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babydeer

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going to try one last time to get my life together. the problem is, I haven't had a job for a whole year since I dropped out of college, and the job that I was working at while in school. I didn't exactly part with well...I just stopped going to work cause I was planning to ctb, but when I chickened out I never went back. stupid, I know. And I have the absolute worst social anxiety when it comes to interviews too.

any advice? thanks for reading.
 
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Tackingintothewind

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Mar 2, 2021
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Yes I was.
I saw a job advertised on indeed and realised the boss was a friend of my mum. I didn't apply for the job in the usual way but used that connection to get an interview and trial run which I passed.

In terms of anxiety for me if it is not a job I care about I am much calmer. So maybe tell yourself this interview doesn't matter.

If you cant network try doing temporary jobs and volunteering to acquire references, you can also do a short course and get a reference from the instructor.

Good luck
 
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BeansOfRequirement

Behind the guilt was compassion
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It's normie or bust. I did well on a phone interview recently but once I mentioned not having any references for my previous jobs they lost interest.
 
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Debbie Northampton U

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What about working for yourself? It's easy (and I can help) to get a local biz website on the front of search engine results and will cost you £2 a month. So if there's anything you want to do, that you are naturally good at or want to learn, maybe that could be a way to go?
 
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Doormat

Life is never so bad that it can't get any worse
May 22, 2020
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Yes I was.
I saw a job advertised on indeed and realised the boss was a friend of my mum. I didn't apply for the job in the usual way but used that connection to get an interview and trial run which I passed.

In terms of anxiety for me if it is not a job I care about I am much calmer. So maybe tell yourself this interview doesn't matter.

If you cant network try doing temporary jobs and volunteering to acquire references, you can also do a short course and get a reference from the instructor.

Good luck
Excellent advice!
 
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MMB

Every form of refuge has its price
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Depends on what kind of job you want to do. I've managed to get jobs quite easily without references but it's the kind of work where you get found out very quickly if you're incompetent.
 
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WornOutLife

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Yes, I had no experience teaching and some institutions hired me anyway.
The only "experience" I had written down was "private lessons" so, it was the same as nothing lol.

However, I wrote lots of stuff in the education and general knowledge section.
They love when you add peculiar stuff! For example, my employers used to be quite astonished when I mentioned that I was studying japanese and knew how to edit videos and images.

Anyway, hope you can have some good luck and get a nice job and if nothing happens, do what one of my friends did:

Watch lots of programming videos on YouTube (such as a Java course) until you learn! You'll get a job instantly once you have the knowledge. My friend has lots of money now and he barely finished high school!

Hugs,

Matt
 
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babydeer

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Yes I was.
I saw a job advertised on indeed and realised the boss was a friend of my mum. I didn't apply for the job in the usual way but used that connection to get an interview and trial run which I passed.

In terms of anxiety for me if it is not a job I care about I am much calmer. So maybe tell yourself this interview doesn't matter.

If you cant network try doing temporary jobs and volunteering to acquire references, you can also do a short course and get a reference from the instructor.

Good luck
I like the course idea a lot. I feel like I'm not really good with people one on one but I've always been a good student. Thanks a lot!
It's normie or bust. I did well on a phone interview recently but once I mentioned not having any references for my previous jobs they lost interest.
That's what it seems like :( But I hope you have better luck!
What about working for yourself? It's easy (and I can help) to get a local biz website on the front of search engine results and will cost you £2 a month. So if there's anything you want to do, that you are naturally good at or want to learn, maybe that could be a way to go?
True, that's an option. I love baking and I have some friends and family that enjoy my treats, but I guess I feel kind of sleazy reaching out to them about buying stuff from me that usually I just give to them, you know? But, self-employment in general is not a bad idea. Thanks :)
Depends on what kind of job you want to do. I've managed to get jobs quite easily without references but it's the kind of work where you get found out very quickly if you're incompetent.
I'm fine with whatever at the moment since I have no idea what I want to do long term. What kind of jobs have you gotten?
 
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MMB

Every form of refuge has its price
Mar 14, 2021
53
I'm fine with whatever at the moment since I have no idea what I want to do long term. What kind of jobs have you gotten?

I'm a plumber & heating engineer. People would know in a very short time if I didn't know my job. So references aren't so important.
 
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babydeer

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Yes, I had no experience teaching and some institutions hired me anyway.
The only "experience" I had written down was "private lessons" so, it was the same as nothing lol.

However, I wrote lots of stuff in the education and general knowledge section.
They love when you add peculiar stuff! For example, my employers used to be quite astonished when I mentioned that I was studying japanese and knew how to edit videos and images.

Anyway, hope you can have some good luck and get a nice job and if nothing happens, do what one of my friends did:

Watch lots of programming videos on YouTube (such as a Java course) until you learn! You'll get a job instantly once you have the knowledge. My friend has lots of money now and he barely finished high school!

Hugs,

Matt
Ah, I took Japanese in high school. Wish I remembered more of it, it's a beautiful language. Are you self-studying or did you take courses?

I guess programming is the big thing now! I can't get my head around it, but I may have to keep trying. Thanks for the advice :) Best wishes!
 
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kovkay

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Jun 29, 2020
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I tried to apply to a temp agency but they wanted references so I noped out of there. There might be pre-employment workshops in your area that pay you to learn how to create a resume, how to work and stuff like that. They also tend to connect you to a few months of work. But it's mainly minimum wage jobs.
 
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babydeer

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Sep 28, 2019
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I tried to apply to a temp agency but they wanted references so I noped out of there. There might be pre-employment workshops in your area that pay you to learn how to create a resume, how to work and stuff like that. They also tend to connect you to a few months of work. But it's mainly minimum wage jobs.
That's why I haven't applied to one :( But I like the workshop idea. Hopefully I could get a reference out of the workshop or out of a job they get me. Thanks!
 
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WornOutLife

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Mar 22, 2020
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Ah, I took Japanese in high school. Wish I remembered more of it, it's a beautiful language. Are you self-studying or did you take courses?

I'm learning on my own!
At first, you have no clue about where to start buit then you get used to it.
I highly recommend the "Japanese from Zero" saga. Amazing books!
 
ManWithNoName

ManWithNoName

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Feb 2, 2019
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It's normie or bust. I did well on a phone interview recently but once I mentioned not having any references for my previous jobs they lost interest.
It may depend on the kind of job one applies for. I know a guy who worked at Walmart, all he did was apply. And there were guys that worked there that had felony convictions for weed, though I would imagine this is a gray area since the stuff is actually legal in a few States, even though not in the state of the Walmart he worked at.
 
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BeansOfRequirement

Behind the guilt was compassion
Jan 26, 2021
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It may depend on the kind of job one applies for. I know a guy who worked at Walmart, all he did was apply. And there were guys that worked there that had felony convictions for weed, though I would imagine this is a gray area since the stuff is actually legal in a few States, even though not in the state of the Walmart he worked at.
Yep, a lot of luck involved. I'd say the biggest factor to getting a job is actually wanting a job. If you deep down just want to die there is just no way to compete with parents wanting to feed their children or lovers aspiring to buy an apartment together. An understaffed field of work seems to be needed (meaning little to no competition).
 
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MindFrog

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I'm trying to apply on one rn. But I dont know if i'll pass their exam. Maybe you can look up some beginner transcription jobs ( check if they're legit). They usually dont need much requirements.

Hope we both get there..
 
Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
Feb 23, 2020
2,910
I am waiting to hear from a fake reference company in the USA called careerexcuse.com they have fake companies, so employers can call or e-mail them and receive an excellent reference and you tell them what to put as your experience.

I worked for a company and they were really supportive but I got dismissed for ill health and I said I don't want new employers knowing I got dismissed for mental health and they said, we will give you a basic and I haven't been able to get a job so it's in the balance if I get a job I am on the road to recovery but if I don't, CTB is getting nearer.

But check them out thoroughly before parting with cash see if they want a lump sum and then monthly payments.

Good luck

Geo
 
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Beachedwhale

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Mar 3, 2021
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I'm a plumber & heating engineer. People would know in a very short time if I didn't know my job. So references aren't so important.
I've been looking to get into the trades. Unemployed at the moment. Could I be your apprentice?
 
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Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
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I've been looking to get into the trades. Unemployed at the moment. Could I be your apprentice?

Expensive but you can study all the qualifications to be an electrician or plumber but then you need to study the NVQ with on-the-job practical training.


Cheers

Geo
 
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Beachedwhale

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Expensive but you can study all the qualifications to be an electrician or plumber but then you need to study the NVQ with on-the-job practical training.


Cheers

Geo
Issue is getting the practicsl training as you need to do it with a qualified tradesperson and that is hard unless you personally know.someone.
 
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almaranthine

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Nov 28, 2019
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I have references/experience and still can't get a job... but anyways, you can use friends that you've worked with, teachers/professors, it doesn't have to be managers or supervisors from previous jobs.
 
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everydayiloveyou

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Jul 5, 2020
490
I got a tech job with no references or relevant experience. This is easier said than done, but I think what helped me was just being nice and eager. Smile, be an active listener, and be earnest.

I'm a really shy person and come across as weird. But for some reason I seem to come across well in interviews despite that. I think it's because I emphasize that I'm responsible and straight up say that I just need any kind of experience lol. Of course don't beg or overshare, but try to seem interested in learning and staying with the company. This will help you even if you're just trying to score a job at McDonald's. You'd be surprised just how many unreliable and indecisive people there are out there. A company would rather hire a consistent and reliable employee vs. someone who's always late or constantly job-hopping.

On the same note, always *always* ask questions at the end of an interview. Ask about shit that's important to you. If you wanna ask about money or benefits or culture, you can do it discreetly while still coming across as a valuable employee. Asking, "so what kind of opportunities are there for growth?" is the same as asking "do you guys do promotions?" Or asking, "how often do you guys find yourselves with nothing to do? Would I be able to take on more tasks easily?" is like asking "is this job slow and boring? Could I take on more hours if I needed to, or are the hours fixed?" If you ask questions, especially those nitty-gritty details things, you'll seem interested and mature. Remember, the interview is a two-way street! Try to never leave without asking *something*, even if your question is on the cliche side lile
"what's your favorite part about working here?"
 
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Beachedwhale

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I got a tech job with no references or relevant experience. This is easier said than done, but I think what helped me was just being nice and eager. Smile, be an active listener, and be earnest.

I'm a really shy person and come across as weird. But for some reason I seem to come across well in interviews despite that. I think it's because I emphasize that I'm responsible and straight up say that I just need any kind of experience lol. Of course don't beg or overshare, but try to seem interested in learning and staying with the company. This will help you even if you're just trying to score a job at McDonald's. You'd be surprised just how many unreliable and indecisive people there are out there. A company would rather hire a consistent and reliable employee vs. someone who's always late or constantly job-hopping.

On the same note, always *always* ask questions at the end of an interview. Ask about shit that's important to you. If you wanna ask about money or benefits or culture, you can do it discreetly while still coming across as a valuable employee. Asking, "so what kind of opportunities are there for growth?" is the same as asking "do you guys do promotions?" Or asking, "how often do you guys find yourselves with nothing to do? Would I be able to take on more tasks easily?" is like asking "is this job slow and boring? Could I take on more hours if I needed to, or are the hours fixed?" If you ask questions, especially those nitty-gritty details things, you'll seem interested and mature. Remember, the interview is a two-way street! Try to never leave without asking *something*, even if your question is on the cliche side lile
"what's your favorite part about working here?"
Thanks this was helpful. Just curious as to what your job is?
 
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itsallover

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Jun 29, 2018
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I remember a story about a guy who made up references and then answered the calls himself while speaking with a different tone/accent. It depends on the type of job you're getting as if you wanna just get something with the federal minimum then you could really just make those up. My mother owns a construction business so after I got sick I just started to say I worked for my mother's business and it was acceptable as I was even offered better jobs than the ones I applied to on the spot after some good interviews. The key to interviews is just to relax and be yourself while everyone is there trying to bs the hiring representative while in a group or face to face as if they see that you are plainly honest and genuine then they will prefer that more over politically correct BS.
 
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everydayiloveyou

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Jul 5, 2020
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Thanks this was helpful. Just curious as to what your job is?
I've been a cashier for a few years and still work as one. I suck at it though because I'm so shy. I'm going to be starting as a software engineer in a couple weeks.

Also I feel like I should note I'm a below average student, and I went to a low-ranked community college, not a target school. I never did extracurriculars either. My parents have no connections in this country at all. So I really have no draws in my resume lol. I am a minority though.
 
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Beachedwhale

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I've been a cashier for a few years and still work as one. I suck at it though because I'm so shy. I'm going to be starting as a software engineer in a couple weeks.

Also I feel like I should note I'm a below average student, and I went to a low-ranked community college, not a target school. I never did extracurriculars either. My parents have no connections in this country at all. So I really have no draws in my resume lol. I am a minority though.
Congrats! Software engineering is great. How did you get into it?
 
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everydayiloveyou

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Jul 5, 2020
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Congrats! Software engineering is great. How did you get into it?
Thank you! I study computer science in school so getting a relevant job eventually is the natural progression of things. My original dream was to go to art school and become an animator actually, but I chose CS because I felt like it was more secure and suited to me.

It's something you can learn even if you don't go to school for it. Also there's a pretty even mix of personalities in CS, not everyone is overly extroverted like art students are, but there isn't an abundance of reserved introverts either, which is good from a recovery standpoint! You can be comfortable coding in the background of it all, or take on a leadership or sales role where you can deal with people all day. Tons of room for growth and it's pretty fun if you're nerdy and like problem solving.
 
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noaccount

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Oct 26, 2019
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You can have a teacher as a reference! It's better than nothing!

This time of year, construction companies and farms are pretty desperate for labor. Labor Ready can be kind of bottom-barrel but they're a temp agency that might find you work with no experience.
And in the fall/winter holiday season, places like UPS / FedEx need lots of help.

A lot of stores that are going out of business hire people to wave clearance sale signs in front of them, I did that a couple times. Or during tax season, liberty mutual hires people to wave signs in statue-of-liberty costume.

If you've been unemployed for over 6 months, your state's Dept of Labor might sponsor you to do work training - you can ask them about the "workforce innovation fund," if there's something you want to be trained in. Then the trainer can give you a reference.

Work will try to steal yr time and energy a lot, I hope you can take the money and run, and find some peace.
 
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SuicidallyCurious

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Dec 20, 2020
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It's getting harder and harder to avoid 9-5 lifescript for younger generations.
 
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saltshaker

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Jan 29, 2021
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Nope. Hundreds of applications and no responses. I don't even want a job anyway i want to perish.

All a job would get me is invested in this BS, something people can take from me, or coerce me with. Part of me likes having nothing to loose.
 
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