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Samsal112

Samsal112

Student
Dec 20, 2021
179
On a side note, the person who started the Inert Gas Exit Bag Megathread, @TiredHorse, ended up affording euthanasia or AS in a country where that is legal. So if you're well off you may very well be able to find peace without the struggle of doing it all by yourself.



I was living comfortably until my injury, now I'm hopeless and suffering physical pain which is no big deal on it's own, but all the stress and anxiety of losing everything, which I know at this point in life I won't be able to get past.

My GI symptoms. I'm fairly certain it all started when I was prescribed Ciproflox for I don't even remember what for anymore. It started off as IBS-C and I had an extreme pain event where i just felt horrible. I ended up becoming lactose intolerant and had trouble digesting food. I also started piling up symptoms, body and hand pain, inability to focus, anxiety, etc... I was tested for Chrons, Celiac and GERD and had my blood tested for pretty much everything with all my tests coming back normal. I couldn't really function. I did have pretty much all the symptoms of Leaky Gut Syndrome. And things only got worse. I started having bone pain and ended up seeing a Rheumatologist. One she started throwing around things like Raynauds and Lupus, I decided that they wouldn't be able to diagnose or help fix anything.

I bought a Vitamix and ended up blending my food so I could absorb nutrients. I ended up going through various elimination diets for 2-4 weeks at a time. I ended up going with kind of a combination between the Stanford University SIBO and either John Hopkins or Mayo Clinic SIBO diets, eliminating things that weren't on either of them until I started improving. After a while, I was able to drink milk again and things started getting better until I could add regular food. I still had to be careful of what I ate, but got better over the years.

A LOT of symptoms unrelated to typical GI issues can be caused by Enteric system disorders. It's called the 2nd Brain for good reason. Just minor biome issues can cause all sorts of problems with many people. It's possible that a number of people here are suffering from Enteric System Disorders that don't even display as GI issues. Nervous system disorders, mood and emotional disorders, immune system disorders, food allergies... I even read a study that suggested that one cause for a type of schizophrenia seemed to be Enteric related. There is still not a lot known about what healthy gut bacteria is actually supposed to look like and treatments like FMT, a treatment literally thousands of years old, which I believe would have helped me have become outlawed so Big Pharm can patent bacterial treatments.

You really need to research legitimate studies on all of your symptoms on medical sites and universities because there is a lot of published research that is not known by many GIs. Individually search Stanford, Cornell, NIH, Pubmed, etc... with various search terms looking for studies. You may not understand a lot of the genetic or specific medical terminology, but there are always sections that will be readable.

If it's not a legitimate published scientific study, do not even bother with it. There is plenty of homeopathy, naturopathy and supplement manufacturer garbage and scams online. If you're considering taking ANY supplement, pretty much every one has been studied by at least one teaching medical university with legitimate scientific findings.
I am so sorry to hear about your chronic journey, but you are one heck of a fighter! I have the same thing going on. I do believe I have SIBO and have an appointment tomorrow with a dietician to go over the tests. GI doctors were never any help and diagnosed me with IBS. I believe I had gastritis due to stress, caffeine, and eating poorly, but rather than tackle the gastritis, all the tests I took were looking for some obstruction. After 2 years of being so sick, I started researching and I came up with the exact same thing you did! GI issues can cause a myriad of symptoms, but because our health system is so specialized, no one caught it. I ended up having my gallbladder out which has made everything worse. I was bedridden for 6 months. But, I believe my GI is causing my vision problems, neurological problems, sleep problems, fatigue, and nervous system issues. I also read that a lot of depression and even autoimmune diseases are caused by our poor microbiome. I had read about the schizophrenia as well and suggested that on benzobuddies, but that did not go over so well with the platform. It is great to hear someone say the exact same thing I have been saying all along!

I am sadden to hear of your illness, but I am appreciative that I got to meet here :)
 
lostautist

lostautist

wandering
Jan 12, 2022
225
I am so sorry to hear about your chronic journey, but you are one heck of a fighter! I have the same thing going on. I do believe I have SIBO and have an appointment tomorrow with a dietician to go over the tests. GI doctors were never any help and diagnosed me with IBS. I believe I had gastritis due to stress, caffeine, and eating poorly, but rather than tackle the gastritis, all the tests I took were looking for some obstruction. After 2 years of being so sick, I started researching and I came up with the exact same thing you did! GI issues can cause a myriad of symptoms, but because our health system is so specialized, no one caught it. I ended up having my gallbladder out which has made everything worse. I was bedridden for 6 months. But, I believe my GI is causing my vision problems, neurological problems, sleep problems, fatigue, and nervous system issues. I also read that a lot of depression and even autoimmune diseases are caused by our poor microbiome. I had read about the schizophrenia as well and suggested that on benzobuddies, but that did not go over so well with the platform. It is great to hear someone say the exact same thing I have been saying all along!

I am sadden to hear of your illness, but I am appreciative that I got to meet here :)
Yeah, it's actually not uncommon but because of all the naturopathic, homeopathic and supplemental disinformation online, and due to a lack of solid medical research about intestinal issues in Humans, most GI's either don't believe or don't understand what the problem is. Luckily in the last decade, more funding has been going to researching this area and advancements are being made recently.

It's sad that more is known of cattle and pig intestinal disorders than that in humans, but that's been funded by the livestock industry to produce better, so yeah, there's that. And fecal matter transplants have helped a lot of patients in the past, it's origins as treatment is thousands of years old but that's been outlawed almost everywhere except if you get a C.Diff infection and can get emergency use authorization, which was nearly impossible last time I looked into it. Big pharm wants to patent bacterial treatments.

Here's a link to the Stanford Diet

The other diet I was referring to was the Cedars Sinai diet, but they mention 3 diets here: https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/irritable-bowel-syndrome-mark-pimentel-md/

Paleo seemed to be kinda ok for me too.

Good to meet you as well. The Vitamix and that diet saved my life.
 
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SuicidallyCurious

Enlightened
Dec 20, 2020
1,715
I can lead the life I want to live up to an age where I'm no longer comfortable living . It may be tough toward the end or if I had a sudden medical problem but if I had a medical issue that would be a great reason to ctb .
 
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BeenDoneForSoLong

BeenDoneForSoLong

Can't wait to be another statistic
Feb 6, 2019
82
yeA, im just fucking over it hey, no motivation no anything, life is hard, death is easy.
 
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Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Enlightened
Aug 28, 2021
1,019
I stopped working as soon as I made enough money to live on rental income. From that point in time nothing distracts me anymore from my masochistic, self destructing, suicidal thoughts. In my experience a fulfilling job is the best suicide prevention.
 
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summers

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Nov 4, 2020
2,493
I have plenty to live comfortably. But even if I had as much as Musk or Bezos, it wouldn't change my plans. There's no amount of money that will make me younger, or even stop aging.
 
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SuicidallyCurious

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Dec 20, 2020
1,715
I stopped working as soon as I made enough money to live on rental income. From that point in time nothing distracts me anymore from my masochistic, self destructing, suicidal thoughts. In my experience a fulfilling job is the best suicide prevention.
Yeh you're right about this , a fulfilling job really is the best suicide prevention. Even mainstream media narratives acknowledge the lack of quality jobs is fueling suicide crisis
I have plenty to live comfortably. But even if I had as much as Musk or Bezos, it wouldn't change my plans. There's no amount of money that will make me younger, or even stop aging.
I feel you on this one and it's one of the top reasons for me as well.
 
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downndone2

Living in misery
Jan 23, 2022
1,270
While I'm not in a position to stop working 4ever, I'm in a good position. I'll also eventually have a sizable inheritance.
Here's what I did to get me into this desperate position.
In 2018-2019, I went nuts for about 8 months. During that time, I lost my marriage, most of my friends, business, and 6 figures. I also made a complete a$$ of myself during that time. I was manic and so hateful.
Since late 2019, I have been stuck in a deep and dark depression. I have terrible anxiety just leaving the house to hit a drive thru. Everything is a trigger!
I'm still here for my grown kids and dogs.
Sadly, I'm counting down the days to where my life insurance has to pay out for any reason, once the 2 year clause has ended.
 
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SuicidallyCurious

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Dec 20, 2020
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While I'm not in a position to stop working 4ever, I'm in a good position. I'll also eventually have a sizable inheritance.
Here's what I did to get me into this desperate position.
In 2018-2019, I went nuts for about 8 months. During that time, I lost my marriage, most of my friends, business, and 6 figures. I also made a complete a$$ of myself during that time. I was manic and so hateful.
Since late 2019, I have been stuck in a deep and dark depression. I have terrible anxiety just leaving the house to hit a drive thru. Everything is a trigger!
I'm still here for my grown kids and dogs.
Sadly, I'm counting down the days to where my life insurance has to pay out for any reason, once the 2 year clause has ended.
lol, omg , I had conceptualized about the 2 years on mine too
 
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SofterSoftest

SofterSoftest

Student
Dec 30, 2021
186
In my experience a fulfilling job is the best suicide prevention.
Careful what you wish for.

I 'have money' in the sense that I have a well-paying, professional job. That being said, I depend on work to make money - my family left me with virtually no wealth, and I live in a country where everything is impossibly expensive. I make a six-figure income but I easily work ~80+ hours a week and I absolutely hate every second of it. It's also a job that everyone thinks on the surface is 'fulfilling' because it is one in which I impact people's lives on some level and one that involved years of university training, but I really just do it to support my husband who is not educated and works a minimum wage job. If only he were to work, we would only make enough money to cover 1/6 of our expenses (we wouldn't even make rent).

Yes, I really do think if I had a ton of money, I probably wouldn't want to CTB. At least I wouldn't feel like I'm obligated to waste my entire life on work while agonizing internally over my mental health.
 
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Z-bar

Try DMT
Dec 15, 2021
46
My time in prison allowed me to live with next to nothing and find something to look forward to none the less each day, and year after year for 5 years.
So having endless options out here beyond those walls I can always remember a time I had no choices and be greatful.
Oh How the mind likes to forget at times...

I answered a different thread saying how Simple things like creature comforts would be enough for me to live happily ever after, and I prolly would.
As long as I could keep up my habits and be able to move around the planet, go to concerts, raves and festivals, And help others by changing their lives, paying it forward if you will, I would be content yes.
I would still experience my bipolar, and depression but I would have top doctors prescribing me what I know helps me vs what they feel I shouldn't be prescribed because of my place in the food chain.

If your reading this Try to Have a good day.

I understand the differences between those with terminal illnesses suffering and my mental health suffering
 
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Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Enlightened
Aug 28, 2021
1,019
Careful what you wish for.

I 'have money' in the sense that I have a well-paying, professional job. That being said, I depend on work to make money - my family left me with virtually no wealth, and I live in a country where everything is impossibly expensive. I make a six-figure income but I easily work ~80+ hours a week and I absolutely hate every second of it. It's also a job that everyone thinks on the surface is 'fulfilling' because it is one in which I impact people's lives on some level and one that involved years of university training, but I really just do it to support my husband who is not educated and works a minimum wage job. If only he were to work, we would only make enough money to cover 1/6 of our expenses (we wouldn't even make rent).

Yes, I really do think if I had a ton of money, I probably wouldn't want to CTB. At least I wouldn't feel like I'm obligated to waste my entire life on work while agonizing internally over my mental health.
If you hate every second of your working it is definitely not a fulfilling job. I am an engineer and engineers are like children who want to play. Like most of my colleges I was happy that I was allowed to play, holidays were and unwanted interruption and the money was only important for my wife. Unfortunately I had to travel each weekend to see my family, that was the reason why I quitted my job when I made enough money. And than I fell into a deep hole.
 
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notfailingagain

Member
Jul 6, 2021
9
My depression is so intertwined with my lack of money and me feeling not being able to make money. Learned helplessness sucks.

The end of this month I won't be receiving benefits anymore from the government so I don't know what I'll do really. Can't pay rent, my car is broke, my diet has been awful this month and I'm about to flunk university. I think about CTB every night but never get going.
 
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