Anyone has any experience with zenes?

[DreamEnd]

I'm talking about protonitazene and isotonitazene. I was wondering about the dosages and route of administration.

 

[oneeyed]

As far as I know, they're as strong and stronger than fentanyl. So as far as dosing goes, even a few milligrams can be lethal. I just need to know where to get some lol.

 

[DreamEnd]

As far as I know, they're as strong and stronger than fentanyl. So as far as dosing goes, even a few milligrams can be lethal. I just need to know where to get some lol.

Do you snort them?

 

[John Ryder]

Not helpful, but yeah I'm right there with you. Trying to learn more on iso, proto, eto/meto. I hear some of these goofy ass rc opioids can take you out in a single rail, no injection required.

 

[DreamEnd]

Not helpful, but yeah I'm right there with you. Trying to learn more on iso, proto, eto/meto. I hear some of these goofy ass rc opioids can take you out in a single rail, no injection required.

Yeah especially if you combine them with benzos

 

[John Ryder]

Yeah especially if you combine them with benzos

Correct. In fact I'd consider the benzo more or less essential. There's also the whole thing with opioid induced vomiting especially with non tolerance. This supposedly occurs even with non oral roa, though in such cases it presumably wouldn't matter

 

[DreamEnd]

Correct. In fact I'd consider the benzo more or less essential. There's also the whole thing with opioid induced vomiting especially with non tolerance. This supposedly occurs even with non oral roa, though in such cases it presumably wouldn't matter

Do you have to take aes before the Zenes ?

 

[John Ryder]

Do you have to take aes before the Zenes ?

If oral I would owing to the high vomit risk, but theoretically it wouldn't be needed if intravenous or insufflation

 

[oneeyed]

Do you snort them?

You can. Basically same as fent. Injection, snort, ingestion (bioavailability is reduced) I have zero experience, it's just from what I read online.