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strawberrydino

strawberrydino

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Sep 17, 2023
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therapist says i have dysthymia.
— holy vent yap below —
consistent mild depression. which i midly think is bullshit and mayeb it it just hormones and im making a mountain out of a molehill. and i hate myself..yada yada. or maybe this is the right diagnosis. i just feel like i have these moments of manic happiness right before i feel like never getting out of my bed again.(i mean dont tell anyone but i havent showered in the last week since i crashed out). i feel like my therapist is just (rightly) tired of my juvenile worries and this is just what fits. i hate myself. and am thinking of quiting therapy cuz despite the self hatred i was doing pretty good at managing myself and not sh-ing(tall bars here). i also really struggle to actually mention serious issues around my therapist because what if she tells my parents. i wish i could just tell her i sh sometimes and how do i not. but i dont think she can perfectly fix that. kms.
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anyways(vent above mb). anyone else have dysthymia, how have you dealt with it? what do i do? im sad(duh).

tldr diagnosis: dysthymia, what to do?
 
dragonofenvy

dragonofenvy

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Oct 8, 2023
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Yes, I was diagnosed with PDD (dysthymia).
i have these moments of manic happiness right before i feel like never getting out of my bed again.
This is somewhat my experience but I very rarely get moments of motivation. What has helped me is medication (Prozac for PDD, and mirtazapine for sleep + weight gain). This helped me be stable. With Prozac I had a moment where I was in crisis since with that particular medication it gets waaaaaaay worse before it gets better but it does get better.
serious issues around my therapist because what if she tells my parents.
They shouldn't mention anything to your parents unless you're an imminent threat to yourself or others. I mean I've just straight up told my providers what my plan was down to the nitty gritty details, told them that I even rehearsed shooting myself, and they didn't send me to the hospital. Mind you, I'm in partial hospitalization, but still. I think the only reason they'd tell your parents anything is if you're a minor, and if you are a minor you really, really shouldn't be on this site.

i wish i could just tell her i sh sometimes and how do i not. but i dont think she can perfectly fix that.
It would be important to tell them this information. I told my psychologist about it as well as staff at PHP. Honestly, I was shocked at how unsurprised they were. They can give you alternatives that work best for you, or if you like I can give some suggestions.

consistent mild depression. which i midly think is bullshit and mayeb it it just hormones and im making a mountain out of a molehill.
Why do you think it's bullshit? You can have PDD and MDD at the same time. I've had clinical levels of depression for 20 years which is why I got my PDD diagnosis, but I also have an MDD diagnosis on top of it. Have you had depression for a long time? Is it relatively consistent, or do you have long periods where you're doing okay before it goes back to misery? Ask your therapist why they think it's PDD. Have them explain what brought them to that conclusion.

If you have any other questions lmk.
 
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bagel12

Student
Jul 7, 2026
120
therapist says i have dysthymia.
— holy vent yap below —
consistent mild depression. which i midly think is bullshit and mayeb it it just hormones and im making a mountain out of a molehill. and i hate myself..yada yada. or maybe this is the right diagnosis. i just feel like i have these moments of manic happiness right before i feel like never getting out of my bed again.(i mean dont tell anyone but i havent showered in the last week since i crashed out). i feel like my therapist is just (rightly) tired of my juvenile worries and this is just what fits. i hate myself. and am thinking of quiting therapy cuz despite the self hatred i was doing pretty good at managing myself and not sh-ing(tall bars here). i also really struggle to actually mention serious issues around my therapist because what if she tells my parents. i wish i could just tell her i sh sometimes and how do i not. but i dont think she can perfectly fix that. kms.
— —
anyways(vent above mb). anyone else have dysthymia, how have you dealt with it? what do i do? im sad(duh).

tldr diagnosis: dysthymia, what to do?
how long are these periods of manic happiness? and have you mentioned them to your therapist? a feeling of happiness or mania followed by a period of depression is not typical for dysthymia, but common in other conditions. your description makes me think more of cyclothymia or bipolar 2 than of dysthymia. also you mentioned hormones, does your mental health have patterns that correlate to your cycle? if so, have you looked into pmdd?

are you on any medication?

assuming you're an adult and assuming your parents don't have legal guardianship over you, your therapist isn't legally permitted to tell your parents about what you discuss in therapy. if your parents do have guardianship over you, it's a good idea to ask your therapist about what things they would need to tell your parents about and what things are kept confidential. you can probably discuss sh with your therapist without being reported. and i would encourage telling them about this. it is very common for therapists' clients to deal with this, and they can usually be helpful. if the harm to yourself is so extreme that you're in danger, they may be required to report.

your therapist probably isn't tired of you, their job is to try to help. but they may not be a good fit for you. you can always ask to see a different therapist if you don't feel like you're making progress with this one. imo this is a better solution than quitting therapy.
 
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strawberrydino

strawberrydino

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Sep 17, 2023
59
Yes, I was diagnosed with PDD (dysthymia).

This is somewhat my experience but I very rarely get moments of motivation. What has helped me is medication (Prozac for PDD, and mirtazapine for sleep + weight gain). This helped me be stable. With Prozac I had a moment where I was in crisis since with that particular medication it gets waaaaaaay worse before it gets better but it does get better.

They shouldn't mention anything to your parents unless you're an imminent threat to yourself or others. I mean I've just straight up told my providers what my plan was down to the nitty gritty details, told them that I even rehearsed shooting myself, and they didn't send me to the hospital. Mind you, I'm in partial hospitalization, but still. I think the only reason they'd tell your parents anything is if you're a minor, and if you are a minor you really, really shouldn't be on this site.


It would be important to tell them this information. I told my psychologist about it as well as staff at PHP. Honestly, I was shocked at how unsurprised they were. They can give you alternatives that work best for you, or if you like I can give some suggestions.


Why do you think it's bullshit? You can have PDD and MDD at the same time. I've had clinical levels of depression for 20 years which is why I got my PDD diagnosis, but I also have an MDD diagnosis on top of it. Have you had depression for a long time? Is it relatively consistent, or do you have long periods where you're doing okay before it goes back to misery? Ask your therapist why they think it's PDD. Have them explain what brought them to that conclusion.

If you have any other questions lmk.
thank you so much. just to clarify im not a minor, im just on my parents insurance.

i m very deeply insecure and adverse to change in routine. i feel like ive settled into a routine with the therapist and i always answer each "anything you want to tell me" question with bs and its fine. and yes its a bad habit. next session i will try to fix.

ig i feel stupid bc i am a young college student whose tuiton my parents pay for who has nothing wrong with their life. my parents arent abusive theres nothing wrong with my past. i just am sad, and am suddenly just motivated before crashing down. deeply im scared that the only answer might be medication. an extra expense to put on my parents who already think why am i going to therapy theres nothing wrong in my life.(actually lowkey my parents thinking theres nothing that wrong might be a key reason why i have the mindset of im not that sad or even depressed). not to demean medication i just would feel so bad if it was the only answer that i had ti take everyday for the rest of my life. and even worse what if the medication doesnt work and it is all in my head.

tldr anxiety abt medication
how long are these periods of manic happiness? and have you mentioned them to your therapist? a feeling of happiness or mania followed by a period of depression is not typical for dysthymia, but common in other conditions. your description makes me think more of cyclothymia or bipolar 2 than of dysthymia. also you mentioned hormones, does your mental health have patterns that correlate to your cycle? if so, have you looked into pmdd?

are you on any medication?

assuming you're an adult and assuming your parents don't have legal guardianship over you, your therapist isn't legally permitted to tell your parents about what you discuss in therapy. if your parents do have guardianship over you, it's a good idea to ask your therapist about what things they would need to tell your parents about and what things are kept confidential. you can probably discuss sh with your therapist without being reported. and i would encourage telling them about this. it is very common for therapists' clients to deal with this, and they can usually be helpful. if the harm to yourself is so extreme that you're in danger, they may be required to report.

your therapist probably isn't tired of you, their job is to try to help. but they may not be a good fit for you. you can always ask to see a different therapist if you don't feel like you're making progress with this one. imo this is a better solution than quitting therapy.
on periods of manic happiness. i think im over exaggerating. i cant tell if its correlation at all but i will be thinking "this is the best day ever" and find everything funny. and then nothing is funny and im crying. ill have great weeks of motivation and finishing all my work and then stop for a week. but i cant tell if these are extreme enough that they necessarily predict my next binge of being a sorry arse and not showering.

no medication

yeah ig i just needed second confirmations on its okay to talk about sh in therapy. bc well ive never told anyone the frequency of it(i mean arm scars r pretty hard to hide) but like more accidental looking marks get passed up.

maybe i will talk to my therapist abt seeing a different therapist, thank you. i keep going to extremes of cutting off all my friends and family(+therapist) when not feeling too good.
 
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bagel12

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thank you so much. just to clarify im not a minor, im just on my parents insurance.

i m very deeply insecure and adverse to change in routine. i feel like ive settled into a routine with the therapist and i always answer each "anything you want to tell me" question with bs and its fine. and yes its a bad habit. next session i will try to fix.

ig i feel stupid bc i am a young college student whose tuiton my parents pay for who has nothing wrong with their life. my parents arent abusive theres nothing wrong with my past. i just am sad, and am suddenly just motivated before crashing down. deeply im scared that the only answer might be medication. an extra expense to put on my parents who already think why am i going to therapy theres nothing wrong in my life.(actually lowkey my parents thinking theres nothing that wrong might be a key reason why i have the mindset of im not that sad or even depressed). not to demean medication i just would feel so bad if it was the only answer that i had ti take everyday for the rest of my life. and even worse what if the medication doesnt work and it is all in my head.

tldr anxiety abt medication

on periods of manic happiness. i think im over exaggerating. i cant tell if its correlation at all but i will be thinking "this is the best day ever" and find everything funny. and then nothing is funny and im crying. ill have great weeks of motivation and finishing all my work and then stop for a week. but i cant tell if these are extreme enough that they necessarily predict my next binge of being a sorry arse and not showering.

no medication

yeah ig i just needed second confirmations on its okay to talk about sh in therapy. bc well ive never told anyone the frequency of it(i mean arm scars r pretty hard to hide) but like more accidental looking marks get passed up.

maybe i will talk to my therapist abt seeing a different therapist, thank you. i keep going to extremes of cutting off all my friends and family(+therapist) when not feeling too good.
i understand how you feel. in many ways i had a good childhood, no obvious reasons for me to struggle. i felt a lot of shame that i struggled so much when there was no big source of hardship or trauma i could blame for my suffering. i felt like i was burdening my parents because they financially supported me. so i stopped going to therapy, stopped taking my meds. looking back, i regret this a lot, it made my mental health worse for years.

here is what i learned about my condition: there is a chemical imbalance in my brain. the chemicals that make other people feel stable and happy and functional, are chemicals my brain doesn't make enough of. so of course i feel like shit all the time, of course it's difficult for me to function. and, my brain literally has a different physical structure compared to healthy people's brains. in people with my condition, the way the different parts of the brain communicate are impaired, and some regions of the brain are physically smaller or larger than healthy people's.

yes, i could try to tough it out and keep suffering. or i could give my brain the chemicals it needs, the chemicals that other people's brains make naturally. taking meds means i only struggle a normal amount, instead of struggling all the time. does this make sense? it is not my fault if my brain doesn't work right, just like it wouldn't be my fault if my kidney didn't work right.

i understand your concern about being on meds for the rest of your life--but you don't have to do that. a lot of people just go on meds for like 6 months or a year. i think it is better to take things a day at a time instead of trying to think many decades into the future. my perspective is, if you are suffering now, and therapy isn't really helping, meds are a good option to consider.

i say this because the manic happiness you describe, followed by depression, sounds similar to what one of my best friends used to experience. it made life very difficult for him. every couple months he'd have this cycle: he would have really productive, creative, happy, energetic, hilarious days, sometimes he would get a little bit out of control and spend lots of money or make impulsive decisions. then he would get deeply depressed and couldn't get out of bed. then he would get a little more functional but still pretty depressed. then he'd feel upbeat again. and then the cycle would repeat.

it turns out that those "best day ever" weeks use up the brain's dopamine and norepinephrine, which are the neurotransmitters that make you feel happy, energetic and motivated. once the brain is depleted of those chemicals, of course he felt like shit and couldn't get out of bed. he talked to a psychiatrist and they put him on a mood stabilizer called lamictal/lamotrigine. after a couple months of being on this medication, he noticed that this cycle wasn't happening anymore. he felt more stable and productive, because he didn't have weeks and weeks of laying in bed.

for him the cycles started out pretty mild, but the highs and lows got more and more intense over time. if your symptoms are causing suffering, it might be worth talking to a mental health professional about cyclothymia or bipolar ii, and maybe consider trying a mood stabilizer. if you don't like it, or if it doesn't help, you can go back off of the med. one thing: people who have these highs and lows should not take ssris. ssris actually make the condition worse, because they can cause more frequent or more severe manic episodes, which deplete the brain of happy chemicals.

about talking about sh in therapy: even though you're on your parents' insurance, since you are a legal adult, your therapist legally can't tell them anything (unless they think you are in life threatening danger). it is common for people to talk to therapists about sh, it is likely that your therapist has had other clients who sh. but if you don't really connect with this therapist, and you don't feel like you're making progress, i would get a new one, especially if you can find a therapist whose specialty aligns with the issues you deal with.

i wish you the best of luck!
 
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