Discussion Anyone else get random “violent” body jerks?

[Deleted member 1465]

I had heart palpitations, head rushes, panic attacks, hypnic jerks lol the lot. I was barely eating, constantly hungry, losing weight...and other...very unsavoury stuff. I'd given up and was dying.
But it doesn't work like that. I struggled back bit by bit, mostly alone, having to bully doctors.
I know it sounds like a cliché, but I think learning to listen, to others and to yourself and your environment is a profoundly helpful skill to try and acquire. Really hard to do though and takes a zen approach to letting go and trying to fit into the natural cycles as best you can.
I'm still fighting that fight bit by bit.

 

[BlackPoppet]

I've had all those things too. Headaches, diarrhoea, nausea, stomach pains as well. Panic attacks, an aversion to bright lights, agoraphobia. A lot more symptoms too.
I too was constantly hungry for carbs. I guess my body needed some energy from something. Other times I wouldn't eat for days.
I guess I've got to try the zen approach. Get my melatonin back on track. I'm scared though.
Ive always wondered if perhaps my cortisol levels were/ are inverted. Have you heard of such a thing?

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Not specifically, no, but I'd be surprised if your cortisol levels weren't chronically raised if you are chronically stressed. I always felt on high alert all the time.
And I was bloody terrified, I confess, I made no effort to adopt a particular approach, my body just took over and did what it needed and I listened to it.

 

[BlackPoppet]

Oh my cortisol levels are through the roof. The cortisol makes me shake it's that bad. I feel on high alert all the time. Unless I'm on Diazepam or CBD oil and even then it's always there. In the background.
What if my mind won't let my body do what it needs to do? I'm literally terrified.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Oh my cortisol levels are through the roof. The cortisol makes me shake it's that bad. I feel on high alert all the time. Unless I'm on Diazepam or CBD oil and even then it's always there. In the background.
What if my mind won't let my body do what it needs to do? I'm literally terrified.

Yeah. Don't know. Unfortunately, we are all different and I can't predict what will happen with you, only give my experience. I would say, that I did nothing suddenly, I just did tiny bits here and there and it was gradual and natural. Im constantly in the odd zone where I push myself a little more, but not so much that I go beyond my limits. That's tough and very individual to each of us.
The principle in itself is very magickal. This is essentially what you are tapping into when you do any ritual. The way things are, flowing with the current.
And yes, with your issues, your mind is fighting you. I can't comment on that because I don't have those issues and can't really understand what it's like, though I try. For me, I trust my intuition and know to try to stfu and listen.

 

[BlackPoppet]

Yes I see what you mean. I just need to go little by little and see what works for me. I just have to give myself time and not put too much pressure on myself. Thank you!
I'll see how I go!

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Yes I see what you mean. I just need to go little by little and see what works for me. I just have to give myself time and not put too much pressure on myself. Thank you!
I'll see how I go!

Yes! That's listening! And listening is never wrong, whatever the context. Don't expect miracles, learn your limits.
I've met one person in my entire life who had the natural skill to listen. She did more for me in the time I knew her than any professional advice ever did.
It changed the way I looked at the world and myself too.
Most of us don't listen, myself included, then we wonder why it all goes wrong. It's such a hard skill to actively learn, but really valuable.

Edit: apologies if we hijacked the thread, maybe shudda gone to PMs.

 

[BlackPoppet]

Yes! That's listening! And listening is never wrong, whatever the context. Don't expect miracles, learn your limits.
I've met one person in my entire life who had the natural skill to listen. She did more for me in the time I knew her than any professional advice ever did.
It changed the way I looked at the world and myself too.
Most of us don't listen, myself included, then we wonder why it all goes wrong. It's such a hard skill to actively learn, but really valuable.

Edit: apologies if we hijacked the thread, maybe shudda gone to PMs.

Don't worry you can PM me if you like.
I don't really have any real life close advisers that I can listen too. Except my counsellor. I guess I've got to teach myself. It's going to be a long hard road.

 

[SuiSqueeze92]

If it happens just as you are falling asleep, then it is likely to be a hypnic, or hypnogogic jerk. This is your body telling you not to go to sleep because you are not safe, you are under threat. It happens when your anxiety level is high, even if it is subconscious anxiety.
The hypnogogic phase of sleep is the liminal period just as you his off and also just before you wake up. It tends to be when you have the most vivid dreams, just before waking, which are actually hallucinations, as you are beginning to be awake.
It's a relict of an evolutionary response. Imagine a tired monkey sitting in a tree, falling asleep, then waking up with a sudden jerk. Is it that feeling?
I got these for a week when my illness first started due to stress. It also came with a heightened stress response, ie. jumping at the slightest noise. And I'd get the spasms whilst awake too.
I first took zopiclone but came off that cuz it's awful stuff. Now I use CBD oil, which I think helps though it may be the placebo effect. It happens much less to me if I'm not so stressed.

Yeah pretty good explanation as I'm a window peeker lol feel like I'm a convict on the run sometimes... for no reason really. It seems to be random at times, fully awake or falling asleep. Or waking up. Eye twitches too during the day where I have to like force my eyelid to stop lol annoying af.

 

[mediocre]

Yes I do they are like weird involuntary muscle twitches. I think it's related to my b12 defiency I have quite a severe case. But idk. It is very uncomfortable and I hate not having complete control of my body

 

[ItsAllTooLate]

What is this from? Is it stress related? I've known a couple of people that get body jerks when they have PTSD flashbacks. I used to be the same way until I processed my trauma and it doesn't give me as much stress anymore.

 

[ForensicallyAware]

I get them now and then
Make me feel like I'm on the verge of a stroke or heart attack
Like a mini seizure or fit