Pure

Pure

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Jun 29, 2021
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Just had an appointment with my doctor today and discussed my suicidal thoughts with her (obs not everything like this forum and sn) and afterwards I felt awful. Made me remember my previous therapists in which I felt awful post session. I feel better posting on here than talking to anyone irl lol

Anyone else in the same position?
 
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Sprite_Geist

Sprite_Geist

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It can be frustrating because most of the time they do not understand.
 
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The Lonely

The Lonely

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Jan 26, 2021
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Here most people won't even CTB! That's why they answer funny and dumb things.

They are just fooling around… Like a sick hobby…
In other times this folks would be playing at a Ouija board(…)

Times passes and people will always be engaging in creepy activities…

Be wise.
 
Celerity

Celerity

shape without form, shade without colour
Jan 24, 2021
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Absolutely. I stopped trying. Waste of time.
 
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Seiba

Seiba

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Jun 13, 2021
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I don't discuss it.
 
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Largeletters

Largeletters

Alone
Jan 21, 2020
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Yep. Especially if I do with it friends. Some are so fucking immature, making jokes about suicide, things like, "I want to unalive myself right now," "Haha not being alive feels pretty good right now." It's not a damn joke. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! With others, I don't bother as much anymore. I'm sure some people in my life think I'm magically better because I don't speak about it anymore. Oh well.
 
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Seiba

Seiba

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Jun 13, 2021
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Yep. Especially if I do with it friends. Some are so fucking immature, making jokes about suicide, things like, "I want to unalive myself right now," "Haha not being alive feels pretty good right now." It's not a damn joke. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! With others, I don't bother as much anymore. I'm sure some people in my life think I'm magically better because I don't speak about it anymore. Oh well.
I think some joking can be okay since it can be a way of coping, but the web has made jokes like that normalized for young adults so I guess most of them are just appropriating in a way.
 
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Largeletters

Largeletters

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Jan 21, 2020
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I think some joking can be okay since it can be a way of coping, but the web has made jokes like that normalized for young adults so I guess most of them are just appropriating in a way.
Coping is one thing but some say things like that for no reason or at the littlest inconvience. Either way, I don't really like hearing it, it makes me feel worse, and pissed off.
 
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Seiba

Seiba

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Jun 13, 2021
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Coping is one thing but some say things like that for no reason or at the littlest inconvience. Either way, I don't really like hearing it, it makes me feel worse, and pissed off.
Yeah, keep in mind I don't really interact with people in the real world so I don't really experience it too much. Sorry if it felt like I invalidated your feelings.
 
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Largeletters

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Jan 21, 2020
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Yeah, keep in mind I don't really interact with people in the real world so I don't really experience it too much. Sorry if it felt like I invalidated your feelings.
No worries, I didn't feel you did. Some people do use it as a way of coping. Some occasions I do smile/laugh anxiously when I talk about my experiences, so I guess there's that, which is a common thing.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

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Yes, very few people understand. I got lucky to find a couple of compassionate friends whom I can speak to online about my problems.

Most people have no experience with what I am dealing with, so the magnitude of my suffering is completely foreign to them. My story usually tends to leave these individuals in a state of shell shock or pure denial.

A lot of the time, they feel pity for me but simply have no meaningful way to articulate it. They are left speechless. This reaction makes me feel miserable, because it demonstrates that I hurt others simply by existing and sharing my reality with them.

Other people do not want to believe how badly I am suffering, and bombard me with the same cookie cutter "advice" I've heard a thousand times. They refuse to accept that my issues don't have glaringly obvious solutions.

They think I am not trying hard enough to seek out support for my conditions, when the fact of the matter is that there is no cure for the physical diseases ravaging my body. Yet, I should just do yoga and try a keto diet, right? Then, all my ached and pains will definitely be alleviated.

All of this talk produces nothing of value or substance. Thus, it tends to make me feel worse.
 
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unperson

unperson

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May 8, 2021
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Yes, very few people understand. I got lucky to find a couple of compassionate friends whom I can speak to online about my problems.

Most people have no experience with what I am dealing with, so the magnitude of my suffering is completely foreign to them. My story usually tends to leave these individuals in a state of shell shock or pure denial.

A lot of the time, they feel pity for me but simply have no meaningful way to articulate it. They are left speechless. This reaction makes me feel miserable, because it demonstrates that I hurt others simply by existing and sharing my reality with them.

Other people do not want to believe how badly I am suffering, and bombard me with the same cookie cutter "advice" I've heard a thousand times. They refuse to accept that my issues don't have glaringly obvious solutions.

They think I am not trying hard enough to seek out support for my conditions, when the fact of the matter is that there is no cure for the physical diseases ravaging my body. Yet, I should just do yoga and try a keto diet, right? Then, all my ached and pains will definitely be alleviated.

All of this talk produces nothing of value or substance. Thus, it tends to make me feel worse.
I don't know what your problems are but can understand the misunderstanding and invalidation and alienation you've described.

basically you just need to do yoga and get some healing crystals and — lol at least we got SS, otherwise I'd be left with talking to cats for comfort. And I don't even have any cats
 
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littlelungs

littlelungs

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Oct 21, 2018
634
Yes. I hate making other people sad because of me, or worried about me. It stresses me out when people IRL are worried about me, and then I always have to reassure them that I'm "okay", because otherwise they'll just get up my ass about it. It gives me a pounding headache and I don't have the energy for any of it.

Also, most of the time people just don't even know what to say, which is completely understandable (I often don't know what to say, either), but then they feel the need to still say something to fill the silence, and then it ends up being something really dumb like, "going for hikes will make you feel better" (I can't do that because I'm chronically ill – people seem to have a REALLY hard time understanding the "chronic" part), or "your trauma is in the past, you just need to rise above and move forward" (because that's totally how PTSD works), or "you should try meditating whilst naked and holding a lavender candle surrounded by a circle of leaves", or some other variation of unsolicited advice or a bullshit platitude I've heard a gazillion times.

Waste of time.
 
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unperson

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May 8, 2021
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Yes. I hate making other people sad because of me, or worried about me. It stresses me out when people IRL are worried about me, and then I always have to reassure them that I'm "okay", because otherwise they'll just get up my ass about it. It gives me a pounding headache and I don't have the energy for any of it.

Also, most of the time people just don't even know what to say, which is completely understandable (I often don't know what to say, either), but then they feel the need to still say something to fill the silence, and then it ends up being something really dumb like, "going for hikes will make you feel better" (I can't do that because I'm chronically ill – people seem to have a REALLY hard time understanding the "chronic" part), or "your trauma is in the past, you just need to rise above and move forward" (because that's totally how PTSD works), or "you should try meditating whilst naked and holding a lavender candle surrounded by a circle of leaves", or some other variation of unsolicited advice or a bullshit platitude I've heard a gazillion times.

Waste of time.
The thing about it being chronic is like so fucked because some people were depressed a couple times and then they got out of it so they think they know all the answers now and if you just listen to them and their impeccable wisdom everything will be fuckin great
 
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SuicidalAgain

SuicidalAgain

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Sep 9, 2020
107
I get what you're all saying completely. You even worded things I felt but never put into words.

I am incredibly dumb for thinking people IRL are capable of helping... It's just that I see them as friends and I don't want to just ctb and leave people saying I didn't try to reach out. But it always turns out to be a huge mistake... I end up exposing myself to someone who doesn't understand and will only judge me for it... Some people mean well with their advice, I know they do, but they still fail to understand how disabling this is.

I get a lot the "seek professional help" one. I tried, they suck so much at dealing with these kinds of issues. I don't have the money to go around looking for "the perfect fit" only to never find them, or think I found them and then they end up not helping.
Sometimes I would leave the therapist's office feeling worse. He once said aggressively and sighing how I would break my mom forever if I did it because he had a patient who lost her son to suicide and she has never been the same. Then even threatened me with "do you want to go back to the hospital? because I can make phone call". Dude, chill, I'm here trying to get help. I'm here talking to you about these issues because they EXIST and cripple me every day and I'm seeking the almighty professional help.
 
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MountKecske

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Jun 4, 2021
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Me too. Because as humans we're wired to think sharing our problems will provide us with solutions, recommendations from the community we're in or individuals we chose to share our problems with. Like all animals do actually. But personal(physical/psychological) don't dissolve magically when shared only our intuition tells us it will help.
 
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ClownMe

ClownMe

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Apr 7, 2021
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Yes, although that could just be because my support network is trash and just dont listen.
 
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unperson

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May 8, 2021
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I get what you're all saying completely. You even worded things I felt but never put into words.

I am incredibly dumb for thinking people IRL are capable of helping... It's just that I see them as friends and I don't want to just ctb and leave people saying I didn't try to reach out. But it always turns out to be a huge mistake... I end up exposing myself to someone who doesn't understand and will only judge me for it... Some people mean well with their advice, I know they do, but they still fail to understand how disabling this is.

I get a lot the "seek professional help" one. I tried, they suck so much at dealing with these kinds of issues. I don't have the money to go around looking for "the perfect fit" only to never find them, or think I found them and then they end up not helping.
Sometimes I would leave the therapist's office feeling worse. He once said aggressively and sighing how I would break my mom forever if I did it because he had a patient who lost her son to suicide and she has never been the same. Then even threatened me with "do you want to go back to the hospital? because I can make phone call". Dude, chill, I'm here trying to get help. I'm here talking to you about these issues because they EXIST and cripple me every day and I'm seeking the almighty professional help.
Ok that therapist was an asshole. Sorry he talked to you that way.
 
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SuicidalAgain

SuicidalAgain

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Sep 9, 2020
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Ok that therapist was an asshole. Sorry he talked to you that way.
He really was. I never set foot in his office after that. He was assigned to me after I left the the mental hospital.
 
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littlelungs

littlelungs

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Oct 21, 2018
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I get what you're all saying completely. You even worded things I felt but never put into words.

I am incredibly dumb for thinking people IRL are capable of helping... It's just that I see them as friends and I don't want to just ctb and leave people saying I didn't try to reach out. But it always turns out to be a huge mistake... I end up exposing myself to someone who doesn't understand and will only judge me for it... Some people mean well with their advice, I know they do, but they still fail to understand how disabling this is.

I get a lot the "seek professional help" one. I tried, they suck so much at dealing with these kinds of issues. I don't have the money to go around looking for "the perfect fit" only to never find them, or think I found them and then they end up not helping.
Sometimes I would leave the therapist's office feeling worse. He once said aggressively and sighing how I would break my mom forever if I did it because he had a patient who lost her son to suicide and she has never been the same. Then even threatened me with "do you want to go back to the hospital? because I can make phone call". Dude, chill, I'm here trying to get help. I'm here talking to you about these issues because they EXIST and cripple me every day and I'm seeking the almighty professional help.
God, that bit about "seek professional help". I hate how this society has such a "one size fits all" mentality when it comes to treating mental illness. It's good to have a general protocol to follow, of course, but the human brain is just so incredibly complicated, and a lot of the time, it's just not as easy to "get help" as a lot of people seem to think... and that's excluding any other barriers that might exist that keep professional help from even being accessible in the first place, be it money, physical barriers, etc.

And not only that, it seems that as soon as an individual doesn't respond to the general protocol in question, they're automatically written off as being "non-compliant" or "not trying hard enough", when that's just not the case at all, and often just leaves the individual feeling even more hopeless/helpless than before, even though it's not their fault that the general treatment protocol didn't work for them. Not everybody responds to psychotherapy, or one specific medication, or finds the crisis hotline useful. Some people do, but lots of people don't, and then a lot of the time, these people are just tossed aside or left to fend for themselves, without any further guidance or resources whatsoever, and often feeling even worse than before.

Just based on my own (unfortunately extensive) experience with the mental health system: I almost became homeless because my then-psychiatrist wouldn't fill out my long-term disability paperwork, because I wasn't in a DBT program... even though they were all expensive (I barely had enough money to live and was over $15,000 in debt), she didn't give me any other resources or even a number to call, and I was physically struggling. I'd also been in a number of DBT programs before that, and they didn't do much for me at all, as much as I wanted them to.

It just all feels like one big, sick joke. I feel so sad for everyone who has tried to get help but been left to rot by this "amazing" professional help that everyone's always throwing around, like it's really that simple.

(I hope this somewhat makes sense. I'm so tired.)
 
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motel rooms

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I've never discussed anything with anyone. Why would I do that to myself? I know that a normie could never say anything remotely helpful to me. Hell, they aren't even able to understand a depressed person, let alone someone who has cPTSD & whose story is so complicated that it sounds made-up. I'd rather be that slightly intimidating hairy bearded guy who looks a bit like an Arab & who says he's gay but is he really because he makes inappropriate jokes about everything & you can never tell if he's fucking with you than that poor suicidal guy. The men I'm into don't want that guy; they don't want me to sing them a Sufjan Stevens song, they want a selfish, rough, possibly Arab pig, so I pretend to be one even though I'd rather just kiss & hold them
 
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BlankUser

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I only feel relief if I discuss it with my boyfriend. But I try not to do that often, because I see how sad he becomes when he hears that I want to ctb and how OCD destroys my life. Talking about it with therapists doesn't help me usually, because I know they don't care. Talking with my relatives seems hopeless, because they force toxic positivity bullshit.
 
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motel rooms

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"going for hikes will make you feel better" (I can't do that because I'm chronically ill – people seem to have a REALLY hard time understanding the "chronic" part), or "your trauma is in the past, you just need to rise above and move forward" (because that's totally how PTSD works), or "you should try meditating whilst naked and holding a lavender candle surrounded by a circle of leaves", or some other variation of unsolicited advice or a bullshit platitude I've heard a gazillion times.
How do you manage not to start screaming at them to get the fuck away from you? I had an interaction with a member who just would not stop spewing insultingly clueless "advice" & I almost ended up doing this -

jack nicholson shut up GIF
 
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Ramirez

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Jun 10, 2019
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How do you manage not to start screaming at them to get the fuck away from you? I had an interaction with a member who just would not stop spewing insultingly clueless "advice" & I almost ended up doing this -

jack nicholson shut up GIF
I'd do that instantly. I had some "friends" talking the typical platitudes in the last months and I would just loose it instantly. Funny enough couple of them changed their mind and said they understood life is not for me :O. Kinda shows they are just hoping to get away with it while not even believing in it themselves.
 
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littlelungs

littlelungs

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Oct 21, 2018
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How do you manage not to start screaming at them to get the fuck away from you? I had an interaction with a member who just would not stop spewing insultingly clueless "advice" & I almost ended up doing this -

jack nicholson shut up GIF
Oh, it's EXTREMELY tempting. I've had to tell a few people to please either stop giving me unsolicited advice or don't bother talking to me at all. It was pissy of me but I just can't deal with that. I've gotta pick my battles carefully and that's just not one of them. I'd rather grow a penis and have a baby through it than waste my time with that.

Also, everything that they suggest or say, like, "Try going for a walk" or "Think positive thoughts" or "What traumatized you isn't happening now, just move forward!" or whatever, like they're giving me some sort of groundbreaking advice, it's just like... do you think I never fucking thought of/tried that, ever? I'm chronically ill, both physically and mentally, traumatized as hell, and been through the ringer in the healthcare system, and just the fact that I woke up this morning makes me want to fling myself into the sun. Like, do you SERIOUSLY THINK that I've not tried everything that I possibly can by this point? I get that the intentions are good, but they just have absolutely no idea what I'm actually up against.

Some people are cool, but unfortunately, most just give me such a splitting headache.
 
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unperson

unperson

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May 8, 2021
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I've never discussed anything with anyone. Why would I do that to myself? I know that a normie could never say anything remotely helpful to me. Hell, they aren't even able to understand a depressed person, let alone someone who has cPTSD & whose story is so complicated that it sounds made-up. I'd rather be that slightly intimidating hairy bearded guy who looks a bit like an Arab & who says he's gay but is he really because he makes inappropriate jokes about everything & you can never tell if he's fucking with you than that poor suicidal guy. The men I'm into don't want that guy; they don't want me to sing them a Sufjan Stevens song, they want a selfish, rough, possibly Arab pig, so I pretend to be one even though I'd rather just kiss & hold them
The idea that you don't look like a carbon copy of the famous person in your avatar is deeply disturbing to me and I demand the gods above transfigure your physical form at once!
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I do not tell anybody how I feel in real life. There is no point as they will not understand and there is nothing they can do to help, it would be pointless. I would rather just keep things to myself. They would just tell me to be more positive and things like that which would make me feel worse than I was originally.
 
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Teepbak

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May 16, 2021
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Just had an appointment with my doctor today and discussed my suicidal thoughts with her (obs not everything like this forum and sn) and afterwards I felt awful. Made me remember my previous therapists in which I felt awful post session. I feel better posting on here than talking to anyone irl lol

Anyone else in the same position?
Bro just being on this forum spirals me into a worse place. I try to stay away from here. My goal of this site is to use it as my final journal of sorts. When I'm gone, this account will remain. I'm not here to try to help other people.
 
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motel rooms

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The idea that you don't look like a carbon copy of the famous person in your avatar is deeply disturbing to me
:haha: I actually look a lot like this, but my neck isn't as nice & thick. Do I scare you or can you tell that my eyes are actually blank with despair?

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