Discussion Anyone here, Rich enough ?

[Parnate]

Is anyone over here Rich enough? . I mean that they can lead a comfortable life for rest of their life without ever working. If so can you share the reason why you wanna ctb

 

[Snake of Eden]

Yes there are well off people on the website and just to give you a synopsis onto why they found themselves here is because money while a big source of comfort and easy living, is not the be all end all answer to life despite what the whole world nowadays thinks and behaves (smh). Money doesnt cure incurable health problems. Money doesnt buy genuine love and friendhship although may help. Money does not remove aging or dying. Money also happens to be a magnet for delusional thinking, stress and all types of bad influences and predators although this may seem paradoxical. Money is one of those things that it is not as it is cracked up to be. Plus everyone thinks you achieved some level of Godhood by getting rich so here is that.

 

[Mashedout]

Money can't buy anything that really matters. It just buys distractions once you've covered the basics of food, water, shelter while we wait for death.

 

[Snake of Eden]

Money can't buy anything that really matters. It just buys distractions once you've covered the basics of food, water, shelter while we wait for death.

Unfortunately this is not the common consciousness. Everyone thinks and behaves that money is the end all be all ultimate goal of life. How lost are we?

 

[lostautist]

I'm facing losing everything due to a work accident that was not my fault. I've lived homeless before when I was younger, that was no big deal, staying with friends and hanging out. I won't do it again. I'm alone and have no support structure now.

 

[Snake of Eden]

If people have extra money that they dont need or their future 10th grandchild dont need, they should give it away to people who need it and I dont mean by that "philanthropy" and charities that use most of donated money to pay off their staff, I mean actually giving that money to people who need it

 

[lostautist]

Life is rough and most people don't care. People are too self absorbed. I've started giving things away but I don't have many friends here. I moved to get a new start and until my accident it was looking good. It's turned into a new end. All I want is to work hard but I can't go back into my backup plan.

 

[Snake of Eden]

Life is rough and most people don't care. People are too self absorbed. I've started giving things away but I don't have many friends here. I moved to get a new start and until my accident it was looking good. It's turned into a new end. All I want is to work hard but I can't go back into my backup plan.

It is only a matter of time until ever growing self-absorption and self-worship will fire back. There is a limit until the world cant sustain itself with so many people with that type of mentality

 

[Starchaser]

I own an absurd amount of money, I also have an incurable disease (Meniere's Disease) which give me symptoms 24h/day and makes me suicidal on 90% of the time.

There is no cure for me, and no money is enough to make me live with this agony.
Health is the real money, but most ppl will only realize it when they don't have no more health

Didn't CTBed yet because my mom would suffer terribly and I'm still not ready for that.

 

[Fenrirsend]

I can see where money wouldn't make life better for alotta people... In all honesty I've never cared about it and I doubt it'd make me happy for long.

But I'm poor what do I know? ...I'm at a point where I'm 3k away from being able to afford my way home and get back to living and someone who loves me.....but I have zero ways to get it right now. So I'm trapped on the opposite side of the world with no chance of getting home and will be homeless and lose everything soon.

Still I imagine having lots of money kinda gives you the trapped in another world feeling, loneliness of not knowing who actually cares about you or who cares about your bank account.

 

[Snake of Eden]

I can see where money wouldn't make life better for alotta people... In all honesty I've never cared about it and I doubt it'd make me happy for long.

But I'm poor what do I know? ...I'm at a point where I'm 3k away from being able to afford my way home and get back to living and someone who loves me.....but I have zero ways to get it right now. So I'm trapped on the opposite side of the world with no chance of getting home and will be homeless and lose everything soon.

Still I imagine having lots of money kinda gives you the trapped in another world feeling, loneliness of not knowing who actually cares about you or who cares about your bank account.

Money is of course the most important thing when you need it for basics and necessities. I am sorry you are in such position. Are you in anyway able to ask for help so you get wherever you need so you are not in a compromised position in life?

 

[Fenrirsend]

Money is of course the most important thing when you need it for basics and necessities. I am sorry you are in such position. Are you in anyway able to ask for help so you get wherever you need so you are not in a compromised position in life?

No one to ask.....I came to where I am to help with a sick relative who had cancer...was supposed to be short term. They lost their fight and I was supposed to go home to my gf and life...but covid..to get back I gotta get visa redone and approved ,plane ticket "very expensive" and quarantine....I've saved everything I can and got most of it covered...I gotta bout 3k left to go and absolutely no way to get it......bout to lose where I'm staying and out of anyone to ask for help.... Tried everything.. help groups, churches everything........if I could get last bit id be home within month working, be with one person in the world who cares about me again and be ok.... It's like it's being dangled in front of my face just outa reach. Just to make it hurt that much more

 

[Snake of Eden]

I am so sorry. Did you try gofundme and stuff like that to explain your situation? Also maybe some humane leaning journalists, TV, mayors or district people, social workers. They may lead you to a way to gather that money or know someone who can buy you your ticket. I am sorry you are in such a situation

 

[Fenrirsend]

I am so sorry. Did you try gofundme and stuff like that to explain your situation? Also maybe some humane leaning journalists, TV, mayors or district people, social workers. They may lead you to a way to gather that money or know someone who can buy you your ticket. I am sorry you are in such a situation

Gofundme really only works if you have friends who will donate or make the news or something. Tried journalist they basically told me "that's COVIDs fault, unless your a condo death we don't care"......I've reached out to anyone who will listen....sadly on a time limit now and outa options....by the way thanks....it's nice to have someone actually listen and not instantly be "not my problem" been a while for that.

 

[meetapple]

If people have extra money that they dont need or their future 10th grandchild dont need, they should give it away to people who need it and I dont mean by that "philanthropy" and charities that use most of donated money to pay off their staff, I mean actually giving that money to people who need it

This would be good for the donor as well as the donee. The problem is that a lot of people with money only donate to causes that affect them or their immediate family.

 

[Snake of Eden]

Gofundme really only works if you have friends who will donate or make the news or something. Tried journalist they basically told me "that's COVIDs fault, unless your a condo death we don't care"......I've reached out to anyone who will listen....sadly on a time limit now and outa options....by the way thanks....it's nice to have someone actually listen and not instantly be "not my problem" been a while for that.

I pray that something comes in your way.

 

[Capsicum_Corral]

No one to ask.....I came to where I am to help with a sick relative who had cancer...was supposed to be short term. They lost their fight and I was supposed to go home to my gf and life...but covid..to get back I gotta get visa redone and approved ,plane ticket "very expensive" and quarantine....I've saved everything I can and got most of it covered...I gotta bout 3k left to go and absolutely no way to get it......bout to lose where I'm staying and out of anyone to ask for help.... Tried everything.. help groups, churches everything........if I could get last bit id be home within month working, be with one person in the world who cares about me again and be ok.... It's like it's being dangled in front of my face just outa reach. Just to make it hurt that much more

Have you considered something like gofundme? Some people seem to have success in getting donations from random people on the internet. Your story seems sympathetic enough to maybe raise the funds you need to get home.

Oh, already suggested. Maybe still worth a shot? You could post about it on reddit, maybe include pics of relevant travel/cancer/etc documents to show it's not a scam.

 

[motel rooms]

I'm rich, but I wanna ctb cuz I still can't afford to send big metal phallic objects into space like that bald dick who makes warehouse workers pee in bottles.

 

[Samsal112]

I own an absurd amount of money, I also have an incurable disease (Meniere's Disease) which give me symptoms 24h/day and makes me suicidal on 90% of the time.

There is no cure for me, and no money is enough to make me live with this agony.
Health is the real money, but most ppl will only realize it when they don't have no more health

Didn't CTBed yet because my mom would suffer terribly and I'm still not ready for that.

When I was younger, I would get so annoyed with anyone who said something along the lines of "I am just happy I am healthy." Or "I give thanks for my health." I thought health was a given and that money or a significant other was something to be thankful for. But, once I got sick, I realized how important and precious health really is! You said it perfectly with "Health is the real money." I am not rich but I live comfortably and I would give anything for my health back.

 

[Onkyo74893]

Is anyone over here Rich enough? . I mean that they can lead a comfortable life for rest of their life without ever working. If so can you share the reason why you wanna ctb

I worked 37 years at a job I gradually came to hate just so I could collect a comfortable pension when I retired. I've been retired 5 years now, but the last year has been hell due to severe depression. As others here may have pointed out, once you have enough money for decent housing, food and clothing, any extra money won't make you any happier. Just look at some famous people who have ended their own lives. Money doesn't make you immune to mental illness.

 

[lostautist]

But, once I got sick, I realized how important and precious health really is! You said it perfectly with "Health is the real money." I am not rich but I live comfortably and I would give anything for my health back.

I wish I could say the same.

I've been both sick and poor. I was bedridden for almost two years nearly a decade ago to undiagnosable gastrointestinal issues. Every test in the world and I was only getting more sick. At one point I was sure I was going to die but I could afford the basics and was alive. And while my health is ok right now, with the exception of a bad work injury, I won't survive if I lose everything as my family has passed and I have no suport. I wouldn't wish my predicament on anyone. Life is rough. All I want is to work. I might not have that and it's terrifying.

 

[Hyd999]

I owne my own company and broke so many records in 2021 but it feels like the more success i have with my company the more my personal life fails.

Success is just a number. Sales went up over 35% in 2021 compared to 2020 and things are still trending upward. But it literally doesnt matter. 35%- so what? Even if sales went up an extra 80% next year it still dont matter. Still feel like shit randomly throughout the day due to depression.

Still need to find courage to catch the bus

 

[Fenrirsend]

I pray that something comes in your way.

Thanks. it's appreciated....at this point tho unless I win the lottery or some ruch person just throws 3k my way I'm pretty much screwed.

 

[SoDead]

Money can't buy anything that really matters

Freedom from work matters a lot. As well as freedom from many other negative factors which money can buy.
It also can really help to get guarantees that once your life becomes too bad due to some incurable illness or severe trauma, euthanasia will be readily accessible to you, whatever the laws say.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

I fucking hate money. I find it so twisted and dark. We have a thread with someone needing 3k to get home, while also someone saying they have so much money and still cannot solve a disease they have. I'm feeling shit tonight and want to shoot myself.

 

[Samsal112]

I wish I could say the same.

I've been both sick and poor. I was bedridden for almost two years nearly a decade ago to undiagnosable gastrointestinal issues. Every test in the world and I was only getting more sick. At one point I was sure I was going to die but I could afford the basics and was alive. And while my health is ok right now, with the exception of a bad work injury, I won't survive if I lose everything as my family has passed and I have no suport. I wouldn't wish my predicament on anyone. Life is rough. All I want is to work. I might not have that and it's terrifying.

I am sorry to hear that. I was writing from the point of view of living comfortably and not being rich. Did you ever figure out your GI issues? I am having severe GI issues and no one can figure it out. I live in the US where healthcare is so specialized that no one can help unless it's in their field. I am thinking my GI issues may be the cause of my other symptoms but anytime I bring that up, I am referred to another expensive specialist.

 

[LADY007]

Is anyone over here Rich enough? . I mean that they can lead a comfortable life for rest of their life without ever working. If so can you share the reason why you wanna ctb

Very simple....once a nursing home is needed ..there goes all the money. State laws differ a bit but basically the spouse of the person going into the nursing home can only keep a small portion of money. Between this fact and all the ailments a person gets and now being alone ....money can't solve some of these things. A wealthy person can hire help...but now has to trust the help and that has caused many problems.

 

[roguetrader]

Can never be rich enough
Money only allows you to delude yourself that you're still ok while physically you're getting worse and worse as you age.

 

[niki wonoto]

I feel the urge to respond to the OP (it's a good thread, & very important for people to know, IMHO).

Although I don't live in the developed first world country (I live in Indonesia), but I think/feel that I've been quite privileged enough so far especially in terms of economic & financial background. I've come from a middle-to-upper family background. I used to study in U.S for 4 years back then in 2000. I've also traveled a lot in the past, etc etc. And even now during the financial/economic stress, I can honestly say that I'm still living a privileged (& spoiled) life, compared to even a lot of my friends which are not so fortunate that many of them still have to work hard everyday for other people, paid salary, which are not the 'high-end corporate' type of salaries, but probably just a middle-to-lower salary (money).

So back to the OP's question: why rich people (or quite well-off & privileged people) can still be depressed, & even want to ctb (or to be straight-forward, still feel suicidal)? I think some comments here are already good enough to give some hints/clues & even answers as to why is that. To put it in simple words, sometimes (or often times) things are not that simple, in life. There are many factors & reasons (even perhaps the 'absurd' ones) why even the supposedly 'rich people' can still be depressed, feeling suicidal, or even committed suicide (or ctb).

Personally, in my own case, it's mostly due to several reasons/factors if I may guess & summed it up:

1) Feeling like a failure, and a burden especially to my parents (especially being born in Asian culture/family. I myself am actually a Chinese-Indonesian, which means I basically still adhere to the Chinese traditions & family values as well). To be very honest, I'm gonna be 40 years old this year, and here I am now still living (& dependent) with my parents, as well as my younger brother who is also in his 30's. So you can imagine how disappointed & stressful it must have been to both my parents (whom probably have high expectations to their kids/children).

2) My younger brother's chronic pain, which sadly seems to getting worse, since 2017. My brother had a tailbone/coccyx pain, that have made him can't even sit down, due to the pain. My mother, especially, have tried bring my brother to a LOT of medications, therapies, etc etc etc, but still no results, & in fact his pain only getting worse now (after last year's massage treatment). My brother is severely depressed (& perhaps even much more suicidal than me). It puts a LOT of stress to my family, that we're even become depressed (& anxiety) now.

3) Family problems, which is mostly perhaps the results from problem #1 and #2 above. It's even getting worse now because of job/business-related problems (even though like I've said above, I think/feel that financially-speaking, at least my family & parents are still not broke, and we're now still living quite okay, even during financial/economic stress & hardships now). But all of these have made my family now to have conflicts, quarrels, & quite 'broken' family now, compared to when we're all used to be a 'happy family' back then when we're still young.

4) Finally, but not least at all, it's basically about my own 'personal' problems too (which sadly, most people even in my family & friends seems to underestimate & judged as "nothing serious"). I've had a lot of 'mental/psychological' problems, but probably the worst of all is what's called an existential depression (or crisis). I myself am (or at least consider myself to be) a "freethinker & truthseeker", who've always been a "deep thinker" who've often asked & searched for life's "biggest questions" (philosophically, especially, eg: meaning of life). But the more I read & know also about this world, life, (human's) society, existence, & basically the reality of everything, I've become even much more depressed now. Of course, my family (especially my parents) & my friends only think that I'm "lazy, spoiled, ungrateful, negative, toxic, weak, loser/failure", etc etc etc. Unfortunately, little that they all know, it all only made me even much more severely/heavily depressed (& suicidal) now, because I think/feel of how much a 'pathetic' loser/failure I am, that I often ask myself this question (even almost EVERYDAY now): Why a person like me still live (or exist) in this world? Why I shouldn't just 'ctb' ?
The saddest, & perhaps the most tragic irony of all, is how basically almost everyone has told me of how much potentials & talents I have (especially in music; I'm a failed musician basically), & even for a quite 'good-looking & rich' guy, which my friends (& a lot of people) often think when they see me at the first time.

I hope this might answer the OP's question.

( PS / NB : I also often think of the lead/main vocalist of the very famous/popular rock band Linkin Park: Chester Bennington. By all our standards even, he is successful, famous, popular, probably rich, influential, inspiring, etc etc etc. But yet in the end, he STILL ctb / committed suicide. Even I myself could still often ask the same questions as the OP : why "rich & famous & successful" person like him still ctb / suicide ? Again, in conclusion, it's not that simple as most people think. Life is complicated. )

- from Indonesia -

 

[lostautist]

On a side note, the person who started the Inert Gas Exit Bag Megathread, @TiredHorse, ended up affording euthanasia or AS in a country where that is legal. So if you're well off you may very well be able to find peace without the struggle of doing it all by yourself.

I am sorry to hear that. I was writing from the point of view of living comfortably and not being rich. Did you ever figure out your GI issues? I am having severe GI issues and no one can figure it out. I live in the US where healthcare is so specialized that no one can help unless it's in their field. I am thinking my GI issues may be the cause of my other symptoms but anytime I bring that up, I am referred to another expensive specialist.

I was living comfortably until my injury, now I'm hopeless and suffering physical pain which is no big deal on it's own, but all the stress and anxiety of losing everything, which I know at this point in life I won't be able to get past.

My GI symptoms. I'm fairly certain it all started when I was prescribed Ciproflox for I don't even remember what for anymore. It started off as IBS-C and I had an extreme pain event where i just felt horrible. I ended up becoming lactose intolerant and had trouble digesting food. I also started piling up symptoms, body and hand pain, inability to focus, anxiety, etc... I was tested for Chrons, Celiac and GERD and had my blood tested for pretty much everything with all my tests coming back normal. I couldn't really function. I did have pretty much all the symptoms of Leaky Gut Syndrome. And things only got worse. I started having bone pain and ended up seeing a Rheumatologist. One she started throwing around things like Raynauds and Lupus, I decided that they wouldn't be able to diagnose or help fix anything.

I bought a Vitamix and ended up blending my food so I could absorb nutrients. I ended up going through various elimination diets for 2-4 weeks at a time. I ended up going with kind of a combination between the Stanford University SIBO and either John Hopkins or Mayo Clinic SIBO diets, eliminating things that weren't on either of them until I started improving. After a while, I was able to drink milk again and things started getting better until I could add regular food. I still had to be careful of what I ate, but got better over the years.

A LOT of symptoms unrelated to typical GI issues can be caused by Enteric system disorders. It's called the 2nd Brain for good reason. Just minor biome issues can cause all sorts of problems with many people. It's possible that a number of people here are suffering from Enteric System Disorders that don't even display as GI issues. Nervous system disorders, mood and emotional disorders, immune system disorders, food allergies... I even read a study that suggested that one cause for a type of schizophrenia seemed to be Enteric related. There is still not a lot known about what healthy gut bacteria is actually supposed to look like and treatments like FMT, a treatment literally thousands of years old, which I believe would have helped me have become outlawed so Big Pharm can patent bacterial treatments.

You really need to research legitimate studies on all of your symptoms on medical sites and universities because there is a lot of published research that is not known by many GIs. Individually search Stanford, Cornell, NIH, Pubmed, etc... with various search terms looking for studies. You may not understand a lot of the genetic or specific medical terminology, but there are always sections that will be readable.

If it's not a legitimate published scientific study, do not even bother with it. There is plenty of homeopathy, naturopathy and supplement manufacturer garbage and scams online. If you're considering taking ANY supplement, pretty much every one has been studied by at least one teaching medical university with legitimate scientific findings.