all of this I was on the mend. I was doing well. Now I need to be done. This last year and a half has been the worst of my entire life, and that's really, really saying something.l with my history. I'm tired and I need to stop the pain and sickness soon.
 
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EmbraceOfTheVoid

Part Time NEET - Full Time Suicidal
Mar 29, 2020
689
I have carpal and fibromyalgia. Some other physical issues as well but they aren't diagnosed and are psychogenic in nature which I don't think fit your criteria.
 
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Nodscene

Nodscene

Its time
Jun 7, 2019
154
I have Chronic Fatigue as well as Chronic Pain which is the main reason I want to CTB but also suffer from depression as well.

Just the physical symptoms have reduced my quality of life to unlivable and since my back also includes a degenerative aspect it only gets worse over time.
 
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HungryGhost

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Jul 6, 2020
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Yes, i have very severe neurological disorder and brain damage which makes my life unbearable torture. unable to do anything else expect to lay in bed completely still in darkened room and im only able to br on my phone few minutes at a time.
On top of that I also have cPTSD from 20 years of trauma. but that's not the (main) reason why I want to die
 
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Hyperbunny

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Sep 12, 2020
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I have chronic nerve pain
Has been quite resistant to meds. And I dont function well on the meds
 
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Thanatonaut

My time is coming.
May 17, 2019
264
Chronic pain from a botched experimental spine surgery the military did after a parachute accident. I was fine until they took away my pain meds. And they weren't taken away because of anything I did. The damn addicts did this to me.
 
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Hurt

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Nov 13, 2020
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I'm tired of everything. My mind is getting worse as days pass.
 
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Cleopatra123

Arcanist
Jun 8, 2019
488
I wonder how many of you here are people suffering a purely physical incurable progressive disease? I don't mean mental disorder or depression as a result of the disease itself.
Just a physical thing that either through pain or disability has reduced the quality of your life. Thus wanting to ctb
Yes, was wondering that myself. What quality of life? Yes, life endings for degenerative chronic diseases are beyond pitiful. The suffering to inevitable incapacitation should be ended peacefully by request. What rational force would not grant the end to this? Pro-life? How rediculous!!!!!
I'm not that depressed to ctb without my physical disability/illnesses.
So you could say I'm only here because I know there is no hope for me to ever get better and to live a life without having to give up all my dignity at some point. Sadly the thing is that it isn't lethal just progressive.
Life to everyone is lethal. The question is, why must people suffer endlessly to wind up painfully incapacitated eventually. I'm sure some here are at the point of being semi or totally confined, helpless, meaningless and alone as the disease progresses.
I have Chronic Fatigue as well as Chronic Pain which is the main reason I want to CTB but also suffer from depression as well.

Just the physical symptoms have reduced my quality of life to unlivable and since my back also includes a degenerative aspect it only gets worse over time.
I have had ME/CFS struggling through it for 40+ years, and arrived at a point of total misery, body, soul and circumstances and want peace. The body slowly degenerates, symptoms spread causing more disability. I have little time left, and ability to find a way out.
Yes, i have very severe neurological disorder and brain damage which makes my life unbearable torture. unable to do anything else expect to lay in bed completely still in darkened room and im only able to br on my phone few minutes at a time.
On top of that I also have cPTSD from 20 years of trauma. but that's not the (main) reason why I want to die
So sorry about your suffering, I understand torture well. Being in this condition, why would anybody want to live longer?
I have Chronic Fatigue as well as Chronic Pain which is the main reason I want to CTB but also suffer from depression as well.

Just the physical symptoms have reduced my quality of life to unlivable and since my back also includes a degenerative aspect it only gets worse over time.
Anyone who isn't depressed by these illnesses is the exception. Degenerative diseases always become
unlivable. Why can't and don't people understand?
Maybe... But it is just a moment X... Saw some messages from people with illnesses here, but in the past topics...
The saddest book on the subj is "Two arms and a head"... :-(
Once one is well along in a degenerative disease, it becomes difficult to obtain and complete the necissities to cbt due to physical incapacity. Many may need help, which is so rare. WHY? There should be an affordable "Dignitas" in every country!!!!!
I have many physical diagnoses and they are my main reason for needing to CTB. Before my physical health began to sharply decline I was managing my mental illnesses well, I had a good job, I wasn't suicidal. But then I got sicker and sicker and the pain became too much to bear. I lost my job. I was hospitalized many times in the span of months. I lost and then regained over 70 lbs in a dangerous amount of time. Now I'm on medications that have torturous side effects and I've been on them for a year now. Before all of this I was on the mend. I was doing well. Now I need to be done. This last year and a half has been the worst of my entire life, and that's really, really saying something.l with my history. I'm tired and I need to stop the pain and sickness soon.
So sorry for your condition. I'm in a similar situation. Slowly, painfully becoming incapacitated. There is a time to stop people suffering like this, when they have nothing to look forward to except disgusting consequences.
My main problem is physical (neurological, but it's a physical problem with my brain) I can't look after myself and I'm reliant on other people, I can't get around by myself, and I couldn't live on my own. It's restrictive and humiliating, and I have to watch myself deteriorate constantly. Not to mention the constantly changing medications and the constant battle for answers and help from doctors.

I have a lot of problems with trauma too, but I'd probably have the energy and motivation to deal with that and live with it if my health wasn't in a permanent downwards spiral.
My main problem is physical (neurological, but it's a physical problem with my brain) I can't look after myself and I'm reliant on other people, I can't get around by myself, and I couldn't live on my own. It's restrictive and humiliating, and I have to watch myself deteriorate constantly. Not to mention the constantly changing medications and the constant battle for answers and help from doctors.

I have a lot of problems with trauma too, but I'd probably have the energy and motivation to deal with that and live with it if my health wasn't in a permanent downwards spiral.
My main problem is physical (neurological, but it's a physical problem with my brain) I can't look after myself and I'm reliant on other people, I can't get around by myself, and I couldn't live on my own. It's restrictive and humiliating, and I have to watch myself deteriorate constantly. Not to mention the constantly changing medications and the constant battle for answers and help from doctors.

I have a lot of problems with trauma too, but I'd probably have the energy and motivation to deal with that and live with it if my health wasn't in a permanent downwards spiral.
Have very similar issues. Chronic degenerative disease for 40
Yes, was wondering that myself. What quality of life? Yes, life endings for degenerative chronic diseases are beyond pitiful. The suffering to inevitable incapacitation should be ended peacefully by request. What rational force would not grant the end to this? Pro-life? How rediculous!!!!!

Life to everyone is lethal. The question is, why must people suffer endlessly to wind up painfully incapacitated eventually. I'm sure some here are at the point of being semi or totally confined, helpless, meaningless and alone as the disease progresses.

I have had ME/CFS struggling through it for 40+ years, and arrived at a point of total misery, body, soul and circumstances and want peace. The body slowly degenerates, symptoms spread causing more disability. I have little time left, and ability to find a way out.

So sorry about your suffering, I understand torture well. Being in this condition, why would anybody want to live longer?

Anyone who isn't depressed by these illnesses is the exception. Degenerative diseases always become
unlivable. Why can't and don't people understand?

Once one is well along in a degenerative disease, it becomes difficult to obtain and complete the necissities to cbt due to physical incapacity. Many may need help, which is so rare. WHY? There should be an affordable "Dignitas" in every country!!!!!

So sorry for your condition. I'm in a similar situation. Slowly, painfully becoming incapacitated. There is a time to stop people suffering like this, when they have nothing to look forward to except disgusting consequences.
I have very similar issues. Chronic physical illness 40+ years, now physically limited, and dependent on other people.
I'm sorry for everyone here; but glad I found people to communicate with in this situation. Perhaps we can join together for some solutions.
 
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Cleopatra123

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Everybody, anybody, of all the pain and suffering. Anybody have an idea of how we could ban together, those still able, and let people know what life is like for us. There is so much Pro-Life. For our conditions, I see little Pro-Choice promotion. "Death with dignity" I've heard of and sorry, have been so consumed, haven't got to look yet. How can we make the TRUTH of our situations understood. Do the pro lifers care, or would they do anything to help us? What about a U-Tube post, anonymously of course, speaking our pains to the public? Someone good on the computer? More ideas?
 
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CatabolicSeed

they/them
Feb 19, 2020
263
My laundry list of relatively minor physical maladies:
- IBS (painful)
- Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (painful)
- Dishydrotic eczema (NOT a fun combo with dermatillomania and ocd)
- Chronic motor tic disorder (might be developing into Tourette's)

TBH the eczema is my least favorite. It makes my ocd go off like crazy, I get obsessed with the concept of there being stuff under my skin and scratch at it until i'm bleeding everywhere, etc.
 
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Lost10

Member
Feb 24, 2021
80
Yes if I wasn't going to lose my medical, medications, and doctors, which will leave me with no quality of life I wouldn't be here.
Everybody, anybody, of all the pain and suffering. Anybody have an idea of how we could ban together, those still able, and let people know what life is like for us. There is so much Pro-Life. For our conditions, I see little Pro-Choice promotion. "Death with dignity" I've heard of and sorry, have been so consumed, haven't got to look yet. How can we make the TRUTH of our situations understood. Do the pro lifers care, or would they do anything to help us? What about a U-Tube post, anonymously of course, speaking our pains to the public? Someone good on the computer? More ideas?
There's a Facebook page called don't punish pain rally run by a woman named Claudia. It's very large and working towards changing the DEA recommendations to doctors who have force tapered many of their patients off of pain meds that were managing their pain and working well for them. The doctors are afraid as they are threatened with losing their licenses if they don't stop prescribing, etc. This is in the states. Many Chronic pain patients have ctb due to losing their meds.
 
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Downbylife

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Feb 27, 2021
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Me, coping with minor ones like psorasis and spinal disc herniation for more than 15 years now and I kinda was able to function pretty well, but in November I was diagnosed with persistent Neuroborreliosis and nothing is helping probably because of immunosypressants I have been taking since I got diagnosed with psorasis. 4 months spent mainly in bed and if nothing changes until my next birthday I'm not going to live like this...
 
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Life_and_Death

Do what's best for you 🕯️ I'm............
Jul 1, 2020
7,031
Not really a problem. But if I ever need surgery for my back (or just in general) yeah, I'd ctb for that. It would be because I mentally wouldn't be able to handle it due to a phobia of needles so I'm not sure if it would count, although it is a fear of mine that my back will give out.

Basically I want to ctb because of mental but if my back gives out it will basically sign my death certificate for me
 
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