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Endeavour

Mage
Dec 13, 2020
566
I understand what @Endeavour is saying. It is something I still question myself about, I try to stop myself from "making anything out of it." Back in 2018 I excessively used psychedelics for numberous reasons during a 4 month period. During that time there were several synchronicity type events which made me question whether I was going crazy and reality itself. And every now and then since that period synchronicity has sprinkled itself here and there.

These events are real and I consider them to be abnormalities which only happen during very particular times in my life. Due to my mental health and my experiences on psychedelics it makes rational and objective observation on these synchronization events near impossible. So while I do have my beliefs on them I don't take it all to heart.

I would argue that we are special. But this comes from a spiritual belief. Like I believe the meaning of Life is to simply just exist and experience what it is to be alive. There are many quotes which make me feel this way "We are the Universe looking back on itself" "We are the Universe experiencing itself" "The cosmos is within us. We are made of star stuff. We are a way for the Universe to know itself"

This belief need some expanding but I believe that we (conscious beings) are the end result of the Universe. We are it. Why would the Universe be here if there wasn't something meant to experience and observe it?

But the whole special thing is pretty much is the glass half full or half empty debate. It's really about perspective and subjective observations.
All beings are conscious beings - they just concentrate on living while we concentrate on meaningless shite like social media likes, how much money we have, or what car we drive.

We are no more special than an ant or a twig or a stone or a spec of dust.

We simply think we are because we are aware of ourselves, and so we imagine the universe speaks to us because we are the special ones that have a special purpose over all others.

And yet, if this were the case would the world have 60% of mammals being livestock for us to devour, 36% us, and only 4% wild animals - whose habitats we destroy to provide food for the livestock that we are going to eat?

We are simultaneously destroying the world while thinking it's our special dominion because we are spiritually superior to all else, and it's here to provide us and us alone and will do so forever no matter what we do.

The message that the earth and universe is really sending us is - STOP NOW - but we're too pig headed to listen or heed the warnings, because you know, we're special and we can do what we like - God will sort it all out.

Except he won't because he doesn't exist, and then we'll all die. That's where we're headed, make no mistake.
 
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GoneGirl

Student
Dec 15, 2020
125
I've experienced my own situations where I've thought shit, that's synchronicity - but also it could be just a wild coincidence.

The biggest issue I have with synchronicity is it yet again takes the standpoint or viewport that the world, everything in it, and everything that happens revolves around us, because we are special and there is some special purpose to us

That is patently obviously not true. We are suits of meat like all the other suits of meat, there is nothing special about us.

So for the universe to be sending each individual one of us special messages is delusional - we are no more important or special than a mouse or a crow or an ant - do they get special messages too?

No - because their brains are not wired to see patterns like ours are.

I am no more important than any other living thing, a leaf or a nut or a bird or an insect.

I may experience the world in a different way to them, but I am not more special, and the universe is not sending me special messages to tell me this or that, that are important in my social world or my socially driven life, based on the society that we've built.

It's madness to believe otherwise IMHO.

I understand what @Endeavour is saying. It is something I still question myself about, I try to stop myself from "making anything out of it." Back in 2018 I excessively used psychedelics for numberous reasons during a 4 month period. During that time there were several synchronicity type events which made me question whether I was going crazy and reality itself. And every now and then since that period synchronicity has sprinkled itself here and there.

These events are real and I consider them to be abnormalities which only happen during very particular times in my life. Due to my mental health and my experiences on psychedelics it makes rational and objective observation on these synchronization events near impossible. So while I do have my beliefs on them I don't take it all to heart.

I would argue that we are special. But this comes from a spiritual belief. Like I believe the meaning of Life is to simply just exist and experience what it is to be alive. There are many quotes which make me feel this way "We are the Universe looking back on itself" "We are the Universe experiencing itself" "The cosmos is within us. We are made of star stuff. We are a way for the Universe to know itself"

This belief need some expanding but I believe that we (conscious beings) are the end result of the Universe. We are it. Why would the Universe be here if there wasn't something meant to experience and observe it?

But the whole special thing is pretty much is the glass half full or half empty debate. It's really about perspective and subjective observations.

I try to err away from seeing myself as somehow 'special'.. I know too many of these types of people and I don't resonate with them at all.

I do believe there is a being other than us, way more powerful than us that created us. I call that being God (I'm not religious) & I don't subscribe to the idea of there being a man in the sky watching over us. But this was one of the first awakenings I experienced in June.

I also stand firmly by my experiences of synchronicity which for me personally are way too pronounced to be mere coincidences.

I also think its very ego driven of us to think we know absolutes about our own existence. We simply don't. We can theorise and hypothesise but that's it. None of us know for certain WHY we're here, HOW humanity was created or WHAT happens when we die.

I guess bottom line is.. we just don't know and probably will never know. I don't know about you guys but that reality hurts my head as I like to know things. However, I think we need to respect our limits as humans and for me personally come to terms with the fact that I may never truly understand why things have happened in my life or what they mean.
 
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Nexuno

Specialist
Dec 9, 2020
301
"We are the Universe experiencing itself"
Or maybe (without necessarily involving the whole universe) each individual consciousness it's just part of a "wider" (human/animal) consciousness that is experiencing itself (like it or not we are all linked together, we all come from the same "seed" - and when I say "we" it's not necessarily limited to human beings).

If I remember correctly this is what the "collective unconscious" idea is all about; synchronicity provides access to the archetypes (which are located in the collective unconscious and are characterized by being "universal" mental predisposition not grounded in the experience of the single individual) and when this happens we, as single individuals, consciously experience this "meaningful coincidence(s)", without knowing how to interpret them.

In this scenario we are just a big consciousness experiencing/communicating with itself and those "coincidences" are just the manifestation of a wider intelligence trying to preserve itself by recalling its own experiences/memories (located in different persons).

The real problem here is to understand and define "consciousness".
 
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MYTHoLogic

Psychonaut
Dec 14, 2020
37
You're confussing my meaning in what makes conscious beings special into what the the majority of others mean by what makes "us" special.

I should have worded what I said better. But what I meant is conscious beings as a WHOLE. Not just the us or animals on this planet but any which may exist out there. But I do realise the way I worded it made it look as if I was just refencing us (Humans)

We are no more special than an ant or a twig or a stone or a spec of dust.
EXACTLY! Just because we're not more special than those things doesn't make us not special.
 
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Endeavour

Mage
Dec 13, 2020
566
I try to err away from seeing myself as somehow 'special'.. I know too many of these types of people and I don't resonate with them at all.

I do believe there is a being other than us, way more powerful than us that created us. I call that being God (I'm not religious) & I don't subscribe to the idea of there being a man in the sky watching over us. But this was one of the first awakenings I experienced in June.

I also stand firmly by my experiences of synchronicity which for me personally are way too pronounced to be mere coincidences.

I also think its very ego driven of us to think we know absolutes about our own existence. We simply don't. We can theorise and hypothesise but that's it. None of us know for certain WHY we're here, HOW humanity was created or WHAT happens when we die.

I guess bottom line is.. we just don't know and probably will never know. I don't know about you guys but that reality hurts my head as I like to know things. However, I think we need to respect our limits as humans and for me personally come to terms with the fact that I may never truly understand why things have happened in my life or what they mean.
I think you misunderstand me - my point is not being a special person among people, it's that we see ourselves as special life among all all other life.

Not a person who thinks I am more special than other people, but that we think we are more special than a rock or a twig or an ant or a flea - we aren't.

But we imagine we are. To the earth and universe we are just another thing, but we've convinced ourselves that we are above all of those things, and somehow therefore we have a special meaning or a special purpose and so the universe singles us out for special messages based on our lives and our thoughts.

It doesn't, we imagine it.

When we die we go to the same place all others go, whether an insect or bird or animal or tree or plant - we go to noting, apart from the nutrients we provide to the earth.

We are not more special or important than anything else, and if you don't believe that - when all else is gone, so will we be, because without them we can not exist.
You're confussing my meaning in what makes conscious beings special into what the the majority of others mean by what makes "us" special.

I should have worded what I said better. But what I meant is conscious beings as a WHOLE. Not just the us or animals on this planet but any which may exist out there. But I do realise the way I worded it made it look as if I was just refencing us (Humans)


EXACTLY! Just because we're not more special than those things doesn't make us not special.
We're not more special than those things but that doesn't mean we aren't special - so we are special then? We AREN'T special, we are no more important than anything else, if everything is special then everything is normal, and if everything is normal then nothing is special.

You are totally contradicting yourself.

We are no more special than a spec of dust.
 
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GoneGirl

Student
Dec 15, 2020
125
I think you misunderstand me - my point is not being a special person among people, it's that we see ourselves as special life among all all other life.

Not a person who thinks I am more special than other people, but that we think we are more special than a rock or a twig or an ant or a flea - we aren't.

But we imagine we are. To the earth and universe we are just another thing, but we've convinced ourselves that we are above all of those things, and somehow therefore we have a special meaning or a special purpose and so the universe singles us out for special messages based on our lives and our thoughts.

It doesn't, we imagine it.

When we die we go to the same place all others go, whether an insect or bird or animal or tree or plant - we go to noting, apart from the nutrients we provide to the earth.

We are not more special or important than anything else, and if you don't believe that - when all else is gone, so will we be, because without them we can not exist.

I understood what you were saying. You make yourself very clear.

When I referred to the people who see themselves as 'special' I was referring to people who are deeply spiritual who do think that they are in direct communication with the universe.

I'm a vegan so I really do like the fact that you draw parallels to how as a human race we should not abuse our dominion over animals and the planet. But the fact is we do have a certain level of dominion over them. Maybe some people would see this as us being more 'special'. I definitely belive we are more 'advanced' which would give us more rights, responsibility and authority than perhaps a dog or a twig.

Whose to say that humans aren't divinely communicated with in ways animals aren't? The fact is we just don't know.

Just like we don't know what happens when we die. Humans are not even insightful enough to understand what happens when animals die.

I disagree that we are just 'meat suits' however, I may be wrong.

My point is.. we need to make peace with the fact that we don't have the answers & likely never will.
 
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MYTHoLogic

Psychonaut
Dec 14, 2020
37
Or maybe (without necessarily involving the whole universe) each individual consciousness it's just part of a "wider" (human/animal) consciousness that is experiencing itself (like it or not we are all linked together, we all come from the same "seed" - and when I say "we" it's not necessarily limited to human beings).
I experienced this during my first LSD trip. That my current life was apart of a single "tendril" (for a lack of a better word) and in that tendril there were multiple segments which consists of my other (individual consciousness) lifes (Past and future lifes) and that single tendril connects to consciousness as a whole what I interpreted as "Pure consciousness" or whatever consciousness is at its core.

So yeah I do absolutly agree with what you're saying here.
 
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Endeavour

Mage
Dec 13, 2020
566
This is my point, because you can think you equate that to being more important than adog or a twig.

As far as the universe is concerned you are no more or less than either, you simply exist, and before long you will not exist.

And neither will they

You assign a superior value t yourself because you can think. What about a person who has brain damage and who cannot think or look after temselves? Would you think they are less than you? They are after all a Human.

So if you consider you and them to be the same, even though you can think and they cannot, what is the difference between you who can think and a rock that cannot?

In your mind there is a huge difference, to the universe there is no difference, it's one bag of atoms and another bag of atoms, consciousness doesn't make any difference, it's a bag of atoms with a mass, and another, and another, and another.

There is no special meaning to you over a pile of sand ot a lump of soil. Or me or anyone else.
 
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MYTHoLogic

Psychonaut
Dec 14, 2020
37
if everything is special then everything is normal, and if everything is normal then nothing is special.
That's a very black and white way to put it.

I think everything is special because life is a fucking trip dude. The fact that any of this exists is crazy. This is simply coming down to difference of opinions now. And that's okay.
This is my point, because you can think you equate that to being more important than adog or a twig.
If this was aimed at me then you're putting words into my mouth which I never said. idk who this is directed at?
 
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Endeavour

Mage
Dec 13, 2020
566
I've got 3 tons of gold you don't have any so I'm special. Now you and me and everyone else has 3 tons of gold - now were all special, except were not we all have the same so it's normal, so no one is special. In our own isolated world, not knowing that everyone else has 3 tons of gold we might think were special - but clearly were not. Because were all the same. Even the ants and the twigs and oh whatever have 3 tons of gold.

Yet still the universe speaks to me and me alone, because I'm special - because I have 3 tons of gold.
 
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Nexuno

Specialist
Dec 9, 2020
301
That my current life was apart of a single "tendril" (for a lack of a better word) and in that tendril there were multiple segments which consists of my other (individual consciousness) lifes (Past and future lifes) and that single tendril connects to consciousness as a whole what I interpreted as "Pure consciousness" or whatever consciousness is at its core.
This is simply amazing!
 
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MYTHoLogic

Psychonaut
Dec 14, 2020
37
I've got 3 tons of gold you don't have any so I'm special. Now you and me and everyone else has 3 tons of gold - now were all special, except were not we all have the same so it's normal, so no one is special. In our own isolated world, not knowing that everyone else has 3 tons of gold we might think were special - but clearly were not. Because were all the same. Even the ants and the twigs and oh whatever.
You've taken this idea of being special waaaay too far. Everything is special because it EXISTS. Existing is what makes this special.
 
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GoneGirl

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Dec 15, 2020
125
This is my point, because you can think you equate that to being more important than adog or a twig.

As far as the universe is concerned you are no more or less than either, you simply exist, and before long you will not exist.

And neither will they

You assign a superior value t yourself because you can think. What about a person who has brain damage and who cannot think or look after temselves? Would you think they are less than you? They are after all a Human.

So if you consider you and them to be the same, even though you can think and they cannot, what is the difference between you who can think and a rock that cannot?

In your mind there is a huge difference, to the universe there is no difference, it's one bag of atoms and another bag of atoms, consciousness doesn't make any difference, it's a bag of atoms with a mass, and another, and another, and another.

There is no special meaning to you over a pile of sand ot a lump of soil. Or me or anyone else.

You speak in absolute terms. I think whether you are right or wrong. You have to admit (even if only to yourself) that you actually don't know if what you are saying is true or not.

From my standpoint there IS a God & that God communicates with all of us.

The synchronicity I experienced was real & way too intense and intricate to be mere coincidence.

I guess however that we all have a choice in terms of our perspective on the matter which is what @MYTHoLogic stated earlier.
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
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There is no God, the idea of a God is He created us because we are special, and just like Him.

We aren't we are just another lump on this rock floating round in space.

It's madness to believe we are more than the other things that exist, if that were the case we wouldn't need to expand to exist, and we wouldn't be impacting those things.

If those things cease to exist so will we. We cannot exist without them or food or water - we are not like "Him" - "He" doesn't exist.
 
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Nexuno

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Dec 9, 2020
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There is no God, the idea of a God is he created us because we are special.

We aren't we are just another lump on this rock floating round in space.
Maybe this floating rock is God. Maybe we are God. Maybe God is a tangible result of our conscious experience... The chances for God to be real - and for things to be worse than what we used to think - are extremely high. XD
 
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greyhound

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Oct 8, 2020
471
There is no God, the idea of a God is He created us because we are special, and just like Him.

We aren't we are just another lump on this rock floating round in space.

It's madness to believe we are more than the other things that exist, if that were the case we wouldn't need to expand to exist, and we wouldn't be impacting those things.

If those things cease to exist so will we. We cannot exist without them or food or water - we are not like "Him" - "He" doesn't exist.

The certainty of atheists always amuses me. I mean you haven't seen any evidence for God's existence while peering out from a tiny human window of consciousness for a few decades, and are somehow absolutely certain there is no higher force and everything is completely meaningless.
 
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Tintypographer

I am done as of 4-21-2023. Somewhere I am no more
Apr 29, 2020
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I always though it was an album by the police
 
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Maka hiamoe

Member
Dec 10, 2020
99
Stuff like that has happened to me so many times.

I'll have not finished an assignment, then suddenly the teacher is pushing the date back, or cancelling it, or there's a technical difficulty. Or more generally when taking a test and answering pretty randomly and not knowing what I was doing I still managed to pass. Things like that may be the only reason I succeeded in school lol.

In general I experience many events like that, OP. I consider it a sign that the universe is a simulation toying with me. (Jk)
I guess we both used all of our luck early on in life and ran out of it since we ended up on this website :p
 
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Endeavour

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Dec 13, 2020
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The certainty of believers in God always amuses me. Despite no evidence whatsoever for any form of omnipotent deity they insist that there is a super power. looking over us all and communicating with us.

Do you think it communicates with children while they are being raped, or church goers before the roof collapses on top of them killing them all, or with people on airplanes when they fall out of the sky, or with any other person who befall great tragedies?

Why do they experience such Hell on earth if He is looking out for them?

Does He talk to dogs when they get run over by cars, or with ants before they get stood on?

No, just us, just the special ones, and only us who aren't suffering - if we are suffering then we must have done something wrong. Us, we. etc.

Ludicrous.
 
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Nexuno

Specialist
Dec 9, 2020
301
The certainty of believers in God always amuses me. Despite no evidence whatsoever for any form of omnipotent deity they insist that there is a super power. looking over us all and communicating with us.
This is a primitive idea of "god". Who said a god have to communicate, create gardens in the middle of the desert and so on?
 
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greyhound

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Oct 8, 2020
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Ludicrous.

At the end of the day I think we should all just have more humility about the limits of the knowledge we've personally acquired to date. Often it seems like it just takes one powerful experience to completely change someone's perspective:

 
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GoneGirl

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Dec 15, 2020
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The certainty of believers in God always amuses me. Despite no evidence whatsoever for any form of omnipotent deity they insist that there is a super power. looking over us all and communicating with us.

Do you think it communicates with children while they are being raped, or church goers before the roof collapses on top of them killing them all, or with people on airplanes when they fall out of the sky, or with any other person who befall great tragedies?

Why do they experience such Hell on earth if He is looking out for them?

Does He talk to dogs when they get run over by cars, or with ants before they get stood on?

No, just us, just the special ones, and only us who aren't suffering - if we are suffering then we must have done something wrong. Us, we. etc.

Ludicrous.

There are so many ways we could argue about the presence of God however, just to give an alternate view..

Some people find the most comfort in God during the darkest tragedies. We shouldn't ridicule them for their beliefs as sometimes thats the only thing that sees them through.

I don't think God is a man in the sky looking down on us whose job it is to give us everything we want and prevent tragedy. As humans we have to be accountable for our own actions.

I also don't think suffering equates to us being 'bad' people. The world just is & some of us want out.. can't really blame us for wanting an end to suffering (despite suicide commonly creating more suffering).

Oh dear.. now I'm thinking.
 
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Kat!

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Sep 30, 2020
838
I keep seeing the number 556 everywhere and it's kinda annoying.
Happens way too often.
 
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madbananas

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Apr 29, 2020
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ANGEL NUMBER 222​



Number 222 is made up of the attributes of and energies of number 2 appearing tripled, making number 222 a very powerful vibration. Number 222 carries the attributes of the numbers 2 and 22, the Master Builder Number that resonates with ancient wisdom, vision, idealism and transformation. Number 2 lends its influences of faith and trust, encouragement, attainment and success, adaptability, diplomacy and co-operation, duality, service and duty, balance and harmony, selflessness, faith and trust and your Divine life purpose and soul mission. Number 222 has to do with balance, manifesting miracles and new auspicious and timely opportunities.

Angel Number 222 encourages you to take a balanced, harmonious and peaceful stance in all areas of your life. The message is to keep the faith and stand strong in your personal truths.

Angel Number 222 tells you that everything will turn out for the best in the long-term. Do not put your energies into negativity – be aware that all is being working out by spirit for the highest good of all involved.

Angel Number 222 is also reminding you to keep up the good work you are doing, as the evidence of your manifestations are coming to fruition.

Angel Number 222 is a message of faith and trust from your angels. Remember that nothing happens by chance and everything happens for a reason. Maintain a positive attitudeand you will find that everything will have positive results and you will receive abundant blessings in Divine right timing.

ANGEL NUMBER 2222​



Number 2222 is a powerful number that vibrates to all of the attributes of number 2, amplifying and intensified. Number 2resonates with service and duty, balance and harmony, adaptability, diplomacy, co-operation, consideration, receptivity and love, understanding, personal will, the ambition, sensitivity, just and justice, selflessness, sociability and support, attention to detail, decisiveness, intuition, caution, flexibility, grace, devotion, mediation, partnerships and relationships, encouragement, faith and trust and serving and living your Divine life purpose and soul mission.

Angel Number 2222 encourages you to take a balanced, harmonious and peaceful stance in all areas of your life, no matter what the circumstances. Trust that everything will turn out for the highest good of all in the long-term, so do not put your energies into negativities such as fear or worry, but rather, be aware that all is being working out by spirit for the highest good of all involved. With positive affirmations, visualizations and a firm belief in yourself, you will manifestthe best of outcomes in all areas of your life. Maintain your connection to the angels and the Universal Energies, and listen to your intuition and angelic guidance.

Angel Number 2222 reminds you that nothing happens by chance and everything happens for a reason. Maintain a positive attitude and a strong connection with your higher-self and you will find that everything will have positive results and you will receive abundant blessings of many kinds in Divine right timing. Keep up the good work you are doing as the evidence of your manifestations are coming to fruition. Keep the faith and stand strong in your personal truths.

Angel Number 2222 also reminds you that love is the most important thing of all. Loving yourself is the key ingredient for good health and wellbeing, and love of the self, others and of life connects you with the energies and prosperity of the Universal Energies. Self-love brings self-expression and allows for creativity and fulfilment. Love yourself and love your life.

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I use it for my own Angel number interpretation,
It seems more reliable than other sites..
Not sponsored btw, just thought I'd share
Thank you so much! :smiling:
 
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May 13, 2020
398
Just spotted this thread again, and I'd like to update that on the 22nd, I got a call I wasn't expecting from the organisation who helped me get a restraining order against my abuser, offering trauma counselling. It's not a lot, but it could be something and I'm going to see where it goes.
 
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Canon1

Student
Dec 2, 2019
184
I also experienced syncs. Especially on ketamine. You know your consciousness is like a receiver of data and sometimes the data sync. Ancient cultures see this as something good.

There is a book that I am currently reading. The synchronicity key.
 
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Mixo

Blue
Aug 2, 2020
775
I say this with respect and experience but it's more likely survival instinct trying to fight its way into your mind. Which is fine, we all deal with that and it manifests in different ways. I've experienced synchronicity before as well. It feels meaningful but I'd say that life itself is still objectively meaningless.
 
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Weary Soul

Soon I will be free
Nov 13, 2019
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This is the first time I have heard of synchronicity and I am not sure what it exactly means (I did look it up, but I am better able to process meaning through examples).

Just now, at ~4:30 EST, I saw the following 3 threads (snip of the topics shown below). Each of these posts discuss a similar topic: dysphoria.

Is this an example of synchronicity? Granted, this may be an artifact of unknown biases. But I am curious to learn more.

Many thanks,
<3

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